The Start Of Aquiring The Number 666?

[Shibboleth]

The book of Revelation tells of a number that man must have in order to buy and sell has often been disputed as being a symbolic number. News reports show that we will now have to have passports in order to get back into the U.S. if you flying to Mexico, Canada and the Caribbean.

Passport Regulations (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TRAVEL/01/23/new.passport.rules.ap/index.html)

This is not a new idea. It has been brought up before. In fact we will need passports by 2008 if we are to travel to Canada (driving). I am in no way implying that this is the 666 number, but it could be a start of something bigger.

regards,

Shibboleth

[Berean]

I would really start worrying when they combine this with RFID implants.

[Nambo]

Hi Shibboleth,
For Jehovah to remove ones name from the book of life for aquiring the mark of the beast, I would think it would have to be some sort of act and deliberate submission or worship in opposition to your faithfullness to Jehovah.

Something like, "Weve ended war and terrorism and religious devisions with our New World Order led by the Messianic Star Child, we will not let anybody spoil this utopia we have created for mankind, so everbody has to be a part of it and to prove it, except the holy mark on your forehead, (maybe a Star of David or something), anybody refusing it will not be a member of our society and will therefore not be able to participate in any of its inferstructure including its monetary system"

So, unless you have to swear some sort of alliegence to Jahbollen when you apply for your new passport, I wouldnt worry to much....yet!

[Jeshurun]

Good point. We can rest assured that there will be nothing unclear about the implications of accepting the mark. But the mark goes hand in hand with "worship", or "wondering admiringly" at the presence of the New World Order. Knowing what we know, we won't be fooled. But not the case for billions of others, unless they find this knowledge before they are faced with the decision. Considering that the vast majority are not even interested in this knowledge right now, I don't expect much to change at that time. But Jehovah has said that a witnessing work will take place during the time of the end, where anyone accepting the mark will have been forewarned.

This is quite an enormous task we are faced with, but Jehovah has a few of his ideas still hidden from us about his plan for the time of the end. One thing for sure is that it will be a spiritual bonanza filled with holy spirit from Jehovah himself.

[Kenneth]

In one of Watchman essay's he discusses the three Hebrew's on the plain of Dura and bowing down to the images.

"Neb·u·chad·nez′zar the king made an image of gold, the height of which was sixty cubits [and] the breadth of which was six cubits. He set it up in the plain of Du′ra in the jurisdictional district of Babylon"

Notice that the image has the number 666. It was either a case of bowing down to the image or death in a fiery furnace. That is what we will be faced with in the end, either mankind will bow to the imaged or face death, one or the other. We have to remember also that the angel saved the three because of their faith.

" If it is to be, our God whom we are serving is able to rescue us. Out of the burning fiery furnace and out of your hand, O king, he will rescue [us]. But if not, let it become known to you, O king, that your gods are not the ones we are serving, and the image of gold that you have set up we will not worship."

It seems that if the good news is has been preached by the angles and people are aware of the situation there will be no excuses, either bow to the image or make a stand for Jehovah. Some may ask if that's the case why bother to sever God at this moment. There are two reasons one out of our love for him now, and the second is because we have loved and served our God in this time of the end it will prove easier of us to keep our integrity when the time comes to prove it. We will have the understanding of the universal sovereignty and the issues involved. So in many respect even though we will have a final test we have all ready made our minds up way ahead of time.


Kenneth

[Shibboleth]

It seems that if the good news is has been preached by the angles and people are aware of the situation there will be no excuses, either bow to the image or make a stand for Jehovah. Some may ask if that's the case why bother to sever God at this moment. There are two reasons one out of our love for him now, and the second is because we have loved and served our God in this time of the end it will prove easier of us to keep our integrity when the time comes to prove it. We will have the understanding of the universal sovereignty and the issues involved. So in many respect even though we will have a final test we have all ready made our minds up way ahead of time.


Kenneth[/b]


I think it is going to be more subtle then that. Which is why we need to keep our mental and spiritual minds continuously trained.

Like I said above I think this is a start of acquiring the mark and not that it is the mark. gaining the mark could be as simple as being a registered voter.

[Kenneth]

gaining the mark could be as simple as being a registered voter.[/b]

Not sure about that I think the issue has to be more clear cut, either you are for Jehovah or Satan. It was clear cut for the three Hebrews, either they bowed to the statue or they were thrown into the furnace, the choice was theirs. At what point individuals receive the mark I'm not sure. It just seems to me that when the good news is preached the sheep and goats will be divided, and each individual will be aware of the stand they made. I just think people will receive the mark due to the fear of man and bow to the eight king. What happened on the plain of Dura is a parallel to the end of this system.


Kenneth

[stayawake]

gaining the mark could be as simple as being a registered voter.[/b]

Not sure about that I think the issue has to be more clear cut, either you are for Jehovah or Satan. It was clear cut for the three Hebrews, either they bowed to the statue or they were thrown into the furnace, the choice was theirs. At what point individuals receive the mark I'm not sure. It just seems to me that when the good news is preached the sheep and goats will be divided, and each individual will be aware of the stand they made. I just think people will receive the mark due to the fear of man and bow to the eight king. What happened on the plain of Dura is a parallel to the end of this system.


Kenneth
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Thats it Ken,
I agree it's going to come down to as one of our songs Sings "To Whom do we belong". Must remember its very hard to see the real thing when a counterfiet is also present. Espicially when both are promising PEACE. Most theologens will be directing their followers to the New World Order, as most are already supporting it.
Our great clue is that it will be the New World Order that will be giving the mark of the beast.#666.( symbolic). We as BS know that the #6 signifies imperfection in the scriptures so 666 would be taken it to the highest degree. So we know where the mark is coming from way in advance
Knowing this will keep us on the WATCH.
This is exactly what we are doing.
love stayawake

[Shibboleth]

gaining the mark could be as simple as being a registered voter.[/b]

Not sure about that I think the issue has to be more clear cut, either you are for Jehovah or Satan. It was clear cut for the three Hebrews, either they bowed to the statue or they were thrown into the furnace, the choice was theirs. At what point individuals receive the mark I'm not sure. It just seems to me that when the good news is preached the sheep and goats will be divided, and each individual will be aware of the stand they made. I just think people will receive the mark due to the fear of man and bow to the eight king. What happened on the plain of Dura is a parallel to the end of this system.


Kenneth
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not saying that being a registered voter is gaining the mark, but it could be that simple. In Germany during WWII if the Witnesses signed a sheet of paper denouncing their faith they could go free. Satan knows our weaknesses he has many many years to fine tune his tactics to make them look so innocent. Where we may be looking for something to stand out he may have already deceived us on such a minor issue that we could overlook it since we are looking for something else.

Just something to think about since it is close and we have to be watchful that we are not deceived.

[stayawake]

IMHO
The thing is that the mark of the beast does not come into play until after the New World Gov is set up, so in reality with only One Goverment, there would be no one to vote for. This will be a Goverment that will be set up with out our say in the matter.

[stayawake]

Another thing like Ken brought out FEAR of man, that is one of Satans weapons. So unless our Faith is based on Loving and want to please Jehovah, and thinking for ourselves , we will cave in.
Each and every one of us will under go the same test. Pro 27:11

[Sketch]

Who says anything has to implanted? love the skin you're in...

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews....=rss&rpc=22 (http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2007-01-26T195830Z_01_N25259138_RTRUKOC_0_US-WORK-SCANNERS.xml&src=rss&rpc=22)

"The use of hand geometry and other biometric data, like facial and iris recognition, is not new -- the University of Georgia pioneered the use of hand geometry when it installed scanners in its student dining hall in 1974.But the planned roll-out of hand geometry scanners in all New York City government agencies has sparked union cries of "geoslavery" and assertions that technology developed for security will be used to track, label and control workforces."