Two Marriages

[SlaveForJah]

Hello Brothers and Sisters, Christian Greetings,

I would like to hear any points of view about the relationship between the Parable of the Marriage Feast given by our Shepherd and the Marriage of The Lamb in Heaven. I will put up the passages containing these two descriptions and ask for any comparisons/contrasts and/or conclusions you have come to. Please use the Bible to support your views and conclusions.




"1 In further reply Jesus again spoke to them with illustrations, saying: 2 "The kingdom of the heavens has become like a man, a king, that made a marriage feast for his son. 3 And he sent forth his slaves to call those invited to the marriage feast, but they were unwilling to come. 4 Again he sent forth other slaves, saying, 'Tell those invited: "Look! I have prepared my dinner, my bulls and fattened animals are slaughtered, and all things are ready. Come to the marriage feast."' 5 But unconcerned they went off, one to his own field, another to his commercial business; 6 but the rest, laying hold of his slaves, treated them insolently and killed them.

7 "But the king grew wrathful, and sent his armies and destroyed those murderers and burned their city. 8 Then he said to his slaves, 'The marriage feast indeed is ready, but those invited were not worthy. 9 Therefore go to the roads leading out of the city, and anyone YOU find invite to the marriage feast.' 10 Accordingly those slaves went out to the roads and gathered together all they found, both wicked and good; and the room for the wedding ceremonies was filled with those reclining at the table.

11 "When the king came in to inspect the guests he caught sight there of a man not clothed with a marriage garment. 12 So he said to him, 'Fellow, how did you get in here not having on a marriage garment?' He was rendered speechless. 13 Then the king said to his servants, 'Bind him hand and foot and throw him out into the darkness outside. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.'

14 "For there are many invited, but few chosen."" - Matthew 22:1-14







"6 And I heard what was as a voice of a great crowd and as a sound of many waters and as a sound of heavy thunders. They said: "Praise Jah, YOU people, because Jehovah our God, the Almighty, has begun to rule as king. 7 Let us rejoice and be overjoyed, and let us give him the glory, because the marriage of the Lamb has arrived and his wife has prepared herself. 8 Yes, it has been granted to her to be arrayed in bright, clean, fine linen, for the fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the holy ones."

9 And he tells me: "Write: Happy are those invited to the evening meal of the Lamb's marriage." Also, he tells me: "These are the true sayings of God." 10 At that I fell down before his feet to worship him. But he tells me: "Be careful! Do not do that! All I am is a fellow slave of you and of your brothers who have the work of witnessing to Jesus. Worship God; for the bearing witness to Jesus is what inspires prophesying."" - Revelation 19:6-10




Agape

SlaveForJah

[SlaveForJah]

I guess I'll start it off.

Could the "uninvited marriage guest" in Jesus' parable be referring to Satan, and his binding and removal from the marriage refer to the ouster of Satan from heaven, resulting in "woe to the earth"?

Perhaps this scripture has some bearing, in its similar language:

"2 And he seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 And he hurled him into the abyss and shut [it] and sealed [it] over him, that he might not mislead the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After these things he must be let loose for a little while." - Revelation 20:2,3

The abyssing would definitely qualify as 'being bound hand and foot and thrown into the darkness outside', would it not? This just seems to be correlated. Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.



Agape

SlaveForJah

[Steadfast]

Dear Brother SFJ,

My 2 cents: :185:

Revelation 2:9 - 'I know your tribulation and poverty--but you are rich--and the blasphemy by those who say they themselves are Jews, and yet they are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.'

Revelation 3:9 - 'Look! I will give those from the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews, and yet they are not but are lying--look! I will make them come and do obeisance before your feet and make them know that I have loved you.'

Love,

Steadfast

[SlaveForJah]

Thank you for your reply, Sister Steadfast.

Are you saying that those who will be thrown out of the marriage feast will be those who are of the "weeds", the pretenders to the throne, the sons of Satan? That would also make sense. But, I'm not sure if that is what you are saying. Thank you for posting those passages. If you could, though, could you possibly provide some commentary? I don't want to misunderstand what your purpose in posting those particular scriptures was.

Thanks again, Sis.


Agape

SlaveForJah

[Jinnvisible]

Revelation 2:9 - 'I know your tribulation and poverty--but you are rich--and the blasphemy by those who say they themselves are Jews, and yet they are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.'

Revelation 3:9 - 'Look! I will give those from the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews, and yet they are not but are lying--look! I will make them come and do obeisance before your feet and make them know that I have loved you.'[/b]

When Jesus walked in his ministry he spoke of those Israelites / Jews who were not really sons of Abraham. He said this not because it was a genetic fact but rather because they didn`t have faith as Jesus did, (who himself was not genetically decended from Abraham through Jospeh`s lineage only Mary`s).


The revelation vision was given to John many years after Rome sacked the temple and Paul had completed his ministry to the Nations, when Israel was no longer God`s covenant nation.

The Jews spoken of in the text are concerning the Jerusalem above. The `Jews` spoken in these texts are false Jews in as much as they are false Sons of God. They are not neccesarily actually Jewish though.

In the same way that the Isralites Jesus dismissed as being heirs of Abraham actually were genetic desendants of Abraham.

Just for the sake of clarification.

[Steadfast]

Dear Brother SFJ,

I am one who doesn't see anything in Revelation fulfilled until the great tribulation breaks out.

The first few chapters in Revelation show Jesus commending and chastising members of the body of Christ. This has been going on since the first century.

In Revelation 7:4, we then read about the final sealing of the 144,000 at the sixth seal, who commence, at that point, to begin the two-witness preaching outlined in Revelation 11.

The words spoken by Jesus at Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 seem to be a warning to the weeds planted in the body of Christ by Satan. He is also comforting the true body of Christ that the weeds will be dealt with and the temple cleansed.

When will it be revealed to the world that the weeds have been cast out? When Jesus comes at the end of the great tribulation, at the seventh trumpet, to claim his bride:

Matthew 24:29, 31 – Immediately after the tribulation of those days….And he (Jesus) will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

1 Corinthians tells us exactly when the elect are resurrected and changed.

1 Corinthians 15:52 – in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Revelation tells us what the last trumpet is....the seventh. These scriptures also tell us when Jesus takes charge of earth's affairs....just before Armageddon.

Revelation 10:7 – but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.

Revelation 11:12 – And they heard a loud voice out of heaven say to them: 'Come on up here.' And they went up into heaven in the cloud and their enemies beheld them.

Revelation 11:15 – The seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: 'The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.'

Revelation 20:6 – Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection; over such the second death has no power, but they shall be the priests of God and of his Christ, and they shall reign with him a thousand years.

Love,

Steadfast

[SlaveForJah]

Dear Brother SFJ,

I am one who doesn't see anything in Revelation fulfilled until the great tribulation breaks out.

The first few chapters in Revelation show Jesus commending and chastising members of the body of Christ. This has been going on since the first century.

In Revelation 7:4, we then read about the final sealing of the 144,000 at the sixth seal, who commence, at that point, to begin the two-witness preaching outlined in Revelation 11.

The words spoken by Jesus at Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 seem to be a warning to the weeds planted in the body of Christ by Satan. He is also comforting the true body of Christ that the weeds will be dealt with and the temple cleansed.

When will it be revealed to the world that the weeds have been cast out? When Jesus comes at the end of the great tribulation, at the seventh trumpet, to claim his bride:

Matthew 24:29, 31 – Immediately after the tribulation of those days….And he (Jesus) will send forth his angels with a great trumpet sound, and they will gather his chosen ones together from the four winds, from one extremity of the heavens to their other extremity.

1 Corinthians tells us exactly when the elect are resurrected and changed.

1 Corinthians 15:52 – in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, during the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Revelation tells us what the last trumpet is....the seventh. These scriptures also tell us when Jesus takes charge of earth's affairs....just before Armageddon.

Revelation 10:7 – but in the days of the sounding of the seventh angel, when he is about to blow his trumpet, the sacred secret of God according to the good news which he declared to his own slaves the prophets is indeed brought to a finish.

Revelation 11:12 – And they heard a loud voice out of heaven say to them: 'Come on up here.' And they went up into heaven in the cloud and their enemies beheld them.

Revelation 11:15 – The seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: 'The kingdom of the world did become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.'

Revelation 20:6 – Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection; over such the second death has no power, but they shall be the priests of God and of his Christ, and they shall reign with him a thousand years.

Love,

Steadfast[/b]

Thank you for your reply, Steadfast.

Those are exactly my thoughts as well. As a matter of fact, it was in the course of a discussion that I had with a friend of mine,on the very topic of "the gathering" of the 144,000, that the issue of the Marriage came up. I postulated that the Great Tribulation comes prior to the 7th trumpet. Then, the 7th trumpet, and the gathering of the Bride, the first resurrection. Upon completion of the Bride, as spoken of in Revelation 19:7,8, the Bride will be presented to the Bridegroom. Michael will then war with the Dragon, and upon his ouster from the Marriage, he will be 'bound hand and foot', thrown into the "darkness outside", outside of the light of Jehovah's glory, and "woe" for the earth will ensue for a "short period of time". Next the King of Kings, Jesus Christ will ride forth with his conquering army and wage war against Satan...Armageddon, the result of which is the imprisonment of Satan for 1000 years. After which he will be released for a "little while" to attempt to mislead those of the earth and wage war against the "holy ones and the beloved city". Then the Adversary will meet his final end, being tossed into the lake of fire, the second death.

At least that is the way I see things happening. I guess my question was really just whether or not Jesus was referring to part of this event in his parable, and whether or not the man who was thrown out of the marriage was Satan, or the weeds?

Thank you Jinn, for your reply as well.


Agape

SlaveForJah

[Steadfast]

Dear SFJ,

The great tribulation begins with the opening of the first seal at Revelation 6. The first six seals stand alone, as no trumpets even begin to sound until the seventh seal opens:

Revelation 8:1-2 – 'And when he opened the seventh seal, a silence occurred in heaven for about half an hour. And I saw the seven angels that stand before God, and seven trumpets were given them.'

Revelation 8:6-7 – 'And the seventh angels with the seven trumpets prepared to blow them. And the first one blew his trumpet.'

This is saying that the great tribulation opens with the white horse rider at the first seal. If you understand that the white horse rider can be two-fold, Jesus comes to judge the temple in his parousia and the counterfeit christ begins ascending to power under Satan's counterfeit kingdom on earth.

Revelation indicates that the timeframe for the entire great tribulation is 3-1/2 years long, as no other timing is given:

Revelation 11:2 – 'But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple [sanctuary] cast it clear out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for forty-two months.'

Revelation 11:3 – 'And I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy a thousand two hundred and sixty days dressed in sackcloth.'

Revelation 12:6 – 'And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and sixty days.'

Revelation 12:14 – 'But the two wings of the great eagle were given the woman, that she might fly to the wilderness to her place; there is where she is fed for a time and times and half a time.'

Revelation 13:5 – 'And a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies was given it, and authority to act forty-two months was given it.'

As a side-note, what does it mean when it says that the courtyard is given to the nations for forty-two months? We can find the answer in Revelation 6:9-11:

'And when he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those slaughtered because of the word of God and because of the witness work that they used to have. And they cried with a loud voice, saying:

"Until when, Sovereign Lord holy and true, are you refraining from judging and avenging our blood upon those who dwell on the earth?"

And a white robe was given to each of them; and they were told to rest a little while longer, until the number was filled also of their fellow slaves and their brothers who were about to be killed as they also had been.'

Once the fellow brothers of Christ are killed, three and a half days later, they are resurrected. They then join the ones who were previously resurrected and all proceed to become the first resurrection together.

Love,

Steadfast

[SlaveForJah]

It's nice to know that we see the same picture from John's Revelation. And thank you for your summation. I get rather wordy and long-winded at times, so I am sure many of those who post, read, and lurk here are appreciative of your detailed, yet succint presentations...I know I do.

Agape

SlaveForJah