Why Do Victims Get Kicked Out Of The Congregation And Perpetrators Kept In?

[inthebrig]

Dear Watchman, Brothers and Sisters, wherever you may be, can you answer this for me?

Why do the victims get kicked out? we hear about it all the time, and the perpetrators can go on and on and on and on and on and on and do it without stop, because their mates are covering up for them, even the church, and in some cases the children and victims told they are liars, that they are imagining this, this is the classic line used by Peter Solbach of the bethel in Selters.

How cruel to use such terms to victims of such abuse, and certainly not a disposition that reflects the mentality of the christ, but of this Satanic world. And the bible is used as a tool and as weapon to beat and even kill people with, and John MacKenzie and Colin Lang in the North of Scotland, those that love power, glory, eminence, and lording it over others,even to point of breaking up families and being the catalyts for suicide. How is this the mind of christ, when did Jehovah or Christ ever act like these people?

But I have news, the tide is about to change and it is coming shortly, mabye these people can lie, cheat and bully their way in the society so as to cover up what they do, but they cant full jehovah, and will receive their full payment, and what an end it will be when their wings are finally clipped, and they are brought down to earth with a great crash.

There is currently a Police investigation, and I mean big time, involving British National Security....so whos been naughty boys then? we will find out very soon wont we?

Jehovah is real, he sees all things, and he will repay, as he is a God of love and a God of truth, and these people that commit this filth like some that have been mentioned are a real stench in Jehovahs nostrils and they will pay accordingly. Maybe their church covers up their badness, but Jehovah doesnt, and forums like these allow these feelings brothers have about these individuals to be aired, named and shamed ( 2 chronicles 19:10 1 peter 4:17 psalms 1:5 ezekiel 9:6 zecariah 5:1-11)

These people have become too big for their boots and the time is ripe for a deflation in their egoes. :ranting2:

[Gabriel]

inthebrig I havent had the oppertunity to greet you brother! I have enjoyed reading several of your post this morning and im so excited to read more. I hope that Jehovah continues to bless you and keep you safe under his wings. Keep posting brother, and Ill keep Reading!

[inthebrig]

The Police here are working with MI5 in a serious case. They are JWS, but in name only. Keep awake. Keep posted for more revelations, naming and shaming.
yours sincerely
Br Judge Dredd

[Jade]

Greetings Brother, Interesting post... I think we all long for justice for innocent victims, especially children. My heart goes out to them. We'll watch this unfold with interest.

[Shibboleth]

you probably should refrain from using people's names cause it may lead to slander unless it has been reported on in the paper and you have links to the paper or news service so we can read it. but as far as I can tell this is borderline slander and nowadays people sue over stuff like that. If you have solid proof, fine, but leave the names out of it untill you can post actual proof. Right now as far as I am concerned this is hearsay.

[Berean]

you probably should refrain from using people's names cause it may lead to slander unless it has been reported on in the paper and you have links to the paper or news service so we can read it. but as far as I can tell this is borderline slander and nowadays people sue over stuff like that. If you have solid proof, fine, but leave the names out of it untill you can post actual proof. Right now as far as I am concerned this is hearsay.[/b]
I agree, there's no need for throwing around names, unless they have been tried and convicted. If you have a personal conflict with these people, you'd do well to resolve that conflict without resorting to posting their names online in this manner.

[Eli's Foe]

you probably should refrain from using people's names cause it may lead to slander unless it has been reported on in the paper and you have links to the paper or news service so we can read it. but as far as I can tell this is borderline slander and nowadays people sue over stuff like that. If you have solid proof, fine, but leave the names out of it untill you can post actual proof. Right now as far as I am concerned this is hearsay.[/b]

I think you mean libel rather than slander, but the point is that it can only be construed as either if the alllegation is untrue.

Let's see what happens....

EF

[Peter]

Well make an entrance inthebrig and welcome to the forum, talk about a big splash, nothing like a good rant though :ranting2: , nice to have you here.

[inthebrig]

I see you are one of those that cover up for such people. The MI5, Special Branch and the Police, thats all that can be said and its abig operation involving a number of agaencies in Britain and European wide as well as in America. This is the seriousness of it, as well as the sadness of it, predators in the congrgation preying on the most vunerable that are praying in the congregation. Even sending filth out in the post and internet, that reveals not a heart or mind of God or his christ, but an animilistic heart and mind and the society being used as a backdrop to carry out this criminal activity, and using power as elder to do it. And why is child sex abuse an "expression" of Gods love?, and if these people go and tell the police they are kicked out and made to feel dirty and unwanted. the tide is changing brs, the tide is changing and the axe man is coming to chop down those tress and put them in the fire.

[SlaveForJah]

I see you are one of those that cover up for such people. The MI5, SPECIAL BRANCH AND pOLICE ARE INVOLVED, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TERROR TTHREATS. Open your mouth to me again, and there will be more names revealed-got it.[/b]

Wow! How loving and Christlike!...making threats and such. I am sure Jehovah is overjoyed to have YOU carrying his name.

[SlaveForJah]

Original from 9:09

I see you are one of those that cover up for such people. The MI5, SPECIAL BRANCH AND pOLICE ARE INVOLVED, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TERROR TTHREATS. Open your mouth to me again, and there will be more names revealed-got it.[/b]

Hmmm...

New from 10:00

I see you are one of those that cover up for such people. The MI5, Special Branch and the Police, thats all that can be said and its abig operation involving a number of agaencies in Britain and European wide as well as in America. This is the seriousness of it, as well as the sadness of it, predators in the congrgation preying on the most vunerable that are praying in the congregation. Even sending filth out in the post and internet, that reveals not a heart or mind of God or his christ, but an animilistic heart and mind and the society being used as a backdrop to carry out this criminal activity, and using power as elder to do it. And why is child sex abuse an "expression" of Gods love?, and if these people go and tell the police they are kicked out and made to feel dirty and unwanted. the tide is changing brs, the tide is changing and the axe man is coming to chop down those tress and put them in the fire.[/b]

Hmmm...

[Jinnvisible]

Original from 9:09

I see you are one of those that cover up for such people. The MI5, SPECIAL BRANCH AND pOLICE ARE INVOLVED, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TERROR TTHREATS. Open your mouth to me again, and there will be more names revealed-got it.[/b]

Wow, do you mean that if Slave for Jah disagrees with you again you are going to report him to the British secret service ?

I know that your account has been suspended so i can wait for an answer. I see that you have made about 20 posts already inthebrig. Thats alot for a short time. One of the problems with difficult areas such as the abuse of children is that people either entirely shy away from it, or entirely lose thier heads over it. Any way you cut it this is not a very easy problem to deal with.

Is that why you are `inthebrig` ? Because you broke the discussion board speed limit ? It is important to be zealous for justice. Although in discussion we have to be exploritory and you can afford to take your time a bit more. All cases of child molestation are different. In order to gain even a small amount of Justice; some cases may require determination and zeal unaffected by personal feelings and attachments to perpitraitors. Other cases may neccesitate caution and thoughtfullness, in cases of possible false accusation. There has been much mishandling, yet even with good handling mistakes can still be made.

There are no authorities who are free from these kinds of problems. The superior authorities, special branch, MI5 and all the others you mentioned may also have child abuse perpitraitors within thier ranks. Its not an issue that respects instiution or rank.

Anyway I look forward to British millitary intellegence joining the board admin.

[Candace]

Hi inthebrig. I can appreciate the intensity of how you feel about injustices committed by men in positions of authority, especially in regard to innocent victims.

Back to your original question, "Why do the victims get kicked out?" Good question. What are they being kicked out of? The WTBTS, right? They are no longer officially recognized as one of Jehovah's Witnesses if they are announced as being DF'd or DA'd.

So, whose rules did the innocent victims break in order to end up being kicked out of the organization? The WTBTS's rules, right?

While being "kicked out" can be very traumatic for a person, it can also end up being a protection for them. There are positive aspects to appreciate. You're welcome to contact me via pm if you would like to discuss that topic further.

Innocent victims are never disfellowshipped from Jehovah. He is searching for people who want to worship him in spirit and truth. Being a legally recognized member of the WTBTS is not Jehovah's means of salvation, is it? Sincere worshipers of Jehovah have dedicated their life to him, not the WTBTS, haven't they?

We know the day is coming when Jesus will take action and the WTBTS will be dismantled. So while being kicked out of the organization is very traumatic for innocent victims, it can be viewed as a blessing in disguise, don't you think?

I find myself getting very aggravated about continued injustices and the way innocent people are ignored or abused by those who have positions of authority. When you have to live with it day in and day out, and the situation continues getting worse, you get to feeling like a pressure cooker that's about to explode.

My thoughts and prayers are with you brother, as you work your way through this difficult situation.

[panda]

Someone once said to me, that Jehovah brings people in the congregation and so does Satan.

By their fruits you will recongnise them. In the end it is all in Jehovah's hands, and trust that all will be made right, thats his promise, can't trust anyone else's.

[vonstauffenberg]

Josephs brothers sold him into egypt, but jehovah remained with him, and in the end, they came cringing to him. Jehovah knows all hearts and minds, and those that have been hurt. Jesus even spoke of those that have been stumbled, and those doing it, well its better for them if a millstone (muellstein ist das richtig?), were tied around their necks.
Yes, we are at the time of the end and the bible talks of murder and betrayl, but the bible wasnt written for those outside, but those in the congregation, and we can see it how some brs do hate each other and deliver one another up for their selfish self centred dishonest gain.
You were right about satan bringing people into the congregation....the sogennannte (so called..yes?) angel of light.
But, if it were a case of telling the truth and being put out, and keeping quiet and remaining in the congregation, I would rather speak out and die for what is right as opposed to lying and dying for my error in keeping quiet.
You are a good support to those in this room candace.
Moege Jehova bei dir sein, fuer immer und ewig.
ludwig :MSN Vlinder: :liefde020:

[vonstauffenberg]

Ja, du hast recht, vollkommen. Jehova und Satan fuehren die leute ein...es ist ganz traurig wenn leute ausgeschmissen sind und die haben ueberhaupt keine gewaltaten begagnen, abr jehova, er wird es ganz sicher weider richtig herstellen.
Sei Jehova mit dir.

[vonstauffenberg]

Can you write to me candace? I am going back to live in china soon, and will be alone again, but not lonely....jehovah will be there, he is my rock, even if i should live or die, it will be to him.
I love jehovah and need him now very much.
vielen dank
Ludwig

[biblereader]

Sad to say I have seen the inocent and the victoms put out of the congreagtion on several occasions, happened to both my mother and my sister, (they have since come back inspite of the bad treatment) I am aware of several that have been mistreated, here is how I have coped and try to encourage others to cope, it involves drawing very close to Jehovah and adopting his view of time, 6 days ago he created Adam & Eve, the flood was 4 or 5 days ago, Jesus died a terrible death for our sins 2 days ago, 3 hours ago Jehovah and Jesus founded their modern day OR with brother Russell, about 45 minits ago brother knorr died, brother henshell died about 5 minits ago, a few more minits and we will be in the new order.

Break down of a day is 1000 years, 1 hour = apx 41 years so 10 years = apx 15 minits

Now for some scripture that can always help us!

Life in Satans world has been like a very complicated and painful surgery, where by we barly can survive, when we get into the new order, we will be glad we made it (and know that it was Jehovah who sustained us), and will be glad for all who made it, as we know Jehovah will allow only those who are truely repentant over the mistakes they made in this old system, those who were not, wont be around.

Hope all contiue to find the strength to continue in Jehovah and his word.

Later Bruce

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[billy]

Hi inthebrig. I can appreciate the intensity of how you feel about injustices committed by men in positions of authority, especially in regard to innocent victims.

Back to your original question, "Why do the victims get kicked out?" Good question. What are they being kicked out of? The WTBTS, right? They are no longer officially recognized as one of Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses if they are announced as being DF&#39;d or DA&#39;d.

So, whose rules did the innocent victims break in order to end up being kicked out of the organization? The WTBTS&#39;s rules, right?

While being "kicked out" can be very traumatic for a person, it can also end up being a protection for them. There are positive aspects to appreciate. You&#39;re welcome to contact me via pm if you would like to discuss that topic further.

Innocent victims are never disfellowshipped from Jehovah. He is searching for people who want to worship him in spirit and truth. Being a legally recognized member of the WTBTS is not Jehovah&#39;s means of salvation, is it? Sincere worshipers of Jehovah have dedicated their life to him, not the WTBTS, haven&#39;t they?

We know the day is coming when Jesus will take action and the WTBTS will be dismantled. So while being kicked out of the organization is very traumatic for innocent victims, it can be viewed as a blessing in disguise, don&#39;t you think?

I find myself getting very aggravated about continued injustices and the way innocent people are ignored or abused by those who have positions of authority. When you have to live with it day in and day out, and the situation continues getting worse, you get to feeling like a pressure cooker that&#39;s about to explode.

My thoughts and prayers are with you brother, as you work your way through this difficult situation.[/b]


very good answer Candace - the more i stay away from those meetings the more sane, loving, and spiritual i become - praise Jehovah for allowing us to worship him in spirit and truth

[Candace]

very good answer Candace - the more i stay away from those meetings the more sane, loving, and spiritual i become - praise Jehovah for allowing us to worship him in spirit and truth[/b]

Hi Billy,

I was thinking of the scriptures that talk about Jehovah&#39;s sheep being scattered, and how Jehovah will gather them together.

(Jeremiah 23:1-4) . . .“Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasturage!” is the utterance of Jehovah.

2 Therefore this is what Jehovah the God of Israel has said against the shepherds who are shepherding my people: “YOU yourselves have scattered my sheep; and YOU kept dispersing them, and YOU have not turned your attention to them.”

“Here I am turning my attention upon YOU for the badness of YOUR dealings,” is the utterance of Jehovah.

3 “And I myself shall collect together the remnant of my sheep out of all the lands to which I had dispersed them, and I will bring them back to their pasture ground, and they will certainly be fruitful and become many. 4 And I will raise up over them shepherds who will actually shepherd them; and they will be afraid no more, neither will they be struck with any terror, and none will be missing,” is the utterance of Jehovah.

I love that part that says none will be missing. It&#39;s a very comforting thought.

Hugs,
Candace

[EmmaKay]

I was thinking of the scriptures that talk about Jehovah&#39;s sheep being scattered, and how Jehovah will gather them together.

(Jeremiah 23:1-4) . . .“Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasturage!” is the utterance of Jehovah.

2 Therefore this is what Jehovah the God of Israel has said against the shepherds who are shepherding my people: “YOU yourselves have scattered my sheep; and YOU kept dispersing them, and YOU have not turned your attention to them.”

“Here I am turning my attention upon YOU for the badness of YOUR dealings,” is the utterance of Jehovah.

3 “And I myself shall collect together the remnant of my sheep out of all the lands to which I had dispersed them, and I will bring them back to their pasture ground, and they will certainly be fruitful and become many. 4 And I will raise up over them shepherds who will actually shepherd them; and they will be afraid no more, neither will they be struck with any terror, and none will be missing,” is the utterance of Jehovah.

I love that part that says none will be missing. It&#39;s a very comforting thought.

Hugs,
Candace[/b]

heheh....these scriptures always make me cry. Thanks Candace for posting them.

Love,
Emma

[billy]

Thank you Candace for reminding us of Jehovah&#39;s views and intentions towards many of us who are scattered - and like Emma, it made me cry also :bisou:

Biblereader - i just re read your post and really apprecite the scriptures you posted - they are also a good reminder of how justice is abused by this world but wont last forever - thanks be to Jehovah and his Son Jesus Christ :clap:

[bystander]

I think that the GB was caught flat-footed by the trouble that child sexual abuse is causing in the OR. I don&#39;t think they expected it, and therefore did not have a good plan to deal with it. They are playing catch-up. It really is a razor&#39;s edge, trying to protect the victims, the OR, and the innocent until proven guilty perpetrators. Parents will just have to "keep their children close", and watch their association even more vigilantly within the congregations, and perhaps Brothers should avoid being alone with children that are not their own.

[DoubtingThomas]

I fully agree with you bystander. It is sad, that we (especially as brothers) have to be so careful, that we can&#39;t even pickup, or hold, or touch, or put our hands on the shoulder of a small child, because we don&#39;t want to be accused of something so evil as child molestation. The responsibility rest fully on parents to properly protect their children from child predators. That is sad. but it is the reality of the last days of this wicked system.

DT

[EmmaKay]

I fully agree with you bystander. It is sad, that we (especially as brothers) have to be so careful, that we can&#39;t even pickup, or hold, or touch, or put our hands on the shoulder of a small child, because we don&#39;t want to be accused of something so evil as child molestation. The responsibility rest fully on parents to properly protect their children from child predators. That is sad. but it is the reality of the last days of this wicked system.

DT[/b]


I&#39;m sorry...I need to just butt in real quick...

I have never felt uncomfortable by having a Brother touch my shoulder or even a good friendly hug...I think you may be going a tad over board here...There were a few Brother&#39;s in my congregation growing up that did the whole "candy in my pocket" thing...and they were talked to about it. And that was it...end of discussion.
It&#39;s the one&#39;s that continue this behavior and defend this behavior that should have a closer eye kept on them.
And in your statement, it makes me wonder...and have to ask you... Do you think that there are a lot of people that are unjustly accused? I actually believe that&#39;s why I recieved the treatment I did from the Elders in my congregation, because they couldn&#39;t &#39;see&#39; that this wonderful young Brother would do such a thing....makes me want to vomit but it also makes me think a lot of people are that way....because I didn&#39;t think that he was that way...never would have guessed it in a million years.

I can&#39;t really think of ANY woman that I personally know that hasn&#39;t been touched in an inappropriate manner by SOMEONE...whether it be a family member, family friend or someone from their church. It&#39;s really sad, and yes it&#39;s the world we live in. Sickening.

With love,
Emma

[bystander]

And in your statement, it makes me wonder...and have to ask you... Do you think that there are a lot of people that are unjustly accused?[/b]


In my opinion, no. I think that 9 out of 10 accusations are legitimate. But the judicial committees cannot rush to judgement. They have to be sure someone is guilty before they punish him.

[Deborah]

Actually, I can feel for all sides of it.

The men that are not able to pick up a child to hear the giggles, see the light in the eyes, feel the soft skin and even smell the breath or odor(not all of them are good) of a child. Children are fascinating pieces of our creation. If a man appreciates Jehovah&#39;s creation and our brother and sisterhood, there shouldn&#39;t be any worries about adult/child interaction. The fact that a brother can&#39;t make any physical connections can have an effect on a child (even ones that aren&#39;t theirs). For example, one of my sons had baby abandonment issues. He needed endless bucket fulls of attention. I was by myself with three children. This child would have thrived off from brothers picking him up and talking with him (and chasing him). Although some brothers interacted with him, I still felt the interaction was lacking. My fourth child, a daughter is very gregarious and loves attention. Especially, male attention. Big time Daddy&#39;s Girl syndrome. Because of my past experience, I watch men like a hawk. Even my husband is not immune to my scrutiny. I have even made accusations because I am overly sensitive. Almost, like if I scare him he&#39;ll know not to make a false move. (Bad over adjustment, another damaging scar) My daughter is still attracted to guys. I try to find soft ways to correct them. This daughter started having &#39;boyfriends&#39; at the age of three. I need to decode and fill in whatever &#39;need&#39; or &#39;emotional connection&#39;, we are doing better. The point I am trying to express is that men become scared of interactions because some people (and the demons) take advantage of situations and sin. The sin causing endless and probably irreparable damage (in this system). So even good intentions can become bad intentions under our imperfect environment. Satan just gets us everywhere.

As for brothers touching sisters. I&#39;m not a very touchy kind of person. I have way too much baggage floating down the river. On the other side, I sometimes see friends and family&#39;s that embrace, hug and touch. I long for that love and network of interaction.

As for victims taking the brunt of abuse scandals. I would wholeheartedly say, YES! Way too often the blame and burden of proof goes on to the victim. This is a shame. This is not a blyte on just the JW organization, this is a blyte that effects most victims of sexual abuse in the world. Another trap of Satan&#39;s. I have theories about how the demons interact with humans during severe traumatic emotional interactions.

With Christian Love, Deborah

[EmmaKay]

In my opinion, no. I think that 9 out of 10 accusations are legitimate. But the judicial committees cannot rush to judgement. They have to be sure someone is guilty before they punish him.[/b]

I agree with that....100%. I would hate to think of someone being wrongly charged.



I have even made accusations because I am overly sensitive.[/b]

Thanks Deb for your reply....I too have been overly sensitive and I can commiserate with you. Although I&#39;ve never made any accusation, I have felt &#39;sick&#39;....or maybe uncomfortable is a better word. It&#39;s something that I always have to keep in check. I always have to remember what I went through can not make me mistrust every male figure that comes along. Including my Husband, when he playfully tickles my Daughter or even gives her hugs...sometimes I get that &#39;uneasy&#39; feeling. I have to really calm myself down and realize that he&#39;s just being a Dad. And my Dad did those things to me.
It&#39;s amazing to me to realize just how much it effected my life, even though I normally feel alright, it&#39;s just in those moments it all comes crashing into the front of my brain and I have to smack it to the back again.

Love,
Emma

[PRAYSER]

Back in the 70&#39;s and 80&#39;s I used to babysit, played with the childern in the congregation, take groups of children to the movies, museums, playgrounds, Central Park, etc., [all at my own expense]. But after being falsely accused of trying to seduce a teenage girl, [her mother make up this lie, the girl didn&#39;t back it up], you couldn&#39;t pay me enough to talk to let alone touch a child or a teenagers without a room full of people [and hopefully video cameras] present.

Since a friend of a friend a of mine was falsely accused of molesting his girlfriend&#39;s daughter [his girlfriend knew he was cheating
and thought he was going to leave her for the other woman - none of the 3 were Witnesses - and though it took a jury all of 5 minutes to find him not guilty - he had spent weeks in jail] I personally would rather be safe than sorry.

So I avoid the little people.

I once got into a argument with a woman friend regarding a matter that she was personally sensitive toward, she felt insulted by me and retaliated by falsely accusing me a fondling her breats, but she forgot to invent a time and place where I could have done this unobserved and since we had never been alone nobody believed her accusation.

So I haven&#39;t clue as to what % of accusations are true or false.

However this is not the WTS&#39;s problem. The Society&#39;s problem is covering up incidents when the evidence suggest that the accused is actually guilty, or when the guilty party has actually confessed to the deed. This is being done to "avoid bringing reproach on Jehovah&#39;s name", as if they are so stupid as to not know that covering up badness is bringing reproach on Jehovah&#39;s name. Their real motive is that they don&#39;t want their self-righteous pretense that Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses are morally superior to so-called "worldly people" exposed as the lie that it is.

So they are willing to sacrifice Witnesses, especially children and women, [&#39;we must let the show go on&#39;].

Respectfully

DJABRIL

[EmmaKay]

Back in the 70&#39;s and 80&#39;s I used to babysit, played with the childern in the congregation, take groups of children to the movies, museums, playgrounds, Central Park, etc., [all at my own expense]. But after being falsely accused of trying to seduce a teenage girl, [her mother make up this lie, the girl didn&#39;t back it up], you couldn&#39;t pay me enough to talk to let alone touch a child or a teenagers without a room full of people [and hopefully video cameras] present.[/b]

Perhaps an &#39;uneasy&#39; feeling....hang up of her own??


Since a friend of a friend a of mine was falsely accused of molesting his girlfriend&#39;s daughter [his girlfriend knew he was cheating
and thought he was going to leave her for the other woman - none of the 3 were Witnesses - and though it took a jury all of 5 minutes to find him not guilty - he had spent weeks in jail] I personally would rather be safe than sorry.


I once got into a argument with a woman friend regarding a matter that she was personally sensitive toward, she felt insulted by me and retaliated by falsely accusing me a fondling her breats, but she forgot to invent a time and place where I could have done this unobserved and since we had never been alone nobody believed her accusation.[/b]


In both cases, I have no idea why women do that,I have no regard for women that do this. It makes it harder for those that HAVE had it done, get their justice.


However this is not the WTS&#39;s problem. The Society&#39;s problem is covering up incidents when the evidence suggest that the accused is actually guilty, or when the guilty party has actually confessed to the deed. This is being done to "avoid bringing reproach on Jehovah&#39;s name", as if they are so stupid as to not know that covering up badness is bringing reproach on Jehovah&#39;s name. Their real motive is that they don&#39;t want their self-righteous pretense that Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses are morally superior to so-called "worldly people" exposed as the lie that it is.

So they are willing to sacrifice Witnesses, especially children and women, [&#39;we must let the show go on&#39;].[/b]

Yep!



So I avoid the little people.[/b]

That&#39;s very sad and I am very sorry for that. I really wish you felt more comfortable Brother.


Love,
Emma