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Steadfast
05-09-2008, 04:30 PM
Dear Friends,

The following excerpts describe some of the encounters I experience every day in my ministry. I thought you might like a peek at what could be the goal of new age mysticism and the one world religion that will confront us during the great tribulation.

The man who wrote this book said he became a Christian and came out of the new age Christian movement to expose it.

I leave it for you to decide if it has the ring of truth or not.

Love,

Steadfast

Warning: Some of the information contained in this book is taken from channelings and occult sources. There is a big difference between understanding the deep things of Satan and practicing them. If you find this information offensive to you, I suggest you avoid this topic.


<div align="center">Reinventing Jesus Christ</div>
<div align="center">by</div>
<div align="center">Warren Smith</div><div align="center"> </div>

Chapter 1 - Helen Schucman – A Course in Miracles

Chapter 2 - Barbara Marx Hubbard and the Revelation

Chapter 3 - Neale Donald Walsch and Conversations With God

Chapter 4 - Wayne Peterson and Maitreya

Chapter 5 - The Light that was Dark

Chapter 6 - The Global Renaissance Alliance

Chapter 7 - The &#39;New Gospel&#39; Campaign for Peace

Chapter 8 - The Armageddon Alternative

Chapter 9 - The &#39;New Gospel&#39; Doctrine of Separation

Chapter 10 - The Silent Church

Chapter 11 - Final Word

Chapter 12 - Epilog

Steadfast
05-09-2008, 04:33 PM
Exerpts from……

<div align="center">Reinventing Jesus Christ - The New Gospel

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Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. —Jude 3

The apostle Paul went to great lengths to warn the Corinthians not to be deceived by a "Jesus" that wasn&#39;t Jesus Christ the Son of God, a spirit that wasn&#39;t the Holy Spirit and a gospel that was not the true biblical Gospel (2 Corinthians 11:4). Throughout the New Testament, believers are continually warned not to be deceived by spiritual teachings and experiences that are not from God. Jesus Christ specifically warned his disciples that spiritual deception would be a sign of the end (Matthew 24:3–4).

The first century Bereans tested their leaders and tested their teachings as they "searched the scriptures daily" to see "whether those things were so" (Acts 17:11). Apostles, prophets, pastors, and teachers were always subject to God&#39;s holy Word. "New revelation" never nullified nor superseded scripture. The Bereans were not impressed by supernatural power and spiritual experiences that had not been tested by the Word of God. They did not depend on signs and wonders and miracles. They depended on the authority and reliability and trustworthiness of Scripture: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. (2 Timothy 3:16)

Paul taught that if he or anyone else preached any other gospel — "new revelation" or otherwise — that person should be completely disregarded (Galatians 1:8). The Bible warns over and over again that we should not allow ourselves to be influenced or intimidated by teachings that originate not from God but from the spirit world and from the hearts of men. "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils" (1 Timothy 4:1). "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men" (Mark 7:7).

What had been called "new age" is now being presented as "new gospel." These "new gospel" teachings are not new and have actually been around for centuries in one form or another. Whether it was ancient gnosticism, the occultic teachings of Helena Blavatsky (1831–1891) and Alice A. Bailey (1880–1949), or the present day "new gospel" channelings, the bottom line has always been the same — everyone is a part of God.

Reinventing Jesus Christ

According to the "new gospel," Christ is not a person. It is an office. The "new gospel" teaches that while Jesus of Nazareth occupied the office during His active ministry, He no longer holds that same position. Today, the office of "Christ" is occupied by someone else. And this "someone else" is presently in the process of establishing contact with humanity. This "Christ" intimates that he is already in the world awaiting mankind&#39;s call.

"Concerned" that humanity is in peril and facing possible extinction, this "Christ" explains that his "new gospel" will unify the world&#39;s major religions and bring peace to the world. He has communicated these "new gospel" teachings to his designated teachers, who in turn are now conveying these same teachings to the rest of the world.

This "reinvented" Christ of the "new gospel" teaches that all of humanity is the body of Christ. He, as the "Christ," is the head. This "Christ" states humanity&#39;s dilemma is that we have forgotten who we are. We are not "sinners" separate from God. Salvation does not come by grace from accepting Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Rather it is achieved — when we accept ourselves as Christ and when we accept ourselves as God.

The "new gospel" teaches that when humanity collectively accepts and experiences itself as being a part of Christ and a part of God, we not only save ourselves, we save our world. The "Christ" of the "new gospel" warns that the hour is late. Peace must come. He will help. He has a plan. But everyone must play their part.

With "new revelation," often accompanied by direct personal spiritual experience, people are being taught that because they are a part of God they are actually "at one" with God and all creation. This "new gospel" teaches when people have what is described as their "God potential" or "Christ within" supernaturally "activated," they actually experience themselves as a part of the "one body" of God which is all mankind. As these same people unite and join together in remembering and experiencing their "oneness" with God and with each other, they feel they are doing the "work" that is necessary to prepare the way for Christ&#39;s return.

The Need for Discernment

The Bible warns us not to be ignorant of our adversary&#39;s schemes and devices so that we will not fall prey to his deceptive traps ("Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices." 2 Corinthians 2:11). Scripture also tells us that while "it is a shame" we even have to talk about these things, it is important that we expose them and bring them to the light (Ephesians 5:11–13).

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. —Galatians 1:6-7

There is an amazing thing happening in the land. Jesus Christ is being "reinvented" in front of our own eyes and hardly anyone seems to notice or care. "Reinvented" is a term now being popularly used to describe the transformation of something from one form into a thing uniquely different. Best-selling authors David Osborne and Ted Gaebler, in the preface of their book Reinventing Government, state:

"We have chosen an audacious title for this book.... The idea of reinventing government may seem audacious to those who see government as something fixed, something that does not change. But in fact governments constantly change." The authors then proceed to introduce a plan for "reinventing government" which ignores and circumvents the constitutional form of government in America.

In like manner, the architects and promoters of a "new gospel" and new "Christ" are audaciously ignoring God&#39;s Word. They are inventing a "Christ" of antichrist proportions.

Over the last twenty-five years, while traditional Christian believers were sleeping, a vastly underrated adversary has made significant gains in the spiritual marketplace. In a gradual series of well-conceived and perfectly timed moves, this ingenious spiritual being has already introduced himself to the world as "Christ." And his "new gospel" is now accepted by millions of well-intentioned people around the world.

Through his extraordinary use of the mass media, this "Christ" has presented his "new gospel" through a small but powerful network of key people who enthusiastically proclaim his teachings. Convinced their "Christ" is the true Christ, most of those in the network seem to be unaware of his real identity. While the network front line is eagerly mainstreaming his "new gospel," this "Christ" has been able to remain in the background, overseeing his plan to birth a new humanity — a new humanity that will be empowered by his spirit, committed to his teachings, and from which he will one day emerge.

Steadfast
05-09-2008, 04:39 PM
<div align="center">Chapter 1
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<div align="center">Helen Schucman – A Course in Miracles</div>

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils. —1 Timothy 4:1

In 1965 Columbia University Professor of Medical Psychology, Helen Schucman, heard an "inner voice" saying, "This is a course in miracles. Please take notes." Schucman&#39;s initial resistance was overcome when the "inner voice," identifying itself as "Jesus," told her the purpose of the Course A Course in Miracles, ed.]: The world situation is worsening to an alarming degree. People all over the world are being called on to help, and are making their individual contributions as part of an overall prearranged plan. Part of the plan is taking down A Course in Miracles, and I am fulfilling my part in the agreement, as you will fulfill yours. You will be using abilities you developed long ago, and which you are not really ready to use again. Because of the acute emergency, however, the usual slow, evolutionary process is being by-passed in what might best be described as a "celestial speed-up."

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. —Matthew 24:4–5

Baffled by her assignment, but nevertheless obliging, the skeptical Schucman diligently took dictation from this "inner voice." In the seven and a half years of cumulative dictation that became A Course in Miracles, Schucman&#39;s "Jesus" presents a whole new way of looking at the world. Using Christian terminology, sophisticated psychology, and convincing authority, Schucman&#39;s "Jesus" teaches a completely different gospel than the one found in the Bible. His "new gospel" wholly contradicts the Bible&#39;s Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Schucman&#39;s "inner voice," while claiming to be Jesus, actually opposes everything for which the Bible&#39;s Jesus stands. In brief, A Course in Miracles teaches that all is love. And while the Course teaches that the opposite of love is fear, it explains that fear is just an illusion based on wrong thinking. It states that the world we see is merely the projected manifestation of our own illusive, fearful thoughts. As each one of us learns to correct our fearful, wrong thinking, it will change not only how we see the world, but also change the world we see. The purpose of the Course is to facilitate this change in perception. According to the Course, love is all there is. And because God is love, God is therefore in everyone and everything. Because God is sinless, perfect, and "at one" with all creation, then we, as a part of God, are also sinless and perfect in our "oneness" with Him. Man&#39;s only "sin" is in not remembering his own perfect, sinless, divine nature. The only "devil" is our illusion that we are separate from, and not a part of, God. The Course tells its readers that a "sense of separation from God is the only lack you really need correct."

The Course teaches that while "Christ" is in Jesus, so "Christ" is in everyone — and that the "Christ" in everyone is their divine connection with God and with each other. The Course teaches that a "slain Christ has no meaning." It states that wrong thinking has produced the "misperception" that man is a "sinner" and that he needs an external Christ to save him from his "sins." The Course teaches that correcting our "misperceptions" has nothing to do with Jesus&#39; death on the cross. Correction comes from what the Course calls the "Atonement" ("at-one-ment").

This "Atonement," or "atoning," is when each person remembers and affirms and experiences their "oneness" (at-onement) with God and creation. The "Atonement" is the Course&#39;s key to undoing "fear" and dispelling the illusion that man is "separate" from God. The Course stresses that the healing of the world is dependent upon each person&#39;s fulfilling their atonement "function" to teach this "oneness" to the world. When everyone comes to understand that "all is love and all is God" then "inner peace" and world peace will finally happen. Only "fear" and the illusion of "separation" stand in the way of man&#39;s attaining this peace for himself and his world. A Course in Miracles was published in 1975. In 1979 psychiatrist Gerald Jampolsky&#39;s book, Love Is Letting Go of Fear became a powerful testimonial and catalyst for Course sales as it helped introduce Course principles to the popular self-help market.

During the 1980s, the Course gained a grassroots following of dedicated believers who were often mysteriously led to the Course through unusual "meant to be" coincidences and circumstances. It was always assumed that these "meant to be" experiences were divinely inspired. Over time, curiosity and interest in the Course grew and it became a cult classic for those in the spiritual "know." Believed to be modern day revelation, this apparent "gift from God" presented new and seemingly plausible reinterpretations to the teachings of the Bible. Because of the Course, spirituality suddenly seemed to make much more sense to many people. Yet, even as word spread, the Course still remained relatively unknown to the general public.

Mainstreaming "Christ"

That all changed in 1992 when a little known author named Marianne Williamson and her new book, A Return to Love: Reflections on the Principles of A Course in Miracles, were featured on The Oprah Winfrey Show. Praising Williamson&#39;s book about the Course, Oprah told her viewers that she had already purchased a thousand copies of Williamson&#39;s book.

After Oprah&#39;s enthusiastic endorsement, A Return to Love shot to the top of The New York Times bestseller list and stayed there for months. The "Christ" of A Course in Miracles was suddenly out of the closet. He and his "new gospel" had just been mainstreamed into millions of American homes. Thanks to Oprah, Marianne Williamson and the "Christ" of A Course in Miracles now had celebrity status. But during the interview that day, Williamson and Oprah failed to mention that the "Jesus" of the Course is not the same Jesus Christ described in the Bible — and that the teachings of A Course in Miracles actually contradict and oppose the teachings of the Bible.

Over the past decade, Williamson has continued to champion A Course in Miracles in the media and in her public appearances around the country. A more recent book, Healing the Soul of America, has enabled Williamson and the Course to make a subtle transition into the political arena. Hoping to inspire a "new gospel" approach to national and world problems, Williamson, along with best selling Conversations with God author Neale Donald Walsch, co-founded The Global Renaissance Alliance. Many well-known "new gospel" advocates and Course proponents have been recruited to serve in the Alliance. In fact, one of the Alliance board members, in much the same manner as Helen Schucman, says she too received "new revelation" from an "inner voice" claiming to be Christ. That board member&#39;s name is Barbara Marx Hubbard.

(Barbara Marx Hubbard&#39;s husband, L. Ron Hubbard founded Scientology.)

<div align="center">Direct Quotes From The "Jesus" Of The Course</div>
God

There is no separation of God and His creation. (Text, p. 147) God is All in all (pantheism) in a very literal sense. All being is in Him Who is all Being. You are therefore in Him since your being is His. (Text, p. 119)

Man

The recognition of God is the recognition of yourself. (Text, p. 147) When God created you He made you part of Him. (Text, p. 100) Everyone God created is part of you and shares His Glory with you. (Text, p. 174)

Jesus

Is he [Jesus] the Christ? O yes, along with you. His little life on earth was not enough to teach the mighty lesson that he learned for all of you. (Manual, p. 87)

Name of Jesus

The Name of Jesus Christ as such is but a symbol…. It is a symbol that is safely used as a replacement for the many names of all the gods to which you pray. (Manual, p. 58)

Christ

Christ is God&#39;s Son as He created Him. He is the Self we share, uniting us with one another, and with God as well. (Workbook, p. 431)

For Christ takes many forms with different names until their oneness can be recognized. (Manual, p. 88)

Christ is the link that keeps you one with God…. (Workbook, p. 431)

Crucifixion

Do not make the pathetic error of "clinging to the old rugged cross." The only message of the crucifixion is that you can overcome the cross. Until then you are free to crucify yourself as often as you choose. This is not the Gospel I intended to offer you. (Text, p. 52)

The journey to the cross should be the last "useless journey." …If you can accept it as your own last useless journey, you are also free to join my resurrection. Until you do so your life is indeed wasted. (Text, p. 52)

The crucifixion did not establish the Atonement; the resurrection did. Many sincere Christians have misunderstood this. (Text, p. 36)

For the undoing of the crucifixion of God&#39;s Son is the work of the redemption, in which everyone has a part of equal value. (Text, p. 209)

The song of Easter is the glad refrain the Son of God was never crucified. (Text, p. 428)

Oneness

If all His creations are His Sons, every one must be an integral part of the whole Sonship. The Sonship in its oneness transcends the sum of its parts. (Text, p. 33)

We cannot be separated. Whom God has joined cannot be separated, and God has joined all His Sons with Himself. (Text, p. 150)

The oneness of the Creator and the creation is your wholeness, your sanity and your limitless power. (Text, p. 125)

Separation

The mind can make the belief in separation very real and very fearful, and this belief is the "devil." (Text, p. 50)

Atonement ("at-one-ment")

This is not a course in philosophical speculation, nor is it concerned with precise terminology. It is concerned only with Atonement, or the correction of perception. (Manual, p. 77)

By accepting the Atonement for yourself, you are deciding against the belief that you can be alone, thus dispelling the idea of separation and affirming your true identification with the whole Kingdom as literally part of you. (Text, p. 131)

The full awareness of the Atonement, then, is the recognition that the separation never occurred. (Text, p. 98)

Yet you cannot abide in peace unless you accept the Atonement, because the Atonement is the way to peace. (Text, p. 175)

The Atonement is the final lesson he [man] need learn, for it teaches him that, never having sinned, he has no need of salvation. (Text, p. 237)

"Atoning" means "undoing." The undoing of fear is an essential part of the Atonement value of miracles. (Text, p. 5)

Revelation

Revelation unites you directly with God. (Text, p. 7) Revelation induces only experience. (Text, p. 7) When revelation of your oneness comes, it will be known and fully understood. (Workbook, p. 324)

Persecution

You are not persecuted, nor was I. (Text, p. 94)

Sin

There is no sin; it has no consequence. (Workbook, p. 183)

Evil

Innocence is wisdom because it is unaware of evil, and evil does not exist. (Text, p. 38)

Antichrist

All forms of anti-Christ oppose the Christ. (Text, p. 620)

Devil

The "devil" is a frightening concept because he seems to be extremely powerful and extremely active. He is perceived as a force in combat with God, battling Him for possession of His creations. The devil deceives by lies, and builds kingdoms in which everything is in direct opposition to God. Yet he attracts men rather than repels them, and they are willing to "sell" him their souls in return for gifts of no real worth. This makes absolutely no sense. (Text, p. 49–50)

<div align="center">Marianne Williamson</div>
On Popularity of Her Book

For that, my deepest thanks to Oprah Winfrey. Her enthusiasm and generosity have given the book, and me, an audience we would never otherwise have had. (p. ix)

Man

To remember that you are part of God, that you are loved and lovable, is not arrogant. It&#39;s humble. To think you are anything else is arrogant, because it implies you&#39;re something other than a creation of God. (p. 30)

We are holy beings, individual cells in the body of Christ. (p. 32)

We are who God created us to be. We are all one; we are love itself. "Accepting the Christ" is merely a shift in self-perception. (p. 32)

Jesus

Even if he takes an other name, even if he takes another face, He is in essence the truth of who we are. Our joined lives form the mystical body of Christ. (p. 296)

Jesus and other enlightened masters are our evolutionary elder brothers. (p. 42)

Christ-mind

The concept of a divine, or "Christ" mind, is the idea that, at our core, we are not just identical, but actually the same being. "There is only one begotten Son" doesn&#39;t mean that someone else was it, and we&#39;re not. It means we&#39;re all it. There&#39;s only one of us here. (p. 30–31)

You and I have the Christ mind in us as much as Jesus does. (p. 42)

Armageddon

But we can bypass the scenario of a nuclear Armageddon if we so desire. Most of us have already suffered our own personal Armageddons. There&#39;s no need to go through the whole thing again collectively. (p. 82)

Meditation

Meditation is time spent with God in silence and quiet listening. It is the time during which the Holy Spirit has a chance to enter into our minds and perform His divine alchemy. (p. 281)

Steadfast
05-09-2008, 04:47 PM
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<div align="center">Barbara Marx Hubbard and the Revelation</div>
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Miracle Worker

To become a miracle worker means to take part in a spiritual underground that&#39;s revitalizing the world, participating in a revolution of the world&#39;s values at the deepest possible level. That doesn&#39;t mean you announce this to anyone. (p. 68)

For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. —2 Peter 1:16

Self-described futurist and "conscious evolutionist" Barbara Marx Hubbard writes that in 1966 she heard an "inner voice" that came in response to a question she had asked aloud and directed to God — "What is our story? What in our age is comparable to the birth of Christ?" After asking the question she said she fell into a dreamlike state and was given an intense vision of the future. In the vision Hubbard saw the earth from a distance. She was made to understand that the earth was a living body and that she was a cell in its body. Feeling her "oneness" with the earth, she experienced its pain and confusion. When her vision abruptly fast-forwarded into the future, she could see the earth and its people were now surrounded by a radiant light. She watched as the whole planet was "aligned" in "a magnetic field of love" and lifted up by the brilliant light. Widespread healings took place as individuals experienced the merging of their own "inner light" with the bright light that was surrounding them. A tremendous force emanating from the light sent powerful currents of joyful energy "rippling" through the body of humanity. The world celebrated as all the Earth was born again. The pain and confusion were gone. Love had prevailed. The "inner voice" told her to spread the message of the vision.

It said: Our story is a birth. It is the birth of humankind as one body. What Christ and all great beings came to Earth to reveal is true. We are one body, born into this universe. GO TELL THE STORY OF OUR BIRTH…

In 1977 Hubbard began to hear this "inner voice" regularly. At one point she was told: Have utter faith in my design. Achieve deep peace. Be prepared for a great force to enter your life to do this work. It cannot enter till you have achieved deep peace. Your reward for peace, which can only be achieved by faith, is contact with the great force and the other forces waiting in the wings.

On Christmas Day in 1979, she had a revelation that the presence in her 1966 vision had been "Christ." Then in February of 1980, at an Episcopalian monastery in Santa Barbara, California, she describes how in the midst of "an electrifying presence of light" her higher self "voice" transformed into the "Christ voice." Over the coming months the "Christ voice" gave her more information and insight about the vision she had in 1966 and more first-hand detail about what would one day be taking place in the world. Hubbard understood that it was her mission to continue telling the story of humanity&#39;s "birth."

Since 1966 Hubbard has fulfilled her commission from "Christ" to tell his "new gospel" story. From NASA to the former USSR, from the Georgia State Legislature to the United Nations, she has spoken to thousands of people and hundreds of groups and organizations about the "planetary birth experience" she had been shown in her vision. In the process she has become a respected "world citizen," known and loved by many for her insights about "God" and "Christ" and the future of humanity.

Hubbard is a co-founding board member of the World Future Society. In 1976 she seriously contemplated a run for the U.S. presidency. In 1984 her name was placed in nomination for Vice-President at the Democratic National Convention in San Francisco. Her speech, based on her "Campaign for a Positive Future," was carried live on C-Span. Today she is on a first name basis with many world leaders and proudly describes herself as part of "the New Order of the Future." Her last three books were funded by her "benefactor," Laurance S. Rockefeller, through his Fund for the Enhancement of the Human Spirit. She thanks Rockefeller in her books for his generous support over the years. And she specifically thanks him for his "intuition about the &#39;Christ of the 21st Century&#39;."

The Alternative to Armageddon

Through the years Hubbard has received voluminous information from her "Christ." In her 1993 book, The Revelation: Our Crisis Is a Birth (later renamed The Revelation: A Message of Hope for the New Millennium), Hubbard and "Christ" "rewrite" the Bible&#39;s Book of Revelation.

In The Revelation Hubbard&#39;s "Christ" provides specific instructions on how a united humanity, purposefully partnering with God, can literally re-create the future. Hubbard&#39;s Christ teaches that the "violent" Armageddon script described in the Bible does not have to happen, that it is only a "possible" future, emphasizing that a more "positive" future can and will manifest when humanity — without exception — openly declares its "oneness" with him and all creation. This positive scenario and the means to attaining it is called "the alternative to Armageddon."

Hubbard&#39;s "Christ" describes how planet Earth is at an evolutionary crossroads. He states that the world is about to make an evolutionary leap that will take all creation to a new level. Those who awaken to their own divinity, by aligning themselves as one with God and one with each other, will evolve. Those who continue to believe in "fear" and "separation," rather than in "love" and "oneness," will not evolve. Hubbard&#39;s "Christ" claims that with his help most of mankind will choose to evolve, calling this evolutionary leap "the Planetary Birth Experience."

He refers to it as the coming time of "Planetary Pentecost." The "birth experience" is a shared event in the future, an "Instant of Co-operation," when everyone on the planet will be mysteriously changed in "the twinkling of an eye," as humanity is collectively born again into a new creation. Those who evolve will actually become a new species as Homo sapiens is collectively transformed into Homo universalis, or the "Universal Humanity."

The "Universal Humanity" will live together as a community of "natural Christs" in the "New Heaven" on the "New Earth" that is the "New Jerusalem."

The "Selection Process"

But Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," while describing the "birth experience" and affirming his love for all mankind, nevertheless warns that there will be no place in the "New Jerusalem" for those who refuse to see themselves and others as a part of God. He describes, therefore, the necessity of a "selection process" that will select out resistant individuals who "choose" not to evolve. This "selection process" is a "purification" that will be accomplished through "the shock of a fire."

"Christ" states that those who see themselves as "separate" and not divine hinder humanity&#39;s ability to spiritually evolve. Those who deny their own "divinity" are "cancer cells" in the body of God.

"Christ" warns that a healthy body must have no cancer cells. Cancer cells must be healed or completely removed from the body. He describes the means of removal as the "selection process." The "selection process" results in the deaths of those who refuse to see themselves as a part of God. After the "selection process" the spirit bodies of the departed individuals will continue to be "purified" in the spirit realm.

Hubbard&#39;s "Christ" emphasizes that they will not be given another physical body and they will not be able to rejoin humanity until they rid themselves of all "self-centeredness." He defines "self-centeredness" as "the illusion" that one is "separate" from God. The self-centered temptation to see oneself as "separate," and not as a part of God, is "evil" and must be "overcome." He also refers to self-centeredness, or this illusion of separateness, as "Satan."

In the future described by Hubbard&#39;s "Christ" anyone who refuses to see themselves and others as "God" and "Christ" will be removed by the "selection process." Those professing Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour would be subject to this process, as would traditional Jews, Muslims and all others who refuse to see themselves as a part of God.

The Global Renaissance Alliance

Barbara Marx Hubbard, politically well-connected and extremely influential, is a major figure in the emerging field of "new gospel" politics. Her "Campaign for a Positive Future" is still going strong. And her formal involvement with Marianne Williamson, Neale Donald Walsch and other "new gospel" leaders in The Global Renaissance Alliance represents a new kind of spiritual activism that is rapidly developing into a social and political movement.

Hubbard&#39;s continued political ambitionare possibly evidenced in an article she wrote in a recently published book entitled Imagine: What America Could Be in the 21st Century. In the article, a woman very close to her own description becomes President of the United States after a successful campaign for a "positive future." Her character&#39;s campaign embraces the slogan "Resolve to Evolve — The Only Solution is Our Evolution." This president is unique in that she is the lead person in a first time ever team presidency.

Hubbard, through her writings and lifelong spiritual and political lobbying, continues to implement the teachings and principles she received from her "Christ." She is presently dedicated to the process of incorporating these "new gospel" teachings into her own local community of Santa Barbara, California. With high hopes that her Santa Barbara "seed group" will become a working model for other communities around the world, Hubbard will no doubt be looking for opportunities to showcase her project.

The fact that Oprah Winfrey recently bought a home in the Santa Barbara area should definitely increase Hubbard&#39;s chances of getting some exposure. In a "new age" world that says "there are no coincidences" it is interesting to note that Marianne Williamson, Oprah Winfrey and Barbara Marx Hubbard now all have houses just minutes from each other in the Santa Barbara area. If Oprah does for Hubbard what she did for Williamson, we will all be hearing a lot more about Barbara Marx Hubbard, her Santa Barbara "seed group" and the "new gospel" plans her "Christ" has for this world.

<div align="center">Direct Quotes From Hubbard&#39;s Christ in The Revelation</div>
Purpose of "New Revelation"

Behold, I am writing anew, through scribes on Earth who are willing to listen to me again with new ears, in the light of the present crises on planet Earth. (p. 265)

You must demonstrate the psychological state of universal consciousness as a new norm. That is the first purpose of your writings. (p. 74)

The second purpose of these writings is to call for the completion of the good news concerning the transformation of the world. (p. 74)

The alternative to Armageddon is open to you. This is why we are writing this text. (p. 264)

Resurrection

The resurrection was a future forecast of an approaching new norm. The transformation of Homo sapiens to Homo universalis is the acting out of that forecast by the human species. What I did alone, now all can do who choose to love God above all else and their neighbor as themselves. (p. 65)

I did not suffer on the cross and rise again on the third day to show you what I could do, but what you can do. Yours is the power. Yours is the glory. That is my message to you! (p. 100)

Christ

You were born to be me. You were born to be partners with God. (p. 148)

The church is the body of believers who are conscious of being me. (p. 102)

Sin

My beloved church misunderstood me. It preached the corruptibility of humanity when I came to demonstrate its potential for incorruptibility. It propounded the sinfulness of humanity when I suffered to reveal your godliness and to overcome your guilt by demonstrating that you can totally rise above the death of the body. (p. 231)

Return of Christ

I cannot "return" until enough of you are attracted and linked. (p. 66)

I cannot come to you unless you grow up to be my equal. (p. 75)

Man

I did not intend for you to deify me, but to deify yourselves as being at the same stage of evolution as I am. (p. 231)

You all have the same master from within. That master is me, your higher self, the Christ within each of you who is, right now, hearing the same voice, seeing the same vision of the future, despite all differences of language and culture. (p. 243)

The "living fountains of waters," the source of ever-evolving life in each of you, is waiting to be turned on. It is the mechanism for rejuvenation and renewal. (p. 151)

Satan

The fallen angel is that impulse in your being that urges you to believe only what your creature senses tell you: that you are separate from God and you will surely die. (p. 188)

Your triumph over Satan, that is, over the illusion of separation, will be a victory for the universal community. (p. 193)

Aliens

Do not fear "aliens." You have learned on Earth, after much suffering, that there are no "foreign" nations because there are no foreigners….You are living within one body. You are all members of one body. (p. 275)

You should know now that there are no aliens in the universe. They are Sons and Daughters of God at various stages of evolution. Yes, they are different — diverse beyond your present capacity to imagine — but they are not alien. (p. 275)

Evolution

Your unfinished species is ready to evolve. The time has come on Earth for this quantum change to occur in many of you. (p. 65)

You shall be enabled by the process of evolution to transcend your own limits. You cannot do it by human will and desire alone. You are to be empowered by the force that creates the universe. (p. 94)

Israel

Israel is the idea of humanity and God as One. It is the idea of the transformation of this world to a New Earth. It is the idea of the transformation of this body to a new body. It is the idea of the selection of the God-centered from the self-centered. It is the idea of the evolution of humanity from Adam of the living soul to Adam of the life-giving Spirit, from Homo sapiens to Homo universalis. (p. 192)

New Jerusalem

The New Jerusalem is the new city which emerges naturally from a New Heaven and a New Earth. It is the human community as a collectivity of natural Christs. (p. 258)

In the New Jerusalem, humanity and God are one. (p. 286)

*According to Hubbard, these transmissions come from "Christ" and "higher voices."

Dearly beloved, I approached the crucifixion far more easily than I approach the selection. The crucifixion was done unto my body. The selection will be done unto yours. (p. 197)

The decisive moment of selection has almost come. The judgment of the quick and the dead is about to be made. The end of this phase of evolution is nearly complete. (p. 189)

By your acts you shall be judged as to whether you can evolve, or must be "cast into the lake of fire," which is the second death. (p. 254)

The "second death" is for those of you who cannot evolve by choice, due to some deeply seated error in your understanding of the nature of reality. (p. 267) It is to open your mind that you will undergo the second death. (p. 267)

…[T]he fundamental regression is self-centeredness, or the illusion that you are separate from God. I "make war" on self-centeredness. It shall surely be overcome. The child must become the adult. Human must become Divine. That is the law. (p. 233)

At the co-creative stage of evolution, one self-centered soul is like a lethal cancer cell in a body: deadly to itself and to the whole. (p. 255)

The surgeon dare leave no cancer in the body when he closes up the wound after a delicate operation. We dare leave no self-centeredness on Earth after the selection process. For when we complete the process of the transformation, all who live on will be empowered to be godlike. (p. 240)

The selection process will exclude all who are exclusive. The selection process assures that only the loving will evolve to the stage of co-creator. (p. 303)

After the selection process, you will be born to the next stage of evolution. There will be a New Heaven, a New Earth, a new body and a new consciousness for all who survive. (p. 261)

Your triumph over Satan, that is, over the illusion of separation, will be a victory for the universal community. (p. 193)

If you do not choose to have a new body to co-create with me, you will not have one. You may choose an impersonal future rather than the transpersonal future. The impersonal future is bodiless. You divest yourself of your personal memory and your DNA, and become an undifferentiated aspect of God. (p. 196)

Cynics, disbelievers, those who fear and cannot love: know that the mercy of God almighty is with you now. The second death, for you, is a purification; an erasing of the memory of fear, through the shock of a fire. It will burn out the imprint upon your soul that is blocking you from seeing the glory, which shall be revealed in you. (p. 267)

Those who are not sufficiently educated to align with the design, experience God&#39;s purification process as long as necessary, until they learn how to know God or the Intention of Creation experientially. They cannot return to the new Earth or the new Heaven, in a self-centered state. (p. 255)

Remember, Satan is either consumed by fire or by love. In the New Jerusalem, there is no illusion of separation. (p. 297)

The end is near. The old play is almost over. Suffice it to say, that if you do not choose to evolve into a wholesome, co-creative human, then you shall not. (p. 195)

The only punishment is your self-exclusion from the joy of new life. The only pity is that you are missing the mark and choosing to die unfulfilled. (p. 195)

There need be no greater punishment. There need be no threats. There is only choice. That is the purpose of freedom. Only those who choose to evolve, do. Henceforth, the choice is yours. (p. 195)

The stakes are high, dearly beloved. Choose well. (p. 290)

Candace
05-09-2008, 04:53 PM
e-Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses > Focus on Prophecy as Jehovah&#39;s People > How Jehovah Teaches Us

How Jehovah Teaches Us

Discussions surrounding Jehovah&#39;s use of types and anti-types to help us to understand his arrangement, his Purpose, and the new system that will be ushered in through Christ&#39;s kingdom.

Steadfast
05-09-2008, 04:56 PM
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<div align="center">Neal Donald Walsch and Conversations With God</div>

In 1992 Neale Donald Walsch, a disillusioned and distraught former radio talk show host, public relations professional, and longtime metaphysical seeker, sat down one night and wrote God an angry letter. He was amazed when "God" immediately answered his letter by speaking to him through an inner voice. That night, and in subsequent conversations, Walsch wrote down all of the dictated answers to his questions. The dictation continued for several years.

Walsch&#39;s Conversations with God: Book 1 was published in 1995 and became the first in a series of bestselling Conversations with God books. It seemed that in Walsch "God" had found yet another willing channel for his "new gospel" teachings. In a style reminiscent of John Denver and George Burns in the movie Oh, God!, Walsch and "God" present a more "down home" version of the same "new gospel" teachings that were conveyed through previous "inner voice" dictation to Schucman and Hubbard.

With Walsch playing the role of devil&#39;s advocate, "God" cleverly plays off of Walsch&#39;s leading questions and comments. Walsch and "God" come across during these conversations as a couple of "everyday Joe&#39;s" who systematically dismantle traditional Christianity with their straight-from-the-source, "spiritually correct" teachings.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. —2 Timothy 4:3–4

With the assurance of two foxes now in control of the hen house, they emphatically assert that the "new gospel" is from God and that the "old gospel" is not. Delighted by the fact that they are being taken seriously by millions of readers, "God" and Walsch appear to thoroughly enjoy their process of bringing the public up to spiritual speed. Continuing to build upon the foundation of "new gospel" teachings already introduced through Schucman, Hubbard, and others, "God" and Walsch add some special twists of their own to the "new gospel" story. Using Walsch as the straight man, "God" introduces many of his more extreme teachings with smug, authoritative statements such as: "There are no such things as the Ten Commandments." "So who said Jesus was perfect?" and "Hitler went to heaven."

Glorification of Death

Walsch&#39;s "God" makes a number of other provocative statements about Hitler. The net effect is a minimization of Hitler&#39;s actions and an obvious glorification of death. The following are two of "God&#39;s" comments about Hitler and death: So the first thing you have to understand— as I&#39;ve already explained to you — is that Hitler didn&#39;t hurt anyone. In a sense, he didn&#39;t inflict suffering, he ended it.

I tell you this, at the moment of your death you will realize the greatest freedom, the greatest peace, the greatest joy, and the greatest love you have ever known. Shall we therefore punish Brer Fox for throwing Brer Rabbit into the briar patch?

Walsch, always the public relations man, anticipates reader incredulity at statements like these by expressing apparent surprise and then asking "God" questions that the skeptical reader would probably ask. But in his process of seeming to challenge "God" — which he does with considerable skill — Walsch actually enables "God" to further expound upon and reinforce the thoughts and ideas of his teachings. Not surprisingly, Walsch always seems to come around to "God&#39;s" point of view. Even to some of his more extreme views about death and Adolph Hitler.

In a book entitled Questions and Answers on Conversations with God, Walsch addresses reader concerns about the comments that "God" makes about Hitler and death. One of Walsch&#39;s statements of justification is: Yet while the books do state that life is eternal, that death is nothing to fear, and that returning to God is joyful; I do not believe that any reasonable interpretation of the material could fairly portray God as condoning the killing of human beings — or brushing it off as if it were of no importance or consequence. But Walsch does not address the fact that he and other Global Renaissance Alliance board members recommend Barbara Marx Hubbard&#39;s book, The Revelation, in which "Christ" clearly describes a "selection process" that will result in the "second death" of all those who refuse to subscribe to his "new gospel."

Humanity is "God"

At one point in their "conversation," "God" develops the idea that man is not subject to God because man is God. "God" explains that there are no rules and there is no right nor wrong because man, as God, is his own "rule-maker." Walsch&#39;s "God" contends that because God and humanity are one, it is therefore up to humanity to determine what God wants to do. If humanity wants to make up a new set of rules this late in the game, humanity can do that because it was humanity, as God, that devised the original rules in the first place. Everything is relative. Everything is up to the prevailing majority. Therefore, because humanity is God, humanity can create whatever rules and whatever future it wants.

For example, "God" tells Walsch: All of your life you have been told that God created you. I come now to tell you this: You are creating God. …You are your own rule-maker. Think, speak, and act as the God You Are. …Your future is creatable. Create it as you want it. Create the grandest version of the greatest vision you ever had about yourselves as a human race. "Conscious evolution," or the process of mankind consciously exercising its authority as "God" to create its own future, is the title of a recent Barbara Marx Hubbard book. "God" tells Walsch he gave Hubbard the title of the book. "God" also takes credit for inspiring A Course in Miracles.

"God:" This is called conscious evolution, and your species has just arrived there.

Walsch: Wow, that&#39;s an incredible insight. That&#39;s why You gave Barbara Marx Hubbard that book! As I said, she actually called it Conscious Evolution.

"God:" Of course she did. I told her to.

"God:" All attack is a call for help.

Walsch: I read that in A Course in Miracles.

"God:" I put it there.

"God" makes it clear to Walsch that his modern-day "revelation" is for all those who have never really understood his teachings about man being God. As he was with Schucman and Hubbard, "God" is indirectly critical of Bible-believing Christians who insist that sin is real and that man is not God. "God" contends that the only real "sin" is for man to see himself as sinful and "separate" from God. "God" says that the only "devil" or "Satan" is the separatist thinking that differentiates between man and God.

Echoing A Course in Miracles, "God" states that only as humanity sees through the illusion of "separation" and "sin" and affirms its own godliness and oneness with all creation will the planet be saved from ultimate ruin.

"New gospel" Politics

Walsch&#39;s "God" warns that in the near future people will have to make a choice between the "old" and "new" gospels. The choice they make will have great bearing on the future of mankind. "God" declares that humanity, by collectively imagining and envisioning its highest hopes and dreams, can consciously create a positive future. "God" expresses great optimism that the "new gospel" will prevail and tells Walsch that humanity is standing on the threshold of a "golden" new age.

The twenty-first century will be the time of awakening, of meeting The Creator Within. Many beings will experience Oneness with God and with all of life. This will be the beginning of the golden age of the New Human, of which it has been written; the time of the universal human, which has been eloquently described by those with deep insight among you.

There are many such people in the world now — teachers and messengers, Masters and visionaries — who are placing this vision before humankind and offering tools with which to create it. These messengers and visionaries are the heralds of a New Age.

Regarding how the "New Age" will be achieved and ultimately overseen, "God" impresses Walsch with the importance of bringing spirituality into politics and government. He tells Walsch: When you agree to spread the word, to carry the message that can change the human heart, you play an important role in changing the human condition. This is why all spirituality is ultimately political.

You cannot avoid politicizing your spirituality. Your political viewpoint is your spirituality, demonstrated. Yet perhaps itis not a matter of politicizing your spirituality, but of spiritualizing your politics. "God" is very specific about how this spiritualization of politics should ultimately manifest itself.

"God:" Something will have to be new if you wish your world to change. You must begin to see someone else&#39;s interests as your own. This will happen only when you reconstruct your global reality and govern yourselves accordingly.

Walsch: Are you talking about a one-world government?

"God:" I am.

"God" exhorts Walsch to carry out his mission to change the world and to bring in a spiritually-based new world order by issuing this charge: Go, therefore, and teach ye all nations, spreading far and wide The New Gospel: WE ARE ALL ONE. And certainly Walsch seems to be doing his part. Responding to "God&#39;s" charge to spread the "new gospel" and to help establish sympathy for "a one-world government," Walsch co-founded The Global Renaissance Alliance with Marianne Williamson. He also continues to write books, conduct workshops and speak to large groups around the country.

<div align="center">Direct quotes from Walsch&#39;s "God"</div>
Purpose

And so I have chosen you to be My messenger. You, and many others. For now, during these times immediately ahead, the world will need many trumpets to sound the clarion call. (CWG Book 1, p. 144)

The purpose of this book, and of all the books in the trilogy we are creating, is to create readiness — readiness for a new paradigm, a new understanding; a larger view, a grander idea. (CWG Book 2, p. 36)

New gospel

There is only one message that can change the course of human history forever, end the torture, and bring you back to God. That message is The New Gospel: WE ARE ALL ONE. (FWG, p. 373)

God

There is only One of Us. You and I are One. (FWG, p. 23)

God is creation. (CWG Book 1, p. 198)

There are a thousand paths to God, and every one gets you there. (FWG, p. 357)

Christ

Many have been Christed, not just Jesus of Nazareth. You can be Christed, too. (CWG Book 2, p. 22)

Man

You are already a God. You simply do not know it. (CWG Book 1, p. 202)

You are the Creator and the Created. (CWG Book 3, p. 350)

You are, quite literally, the Word of God, made flesh. (FWG, p. 395)

My purpose in creating you, My spiritual offspring, was for Me to know Myself as God. I have no way to do that save through you. Thus it can be said… that My purpose for you is that you should know yourself as Me. (CWG Book 1, p. 26)

Atonement/Oneness

You must realize that "atonement" is just that — it is "atone-ment." It is the awareness that you and all others are One. It is the understanding that you are One with everything — including Me. (FWG, p. 92)

The only solution is the Ultimate Truth: nothing exists in the universe that is separate from anything else. (CWG Book 2, p. 173)

Evolution

And do not stay so "stuck" in your present beliefs and customs that you halt the process of evolution itself. (CWG Book 3, p. 89)

It&#39;s important now, it&#39;s time now, to change your mind about some things. This is what evolution is all about. (CWG Book 1, p. 168)

This truly is an evolution revolution, for now larger and larger numbers of you are creating consciously the quality of your experience, the direct expression of Who You Really Are, and the rapid manifestation of Who You Choose to Be. (CWG Book 3, p. 279)

Sin

In truth, there is no such thing as a "sinner," for no one can be sinned against — least of all Me. (CWG Book 3, p. 87)

Quite an interesting concept. How did anyone get you to believe that? (CWG Book 2, p. 43)

The act of Adam and Eve was not original sin, but, in truth, first blessing. (CWG Book 1, p. 56)

Evil

Evil is that which you call evil. (CWG Book 1, p. 61)

Aliens

Walsch: And You&#39;re telling me that beings from outer space are helping us with that?

"God": Indeed. They are among you now, many of them. They have been helping for years. (CWG Book 2, p. 239) The time will come when your consciousness will rise and your fear will subside, and then they will reveal themselves to you. Some of them have already done so — with a handful of people. (CWG Book 2, p. 239)

Creating Your Own Future

So if you think it would be interesting for the doomsday predictions of the psychics to come true, focus all your attention on that, and you can draw that to yourself. And if you think you would like to experience a different reality, focus on that, and that is the outcome you can draw to you. (CWG Book 3, p. 109)

New World Order

There have been those leaders among you who have been insightful enough and brave enough to propose the beginnings of such a new world order. Your George Bush, whom history will judge to be a man of far greater wisdom, vision, compassion, and courage than contemporary society was willing or able to acknowledge, was such a leader. So was Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev….(CWG Book 2, p. 199)

Peace

You can similarly end all war tomorrow. Simply. Easily. All it takes — all it has ever taken — is for all of you to agree. (CWG Book 1, p. 50)

Hitler and Death

Walsch: Well, I&#39;m going to have to ask the questions here that I know so many people are thinking and wanting to ask. How could a man like Hitler have gone to heaven? Every religion in the world… I would think every one, has declared him condemned and sent straight to hell.

"God": First, he could not have gone to hell because hell does not exist. Therefore, there is only one place left to which he could have gone. But that begs the question. The real issue is whether Hitler&#39;s actions were "wrong." Yet I have said over and over again that there is no "right" or "wrong" in the universe. A thing is not intrinsically right or wrong. A thing simply is. Now your thought that Hitler was a monster is based on the fact that he ordered the killing of millions of people, correct?

Walsch: Obviously, yes.

"God": Yet what if I told you that what you call "death" is the greatest thing that could happen to anyone — what then? (CWG Book 2, p. 36)

I do not love "good" more than I love "bad." Hitler went to heaven. (CWG Book 1, p. 61)

The mistakes Hitler made did no harm or damage to those whose deaths he caused. Those souls were released from their earthly bondage, like butterflies emerging from a cocoon. (CWG Book 2, p. 42)

So the first thing you have to understand — as I&#39;ve already explained to you — is that Hitler didn&#39;t hurt anyone. In a sense, he didn&#39;t inflict suffering, he ended it. (CWG Book 2, p. 56)

There is no "death." Life goes on forever and ever. Life is. You simply change form. (CWG Book 2, p. 40)

I tell you this, at the moment of your death you will realize the greatest freedom, the greatest peace, the greatest joy, and the greatest love you have ever known. Shall we therefore punish Brer Fox for throwing Brer Rabbit into the briar patch? (CWG Book 2, p. 36)

If you are a being who chooses to cut out a cancer within you in order to preserve your larger life form, then you will demonstrate that. (FWG, p. 369)

Every aspect of divinity has co-creative control over its destiny. Therefore, you cannot kill a mosquito against its will. At some level, the mosquito has chosen that. All of the change in the universe occurs with the consent of the universe itself, in its various forms. The universe cannot disagree with itself. That is impossible. (FWG, p. 371)

And so, to your question. Is it okay to swat a mosquito? Trap a mouse? Pull a weed? Slaughter a lamb and eat it? That is for you to decide. All is for you to decide. (FWG, p. 388)

For while you will understand that you cannot end another&#39;s life in any event (all life is eternal), you will not choose to terminate any particular incarnation, nor change any life energy from one form to another, without the most sacred justification. (CWG Book 1, p. 96–97)

tortas
05-09-2008, 05:02 PM
the exposure and charges being made against the religious sects in the news

recently makes me wonder if the government, nwo, or who have you, is paving the

way for their new religion

Steadfast
05-09-2008, 05:05 PM
<div align="center">Chapter 4 </div>
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<div align="center">Wayne Peterson and Maitreya</div>

I am come in my Father&#39;s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. —John 5:43

In February 1982 Wayne Peterson, a director of the U.S. Government&#39;s Fulbright Scholarship Program, was relaxing in his Washington D.C. home looking for something to watch on TV. His interest was piqued when he noticed popular talk show host Merv Griffin holding up a book entitled The Reappearance of the Christ and the Masters of Wisdom. Peterson, a former Peace Corps volunteer and veteran American diplomat, writes that his first thought was that the book had some "fundamentalist Christian message," but he questioned why Griffin would be "promoting" this religious group on his show. Fascinated, he stayed tuned as Griffin interviewed the book&#39;s author, British artist and esotericist Benjamin Creme.

Peterson recalls what transpired in the interview: During this discussion, Creme said that the one Christians call the Christ had reappeared and was living in a major industrial city in the Western world. This time his name was Maitreya and he was bringing with him a large group of his disciples, highly advanced, spiritual men called the Masters of Wisdom. He said we could expect to hear more about Maitreya on local and international news programs very soon.

Maitreya&#39;s purpose, Creme indicated, was to help us realize our innate divinity through learning to live in right relationship as brothers and sisters of one great family. The first step was to establish sharing as the way to eliminate the poverty and starvation that caused millions around the world to die daily in the midst of plenty. Maitreya was emerging in time to help us save ourselves and the planet, and would make himself known to all in a televised &#39;Day of Declaration&#39; soon to come.

As Peterson listened to Creme and heard about Maitreya, he recalled an incident from childhood. As a little boy in the midst of a life-threatening illness, he believed that he had been visited by "Mary," the mother of Jesus. So powerful was her help and presence that he expressed his desire to depart with her rather than stay in the world. In her successful effort to convince him to stay in the world with his family, Peterson states that she told him the following: I am going to tell you a secret that few now know. If you stay with your family, you will see the Christ because he will come to live with the people of the world.

Convinced that Maitreya was the "Christ" that "Mary" had promised would come, Peterson ordered Creme&#39;s book. From his reading, he learned more about the "Christ" and his highly evolved disciples, the "Masters of Wisdom." Peterson read how these Masters of Wisdom are supernaturally assisting in the evolution of humanity. From his reading, Peterson came to the conclusion that what we commonly refer to as angels are really "Christ" and these Masters of Wisdom. He read that in the future, as humanity transitions from the "old order" to a "new age," there will be more and more open collaboration between these Masters of Wisdom and world leaders in all fields and disciplines. Reading Creme&#39;s book, Peterson felt he was beginning to get the big picture.

As I read Creme&#39;s book, I learned more about the Christ, or World Teacher, whose personal name is Maitreya. He is the one awaited by all the major religions albeit unknown to them. The Christians wait for the return of the Christ, Buddhists for the next Buddha, Muslims for the Imam Mahdi, Hindus for a reincarnation of Krishna, and the Jews for the Messiah. These are all different names for one individual, Maitreya, who is here not as a religious leader but as a teacher for all humanity.

Benjamin Creme, in The Reappearance of the Christ and the Masters of Wisdom, said: In the esoteric tradition, the Christ is not the name of an individual but of an Office in the Hierarchy. The present holder of that Office, the Lord Maitreya, has held it for 2,600 years, and manifested in Palestine through His Disciple, Jesus, by the occult method of overshadowing, the most frequent form used for the manifestation of Avatars. He has never left the world, but for 2,000 years has waited and planned for this immediate future time, training His Disciples, and preparing Himself for the awesome task which awaits Him. He has made it known that this time, He Himself will come.

Wayne Peterson&#39;s book, Extraordinary Times, Extraordinary Beings, is his first person account of his personal involvement with Creme and Maitreya, what he experienced and what he was told. He writes that, amazingly, within weeks of seeing Creme on Merv Griffin and reading his book, Creme actually came to Washington, D.C. Peterson was able to meet with him and other followers of Maitreya and participate in a special "Transmission Meditation." Peterson said that this new form of meditation had been sent to humanity through Creme by one of the Masters of Wisdom. Peterson describes the meditation: Called Transmission Meditation, it was a service activity in which energy from the Masters was &#39;stepped down&#39; by the meditators and made available to the world. In the process the meditators&#39; own spiritual development was enhanced manifold. I understood that it was another way to help Maitreya and the Masters emerge as soon as possible.

Peterson reports that he has had several dramatic personal encounters with Maitreya and that he directly experienced Maitreya&#39;s extremely powerful spiritual energy. In describing one of those encounters Peterson writes: As we stood there with spiritual energy flowing freely, I told Maitreya that, if people could experience this energy, they would discard all their earthly notions of &#39;paradise.&#39;

In his over thirty-two years of work with the Peace Corps, the U.S. Diplomatic Service, and as a director of the Fulbright Scholarship Program, Peterson writes that he was able to uniquely observe many of the changes going on in the world. For a while he was unaware of others who had also met with Maitreya. Gradually over time he was able to meet others in positions of responsibility who had met privately with Maitreya and the Masters of Wisdom and were now actively working with them.

What I did not initially know was that many of my colleagues in government and diplomatic circles had had similar experiences and had also been contacted by members of a group of extraordinary beings, who might be called the elder brothers of humanity, custodians of the Divine Plan for our evolution. World leaders who are household names have privately confirmed their knowledge of and cooperation with this unfolding plan.

Maitreya & Gorbachev

Perhaps one of Peterson&#39;s chief revelations is that one of the political figures who openly acknowledges that he is working with Maitreya to bring peace to the world is former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev. There was one individual, however, who made it clear he had no problem with the public knowing he had met with the Christ. His name was Mikhail Gorbachev. Since he was now out of political power in his country, I assume he felt he had nothing to fear or lose from such a disclosure.

I was not surprised to learn this about Mr. Gorbachev, since I had heard much earlier of his involvement with Maitreya from a Pentagon official. I had also heard, from people I place much confidence in, that Mrs. Gorbachev had been to India several times to see the Avatar Sai Baba. I find it interesting that the international press never questioned Mr. Gorbachev more about his spiritual beliefs, since both he and his wife became Christians during his term in office.

From the freedom and openness he introduced to the Soviet Union, it appeared obvious to me that he was being influenced by the Christ. Eventually, we will hear more of this story and how the Soviet empire collapsed. What I appreciate about this story is the sure knowledge that the Masters have already undertaken the task of offering important world leaders a role in the coming global changes and of preparing them for the Day of Declaration. These leaders, who are undoubtedly disciples of the Masters, will be working to promote the goals of the Spiritual Hierarchy.

During a November 9, 2001 television interview in Santa Barbara, California, Peterson mentioned that South African political leader Nelson Mandela is another world figure who is actively working with Maitreya. Again, in the metaphysical world where "there are no coincidences," the Santa Barbara television program Bridging Heaven & Earth, on which Peterson appeared, is overseen by a board of directors that includes Barbara Marx Hubbard.

Peterson writes that many years ago, under some very unique circumstances, he was personally recruited into the Peace Corps by Chase Manhattan Bank President David Rockefeller who talked him into joining and actually pulled some strings in regards to his first assignment. That David Rockefeller helped one of Maitreya&#39;s chief spokespersons get his start in governmental service, while brother Laurance S. Rockefeller has been encouraging and financially supporting Barbara Marx Hubbard, is yet another interesting "coincidence," especially in light of Peterson&#39;s recent interview on the Hubbard-related television program. Peterson also writes that there are a number of interesting areas of common ground between Maitreya and the "Blessed Mother" Mary.

Therefore, what I am hearing in the messages from both Maitreya and the Blessed Mother is that, if we are to place our trust in God completely and become Self-realized souls, we must abandon fear. No half-way attempt is useful. One must be completely free of fear to experience God, by whatever name we call Him.

Many interesting parallels exist between descriptions of Maitreya&#39;s Day of Declaration and the messages from the Blessed Mother. Both tell us we can expect a major spiritual event that will shake the world. This event, according to the apparitions of the Blessed Mother, will change humanity. Both say it can be easy or difficult depending upon humanity itself. If we decide to change the way we live, we will enter a great and glorious age with relative ease. If we refuse to change our ways, the transition will be difficult and many will suffer.

Peterson continues to travel around the country and the world as a special advocate for Maitreya. He anticipates being employed as an ambassador for Maitreya after the World Teacher&#39;s "Day of Declaration" when Maitreya finally appears and makes himself known to mankind.

<div align="center">Direct quotes from Maitreya and Benjamin Crème</div>
New Revelation

He comes now to release that energy of Will and an entirely new aspect of Divinity will be presented to mankind. This is the New Revelation. We have shown that we are ready because we are beginning to sense ourselves as One. (Creme, Reappearance, p. 48)

Men must desire these changes for themselves; and begin implementing them of their own free will — thus showing they are ready for the new Revelation and Teaching which He brings. (Creme, Reappearance, p. 36)

New Dispensation

They stand ready today to receive the means of change, the outlines of the New Dispensation for this world. They stand ready to greet the dawn of that New Age which beckons all into divinity. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 238)

God

Every manifested phenomenon is part of God. And the space between these manifested phenomena is God. So, in a very real sense, there isn&#39;t anything else. You are God. I am God. This microphone is God. This table is God. All is God. And because all is God, there is no God. (Creme, Reappearance, p. 110)

Jesus

He was, and still is, a Disciple of the Christ and made the great sacrifice of giving up His body for the use of the Christ. By the occult process of overshadowing, the Christ, Maitreya, took over and worked through the body of Jesus from the Baptism onwards. Creme, Reappearance, p. 46)

He is one of the Masters who will very shortly return to outer work in the world, taking over the Throne of St. Peter, in Rome. He will seek to transform the Christian Churches, in so far as they are flexible enough to respond correctly to the new reality which the return of the Christ and the Masters will create. (Creme, Reappearance, p. 46)

The Master Jesus is going to reform the Christian churches. (Creme, Reappearance, p. 85)

"The Christ" Maitreya

The Christ is the Embodiment of the energy we call the Christ Consciousness or Principle, the energy of the Cosmic Christ. It is released into the world for us by Maitreya, the Christ, and to the degree that it manifests in us, we will recognize Him. (Creme, Reappearance, p. 48–49)

My plan and My duty is to reveal to you a new way, a way forward which will permit the divine in man to shine forth. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 164)

Share with Me, My friends, in a Great Work — nothing less than the transformation of this world. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 142)

I am the River. Through Me flows the new stream of God-given Life, and this shall I bestow on you. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 86)

My Teaching is, as ever, simple indeed. Men must share or die. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 272)

Man

Within all men sits a God. That God is your true Self. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 110)

The process of becoming divine is a simple one, a natural one, open freely to all men. It is the process of releasing that God Who, from the beginning, has dwelt within you. My Promise is this: if you will follow Me into the New Time, I shall release for you your divine nature. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 58)

My friends, God is nearer to you than you can imagine. God is yourself. God is within you and all around you. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 88)

Reappearance or "Return" of "The Christ"

My plan is to reveal Myself stage by stage, and to draw together around Me those enlightened souls through whom I may work. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 54)

One day, very soon now, when enough people are responding to His Presence and His energy, the Christ will allow Himself to be discovered. (Creme, Reappearance, p. 49)

One day soon, men and women all over the world will gather round their radio and television sets to hear and see the Christ: to see His face, and to hear His words dropping silently into their minds — in their own language. In this way they will know that He is truly the Christ, the World Teacher; and in this way too, we will see repeated, only now on a world scale, the happenings of Pentecost; and in celebration of this event Pentecost will become a major festival of the New World Religion. (Creme, Reappearance, p. 37)

He comes, not as the Head of the Christian, or any other church, for that matter. It may be that the orthodox Christian leaders will be among the last to recognize the Christ. He is not the one and only Son of God, but the friend and Elder Brother of Humanity. (Creme, Reappearance, p. 49)

Evolution/Oneness

I make all men One. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 142)

When I make Myself known, I shall express the hope of all mankind for a new life, a new start, a readiness to change direction; to see the construction of a New World in which men can live in peace; can live free from fear of themselves or their rothers….(Maitreya, Messages, p. 18)

One World Religion

But eventually a new world religion will be inaugurated which will be a fusion and synthesis of the approach of the East and the approach of the West. The Christ will bring together, not simply Christianity and Buddhism, but the concept of God transcendent — outside of His creation — and also the concept of God immanent in all creation — in man and all creation. (Creme, Reappearance, p. 88)

Aliens

…I am pledged to silence on certain work for and with the Space Brothers…. (Creme, Reappearance, p. 11)

I predict that you will see over the coming months and the next couple of years, a tremendous increase in U.F.O. activity all over the world — it is already beginning to take place — preparatory to the reappearance of the Christ and the externalization of the Hierarchy, which is going on at the same time. (Creme, Reappearance, p. 206)

Choice/Survival

A crisis of decision awaits mankind... Take care where you place your feet: on the steps which lead to tomorrow or — oblivion. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 130–131)

My plan is to reveal to men that there exists for them but two paths. One will lead them inexorably to devastation and death. The other, My friends, My dear ones, will lead mankind straight to God.... (Maitreya, Messages, p. 34)

The "God" of This World: Sanat* Kumara

In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus&#39; sake. – 2 Corinthians 4:4–5

Alice Bailey (direct quotes from her spirit guide)

"All the qualities, the love and the purpose of a supreme Entity, referred to in The New Testament as the "Unknown God," are focussed in Sanat Kumara. (Rays, p. 367)

…But each ray quality will serve to implement the expression of pure love, which is the essential and — at this time — the primary quality of the Lord of the World, Sanat Kumara. (Rays, p. 387)"

Benjamin Crème (direct quote from his spirit guide)

"He is our "Father." God is both within us and can be known — you can see God. In this coming age many, many people will see God, as Sanat Kumara. They will come before Sanat Kumara and take the third Initiation. (Even more will come before the Christ and take the first and second Initiations.) When you take the third Initiation you see God, as Sanat Kumara, the Lord of the World…. (Reappearance, p. 135)"

Direct quotes from Maitreya "the Christ"

"My task is to bring you, My friends, before the Father, before the Gilded Throne of the Shining One, there to present you to Him and establish you within Our Ranks. My Prophecy holds: I shall take before the Father all who are ready in this coming time. That is the Task given to Me by Him Whom we together serve. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 126)

I am with you as God&#39;s Representative, as the Spokesman for that Divine Being Whose dreams we are. I shall take you to Him when you are ready, when you have passed through the Gates twice, and stood shining before Me. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 42)

"God" of this world: Sanat* Kumara [Ed. note: Maitreya, the "Christ," appears to have at least a four-fold function:

(1) Help humanity to remember and experience their oneness with God and with each other.

(2) Bring peace to the world through his reappearance or "return."

(3) Introduce and oversee radically progressive economic, environmental, political, spiritual and humanitarian projects around the world.

(4) Lead mankind to the feet of the "Father,"

Sanat Kumara, is described as being the "Lord of the World." *Sanat happens to be an anagram for Satan.

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<div align="center">The Light That Was Dark</div>

Helen Schucman heard an "inner voice" that claimed to be "Jesus." Barbara Marx Hubbard heard an "inner voice" that claimed to be "Christ." Benjamin Crème and Wayne Peterson claim to have met the "Christ" and both report that he is already here on planet Earth. Neale Donald Walsch heard "an inner voice" that claimed to be "God." All of these individuals have written down what they experienced and what they were told in their personal encounters.

Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness. —Luke 11:35

This information has been published and these "new revelations" are now regarded by many as the new "word of God." As the new "word of God," these recent revelations directly challenge the authority and reliability of the Holy Bible, questioning and contradicting almost every major teaching of the "old Gospel" and presenting a "new gospel" to take its place. As this "new gospel" reinterprets the teachings of the Bible&#39;s Jesus Christ, it actually opposes Him and presents another "Christ" to take His place.

This "new gospel" is very powerful and very believable to those with no understanding of the true teachings of the Bible. As "new age" believers years ago, my wife and I had no reason to doubt any of the "new revelation" that was coming our way. When we were students of A Course in Miracles in the early 1980s it never occurred to us that Helen Schucman had received her spiritual dictation from anyone other than the real Jesus Christ.

As members of a Course study group, we studied what the "Jesus" of the Course said and applied his teachings to our lives. Having never read the whole Bible for ourselves, we were grateful that the Course was helping us to understand what the Bible was "really" saying. We accepted the Course&#39;s interpretation of the Bible completely. It had a certain logic and seemed to make sense.

We believed we were on the right path. Meaningful "coincidence" that had led us to the Course, and the supernatural signs that often accompanied our study appeared to confirm that we were where we were supposed to be. But at the height of our involvement with the Course, the Lord intervened. He exposed the darkness that was actually behind the deceptive "peace," "love," and "light" of our "new age/new gospel" teachings.

By the time it was all over, it was clear to us that all of our "new age" beliefs had been founded on half-truths and lies. Shocked and amazed by this discovery, we came to the conclusion that A Course in Miracles was not from God and that the "Christ" of A Course in Miracles was not the true Christ.

Because we had not previously been aware of the Bible&#39;s real teachings, we had not been aware of Jesus&#39; many warnings about spiritual deception. He said in the last days false prophets and false teachers, accompanied by deceptive signs and wonders, would deceive most of the world into following a counterfeit "Christ" that would pretend to be Him.

How We Were Deceived

The more we studied the Bible for ourselves and reflected on our own particular situation, the more we came to understand the extraordinary deception of which we had been a part — a deception that was hiding behind "new age/new gospel" teachings like A Course in Miracles.

In the following lengthy passages excerpted directly from my book, The Light That Was Dark: A Spiritual Journey, I describe my initial understanding of just how badly we had been deceived:

"For some time now my spiritual teachings had convinced me that I was a sinless, guiltless, perfect son of God and that I was every bit as much a part of the universal Christ as Jesus or Buddha or anyone else. Because evil was only illusion, there was no evil to be saved from. I had believed that I was responsible for myself and my world and that I was the creator of my own reality.

But as I looked at those &#39;truths&#39; now, I could see that they were not truths at all. What was being taught — no matter how cleverly expressed — stood in stark opposition to the actual teachings of the Bible. Couched in spiritual platitudes, the Course and the new age, although pretending to be friends of Jesus and the Bible, were really no friends at all. Like Judas, they betrayed Christ in the name of love and with a deceptive kiss.

Jesus warned about false prophets who would come in sheep&#39;s clothing — even in His name. His words were concise and clear: &#39;Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep&#39;s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves&#39; (Matthew 7:15). They would look not like an enemy but like someone you could trust, and I was now thoroughly convinced that the Course was a channeled wolf in sheep&#39;s clothing that came not to praise the Bible&#39;s Jesus but to bury His teachings forever — if that were possible.

"In the midst of my study I started to understand that for a number of years I had been letting my spiritual teachers — most especially the Course — tell me who Jesus &#39;really&#39; was and what His teachings &#39;really&#39; meant. I could see that through my own laziness in never reading or studying the Bible for myself I had swallowed a false gospel, hook, line, and sinker.

"I realized now that, although I was made in the image of God, I was not God or a part of God in any way. God was God, and I was me. I wasn&#39;t Christ or a part of Christ, and neither was Buddha or anyone else. Jesus was the Christ, and there was no other. And, in spite of what anyone else tried to say, He had won an amazing victory on the cross of Calvary — one that Joy and I had learned to call on time after time. It was a victory that was fully described in the Scriptures and that so many of the old hymns proclaimed.

"Something very mysterious had happened on that &#39;old rugged cross&#39; that a whole new age was doing hand-over-head flips to completely avoid. It was the &#39;victory in Jesus&#39; that A Course in Miracles was desperately trying to redefine and explain away.

"Finally, after all we had been through, I was starting to see that the heart of the gospel is not so much that God helps those who help themselves but rather that God helps those who can&#39;t help themselves. It was not in affirming our strength but in recognizing our weakness that we had finally learned to ask the Lord for help. It was His grace, not our own self-sufficiency that had saved the day.

"Yet even though we had recognized our need to be saved from the evil that was coming at us, we had stubbornly refused to acknowledge Jesus as our personal Lord and Savior. Clinging tenaciously to our metaphysical identities, we hadn&#39;t understood that our faith ultimately had to be in Jesus, not in ourselves — and that He meant it when He said, &#39;I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me&#39; (John 14:6).

"We had put our faith in ourselves as God and not in God as God; by going within we had gone without. We had grossly underestimated our ability not to be deceived, and we had grossly overestimated the wisdom of our metaphysical teachers."

Bible Warns of Spiritual Deception

Later, I reflect on how the reality of a deceptive spirit world was never mentioned in the Course or any of our other "new age" teachings. I continue the story in my book:

"When we could finally see through the spiritual deception, most of the Scriptures that we had been reading clicked into place. It was as if scales had fallen from our eyes, and suddenly the New Testament was flooded with light. Though we had a lot to learn about other aspects of the faith, it was apparent that we were, by virtue of our having been so thoroughly deceived, already well-versed in the Bible&#39;s description of deception.

"Several weeks later, after much study, reflection, prayer, and many more talks with Joy, I sat down by the creek one morning, determined to go through the Scriptures…laying out in even more detail what they said about A Course in Miracles and the other false teachings that had been woven into our lives. I went back and forth through the Scriptures trying to piece together our spiritual story.

"I also reread the Scripture… that talked about &#39;another Jesus&#39; — how even those who have already accepted the true Jesus could be deceived by a false Christ. &#39;For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him&#39; (2 Corinthian 11:4).

"Helen Schucman heard an &#39;inner voice&#39; that said, &#39;This is a course in miracles. Please take notes.&#39; The voice, which later identified itself as Jesus, proceeded to dictate a body of material that completely contradicted the real gospel of Christ and whose oppositional teachings could only be characterized as &#39;another gospel,&#39; &#39;another spirit,&#39; and &#39;another Jesus.&#39; Most of us who had read, studied, and believed in A Course in Miracles never knew or took seriously the Bible&#39;s explicit warnings about the deceivers who would come in Christ&#39;s name and pretend to be He.

"And most of us never knew the Bible&#39;s explicit warnings that false Christs and false prophets would arise in our midst and seduce us with supernatural signs and wonders to make us think that their teachings came from God. Those signs and wonders would be so convincing that &#39;if it were possible&#39; they would fool even the most faithful believers in the real gospel and the real Christ.

&#39;For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect&#39; – Matthew 24:24.

"But even if we had been aware of the warnings, who would have ever suspected that these false Christs and prophets would arise within our very selves and within our spiritual friends and teachers? Certainly the &#39;Jesus&#39; that arose within Helen Schucman and manifested as an audible &#39;inner voice&#39; was proof to us all that false Christs and false prophets were not always flesh and blood but could also come in the form of lying spirits that pretended to be a &#39;spirit guide,&#39; the &#39;Holy Spirit,&#39; our &#39;higher self,&#39; or in Helen&#39;s case, &#39;Jesus.&#39;

&#39;For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works&#39; (2 Corinthians 11:13–15).

"An angel of darkness could cleverly disguise himself as an angel of light. His servants could disguise themselves as teachers of Christ or even as Christ Himself. They were deceivers of darkness from the other side, another gospel, another spirit, another Christ — the ultimate deception.

Deceptive spirits cannot say that Jesus is the Christ and that He came to this earth in a physical body. When challenged, a deceptive spirit will deny that Jesus is the Christ and that He came in the flesh to earth.

"Those of us who had believed the Course&#39;s Jesus — that he was the Christ and that we were too—were deceived into thinking that &#39;the Christ&#39; was something bigger than Jesus or us or anyone else. But in believing the Course and my other spiritual teachers, I had unwittingly become the very person that the real Jesus warned me to watch out for.

&#39;Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many&#39; – Matthew 24:4–5.

"From that first psychic reading, I had been deceived. Led down a yellow brick road by pied piper spirits, I had, with the best intentions, landed in a metaphysical new age where the Christ proclaimed was not the real Christ at all. A well-orchestrated and exquisitely timed series of supernatural synchronistic experiences had convinced me that my involvement in alternative spirituality was &#39;meant to be.&#39;

Following the signs and wonders of deceptive spirits, I had jumped through my spiritual hoops with almost flawless precision. With expert strings being pulled by the other side, I had been seduced by a ball of light, an Indian guru on a Big Sur mountaintop, a former Napa Valley farmer who was now channeling &#39;the Source,&#39; and A Course in Miracles that had been sent by &#39;Jesus.&#39;

"…What we had thought to be spiritual truth had turned out to be nothing more than fiction. What we had believed to be the fiction of the Bible had ironically turned out to be the gospel truth. The age of deception that had been predicted was already well on its way.

Since our conversion in 1984, my wife and I have watched as a somewhat underground "new age" movement has evolved into the popularly accepted, worldwide spiritual phenomenon that it is today. It has grown at an exponential rate and is now starting to organize itself spiritually and politically. As previously mentioned, many well-known "new gospel" advocates have joined together to form The Global Renaissance Alliance.

A "new age" movement, that for so long seemed to be lacking a central core, has now "reinvented" itself. Suddenly, many of its leaders have formed a single organization that has a board of directors and even a mission statement.

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<div align="center">The Global Renaissance Alliance</div>

Marianne Williamson&#39;s radical transformation from a little known author appearing on The Oprah Winfrey Show in 1992 to best-selling author, "spiritual leader," and cofounder of The Global Renaissance Alliance has been remarkable to say the least. As already noted, Winfrey&#39;s enthusiastic public endorsement of Williamson&#39;s book, A Return to Love: Reflections on the Principles of A Course in Miracles, made Williamson, her book, and the Course instantly famous. While A Return to Love made Williamson a key player in the contemporary spiritual arena, a subsequent book, Healing the Soul of America, has now brought Williamson and her "new gospel" message into the political arena. The combined message of these two books is that we, the people, can heal the soul of America and the soul of the world if we "return to love" by accepting the "new gospel" along with its A Course in Miracles-based principles.

Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me. —Isaiah 54:15

Because of the popularity of her books and her continued favored status in the media, Williamson has fast become the unofficial ambassador for the "new gospel Christ." After the events of September 11, 2001, Williamson became one of the "experts" the media called upon to provide support to the nation and to make suggestions about how we should spiritually respond to these disastrous events. With everyone&#39;s heightened concern about terrorism and the general state of the world, Williamson and other "new gospel" activists are introducing spiritual strategies for America&#39;s future. Suddenly, "spiritual politics" is center stage as the "Christ" of the "new gospel" brings his updated spiritual teachings into everyone&#39;s living room — whether people know it or not.

Desirous of establishing a single, unified organization to help create peace, Marianne Williamson joined with Conversations with God author Neale Donald Walsch to co-found The Global Renaissance Alliance. Alliance members include a veritable "who&#39;s who" of best-selling "new age" authors and powerful "new gospel" advocates such as Barbara Marx Hubbard, Gary Zukav, James Redfield, Deepak Chopra, Wayne Dyer and many others.

The Global Renaissance Alliance describes itself as a "citizen-based network of spiritual activists" whose "mission is to make a stand in our local and national communities for the role of spiritual principle in solving the problems of the world." The unspecified "spiritual principle" is the "new gospel" notion that we are all "one" because we are all a part of "God."

Although the organization presents itself as an alternative to "politics as usual," its members seem to maintain the old political practice of not being very out front about their real agenda. As expressed between the lines of their writings, one of the obvious goals of the "new gospel" and of the Alliance organization is to completely "reinvent" (if it were possible) the traditional Gospel of Jesus Christ.

While members teach that all paths lead to God, they know that there is no place in their new spiritual world order for those who insist that Jesus Christ is their Lord and Saviour. The Alliance presents itself as a "grassroots" organization of everyday folks, but it is important to remember that the Alliance is spearheaded by a high level group of "new gospel" advocates who appear to be operating from a general blueprint channeled from the spirit world years ago by esotericist and occultist, Alice Bailey, who is the author of many channeled works. Her blueprint is continually being affirmed and updated by the recent "new revelations" received by Schucman, Hubbard, Walsch, Creme and others.

Williamson as much as admits the occultic foundation of the "new gospel" movement by using words that are the title of a Bailey book, The Destiny of the Nations. She also borrows a term frequently used by Maitreya when she describes the "Great Work" of which she is a part. In a revealing passage in her book, Healing the Soul of America, Williamson writes: Beyond the appearances of history, there is a great and glorious unfolding plan for the destiny of nations. According to the mystical traditions, God carries this plan within His mind, seeking always, in every way, channels for its furtherance. His plan for the evolution of humanity, and the preparation of teachers to guide it, is called within the esoteric traditions the Great Work.

The significance of Williamson, Walsch, Hubbard and other very influential "new gospel" advocates choosing to demonstrate their unity and oneness at this time through their global association, cannot be overstated. The amount of networking and mutual support among Alliance members is widespread as they continue to join together in increasingly powerful ways to put their "new gospel" agenda before an anxious world that is searching for spiritual answers. Furthering their common cause, Walsch has written the introduction to Hubbard&#39;s last two books, Conscious Evolution and emergence. Hubbard, in turn, recommends Walsch&#39;s and Williamson&#39;s books in her writings. Williamson does the same with Walsch and Hubbard. The three of them, in their mutual support of each other, provide a strong nucleus for the Alliance&#39;s high-powered network of "new gospel" advocates, many of whom have Direct quotes from author Marianne Williamson.

Healing The Soul Of America

There are new ideas on the world&#39;s horizon, as different from the twentieth-century worldview as the twentieth century was different from the nineteenth century. (p. 13)

A nonviolent political dynamic is once again emerging, and it is a beacon of light at the dawn of the twenty-first century. (p. 13)

Yes, we see there are problems in the world. But we believe in a universal force that, when activated by the human heart, has the power to make all things right. (p. 13)

We need to declare peace now, with as much serious effort and intention as that with which a nation declares war. (p. 141)

The bridge to a better world is a shift in mass consciousness….(p. 42)

When a particular group or structure fails to keep faith with the spirit of love — not measured by its words but by its actions —that structure then loses the privilege of guardianship of the great Work. (p. 196)

We can change, we will change — in fact, we are changing. That is our destiny….This moment is one of opportunity for the creation of a new civic force field. It is up to each and every one of us to decide where America goes now. (p. 197)

The question before us is: how do people who have reclaimed their spirituality best effect political change? (p. 199)

And we expand our perception of spiritual practice to include political activism, that bestsellers and followings of their own. The Alliance has definitely unified the "new gospel" leadership over the last few years. However, it wasn&#39;t until after the events of September 11 that they stepped forward in an even more significant and public way to begin introducing their "new gospel" plan for the conscious creation of world peace, we might most profoundly extend our compassion into the world. (p. 204)

One of the ways to reconnect our personal and political energy is through a project called Citizen Circles. These are small, grassroots groups held all around the country, in which two or more join together to hold the vision of a healed America. (p. 205)

But we do not act in order to oppose what is; we act in order to make another, more positive choice for the future…. We seek peace within ourselves at all times, for lack of peace in us will be reflected outside ourselves. (p. 207)

The Citizen Circle is a similar phenomenon, creating a mystical grid of new political possibility around the United States and the world. They help to ground the new political energy. (p. 207)

Alice A. Bailey (1880-1949 - Channeled Teachings From Her "Spirit Guide")

God

All the qualities, the love and the purpose of a supreme Entity, referred to in The New Testament as the "Unknown God," are focused in Sanat Kumara. (Rays, p. 367)

…But each ray quality will serve to implement the expression of pure love, which is the essential and — at this time — the primary quality of the Lord of the World, Sanat Kumara. (Rays, p. 387)

Christ

Humanity in all lands today awaits the Coming One — no matter by what name they may call Him. The Christ is sensed as on His way. (Reappearance, p. 188)

His third activity is the effort to offset the growing hate in the world, to strengthen the trend towards unity, and to show people everywhere the danger of separateness. (Externalisation, p. 436)

Man

This is the challenge which today confronts the Christian Church. The need is for vision, wisdom, and that wide tolerance which will see divinity on every hand and recognize the Christ in every human being. (Bethlehem, p. 273)

Humanity has come of age; the child stage is over....(Externalisation, p. 240)

New World Religion

The spirit has gone out of the old faiths and the true spiritual light is transferring itself into a new form which will manifest on earth eventually as the new world religion. (Rays, p. 754)

Workers in the field of religion will formulate the universal platform of the new world religion. It is a work of loving synthesis and will emphasize the unity and the fellowship of the spirit. This group is, in a pronounced sense, a channel for the activities of the Christ, the world Teacher. The platform of the new world religion will be built by many groups, working under the inspiration of the Christ. (Reappearance, p. 158–159)

This inherent fanaticism (found ever in reactionary groups) will fight against the appearance of the coming world religion and the spread of esotericism. (Externalisation, p. 453)

So it is that a new politics centers around the arousal of that power, using prayer and meditation to create a forcefield of transformation. (p. 209)

A new politics is emerging for the twenty-first century, defining power not by dominance but by sharing. (p. 223)

It is a mystical revolution that will usher in a mystical age. (p. 254)

As a loving critical mass coalesces, as hearts around the world continue to yearn and work for peace, then new forms will emerge to actualize our new planetary vision. (p. 255)

New gospel

...[T]he Christian faith also has served its purpose; its Founder seeks to bring a new Gospel and a new message that will enlighten all men everywhere. (Rays, p. 754)

New age

The New Age is upon us and we are witnessing the birth pangs of the new culture and the new civilization. This is now in progress. That which is old and undesirable must go and of these undesirable things, hatred and the spirit of separation must be the first to go. (Externalisation, p. 62)

Peace

So peace will come again on earth, but a peace unlike aught known before. (Rays, p. 95)

Experience

Therefore, in the new world order, spirituality will supercede theology; living experience will take the place of theological acceptances. (Externalisation, p. 202)

Separation

Hate and separation must cease….(Externalisation, p. 246)

Thus the expressed aims and efforts of the United Nations will be eventually brought to fruition and a new church of God, gathered out of all religions and spiritual groups, will unitedly bring to an end the great heresy of separateness. (Destiny, p. 152)

Evolution

Emphasis should be laid on the evolution of humanity with peculiar attention to its goal, perfection. (Externalisation, p. 588)

Purification

It involves the elimination of all that hinders the nature of divinity from full expression….(Rays, p. 84)

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After the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, several key "new gospel" advocates from The Global Renaissance Alliance suddenly appeared on network shows that were directly related to the tragic events. Marianne Williamson was interviewed by Tom Brokaw on NBC, by Oprah Winfrey on CBS, and by Larry King on CNN. Gary Zukav appeared on Oprah twice. And Wayne Dyer did commentary on MSNBC and NBC, and even had his own PBS special.

All of them gave their spiritual perspective on September 11 and introduced their "new gospel" ideas for creating peace. As designated "spiritual experts," Williamson, Zukav and Dyer seemed more than eager to present their thoughts and ideas to an American public that was searching for spiritual answers after September 11. Immediately challenging old mindsets, the Alliance members were straightforward, authoritative and even insistent about what they said. Our world has changed, so we must change. If we wish to "survive as a species" we need to "think differently" about our world and about our future. We need a "new standard." We need a "new way." We need "peace."

As soon as you — all who know your potentials — can tell this vision on television, you will have begun your real work in the world. —Hubbard&#39;s "Christ"

Marianne Williamson on Larry King

After September 11, Marianne Williamson suddenly became one of the media "experts" being asked questions like: Why did this happen? Where was God? What can we spiritually do about it?

Larry King Live hosted Williamson on a prestigious panel of guests that included three U.S. Senators, a former Senate Majority Leader, a former Ambassador to the United Nations and a well-known political journalist. Her inclusion on CNN&#39;s high-powered political panel was reflective of her newfound status as both spiritual and political commentator. This was emblematic of just how far she has come in the world since her first appearance on Oprah back in 1992.

Described by King as a "spiritual leader" and author of the book Healing the Soul of America, Williamson confidently told King&#39;s viewers that in regard to the events of September 11, "Every problem comes bearing its own solution." Williamson used her prime time interview with King to introduce world peace as that solution. She explained how everyone&#39;s spirituality could be used as a "force" to help create that peace. "We have to wage peace," she emphatically stated. Speaking in generalities without actually defining her terms,

Williamson made no direct mention of A Course in Miracles, and she made no mention of the "alternative to Armageddon" peace plan contained in Barbara Marx Hubbard&#39;s book, The Revelation. From Williamson&#39;s remarks, most viewers probably had no idea that the peace she was proposing was completely based on "new gospel" principles.

Williamson&#39;s simple statement that we have to "wage peace" takes on a whole new meaning when one realizes that her ideas about peace come directly from the "Christ" of the "new gospel" — a "Christ" who teaches that the next stage of our spiritual development is the collective realization that we are all a part of God; a "Christ" who warns that those who are unable to "move to the highest level of their nature" by acknowledging themselves as part of God, will not be a part of his "peaceful" future; and a "Christ" who states that anyone opposing his peace process will be submitted to his "selection process."

Regarding September 11, Williamson told Larry King: …it is a challenge for the human race to evolve into the next stage of our spiritual development. You know what we need to heal are the thought forms and the feelings that cause us to create war and mass destruction on this kind of a level, because ultimately if we are to survive as a species, we have to become a human race for whom the thought of war is unthinkable.

We have to wage peace.…We need to dismantle hatred itself. And hatred is our real problem.… So we need to understand the spiritual malaise of hatred as much as we need to understand any of the external powers that hatred or military action we&#39;d be involved with. …God would have us move to the highest level of our nature, and that means that we need to understand that our capacity to deal with the spirit — the darkness of the spirit with the light of the spirit as our greatest power.

…We are loving each other, and in that love and that realization of our interconnectedness, we are not only finding a way to heal from the grief of what has occurred, but to endure what is occurring now and to transform what is occurring now.

When the president said we have to think differently because it&#39;s a new kind of war, we have to think differently because it&#39;s a new world. We have to think differently, we have to love differently.

Larry King closed the interview by telling viewers that "you always feel better" after hearing from Marianne Williamson.

Marianne Williamson on Oprah

Appearing on Oprah soon after September 11, Williamson emphasized her theme that "every problem comes bearing its own solution." Proposing world peace as that solution, she began introducing some of the basic concepts of her "new gospel" peace plan, but without defining her terms. For instance, she introduced the "Atonement" — the foundational doctrine of the "new gospel" peace plan — by simply stating that as individuals and as a nation we need to "atone." When Oprah asked what she meant by "atone," Williamson said that it meant that we should ask God not just to bless America but also to bless the world; asking God to heal us and to let us know what we needed to know.

Williamson&#39;s streamlined answer did not alert listeners to the real meaning of the "Atonement" contained in any of the 248 references in A Course in Miracles. These references make it clear that "atoning" means seeing yourself and others as a part of God. When you "atone" you see everyone and everything as God. For instance, on page 98 of the Course Text, it says:

The full awareness of the Atonement, then, is the recognition that the separation never ocurred. Perhaps more significantly, in terms of Williamson&#39;s discussion of peace, the "new gospel" teaches that peace can only come through the "Atonement" (at-one-ment). This is described on page 175 of the Course Text:

Yet you cannot abide in peace unless you accept the Atonement, because the Atonement is the way to peace. After introducing this idea of "atoning" Williamson described how she and others are gathering together in small "cell" groups ("cells of peace") to pray for world peace. Williamson explained that as people join their hearts together through meditation and prayer, they begin to create a loving "energy field" that counters the hate and negativity being generated by the world.

She explained that as the number of people consciously gathering together to create peace increases, so the strength of the "force field" will proportionately increase. She said that prayer becomes a "conduit for miracles" as the "force field" grows in strength, and as the love generated from it is "harnessed" and purposefully directed for the "good" of the world.

The "new gospel" atonement (at-onement) process stands in stark opposition to Jesus&#39; atonement described in the Bible. Jesus died on the cross for all mankind. He died for us so that we might be reconciled to God (Romans 5:7–12; I Corinthians 5:21).

Regarding September 11 and the need for peace and "atonement," Williamson told Oprah that …[E]very problem comes bearing its own solution.… I think this tragedy has taken us to a ground of being that is like a precious vial of spiritual medicine.

…So I think now we shouldn&#39;t underestimate how much good can come from just talking among ourselves, and atoning. You know, a nation atones, and I think… people around the world can feel us. …I&#39;ve been very involved with people sitting in small groups praying, meditating and speaking from our hearts about what really matters. You know, the terrorists have cells. We hear about the terrorist cells. Well, we need cells of peace. It&#39;s not enough to just defend ourselves against violence. The greatest antidote to violence is that we proactively create fields of non-violence, fields of peace.

…[W]e have a power in us more powerful than the power of bullets. The power of love can be harnessed.

…[H]arnessing our love that it might become a social force for good.…Prayer is a conduit of miracles.

…But love dismantles hatred, so we need [to] take our love seriously now.

During the interview Williamson informed viewers that she was part of an international prayer vigil that prayed daily. She gave the time of the vigil for viewers interested in joining her peace effort. She stated that when you are involved in the prayer vigil "you feel the power." Most viewers, of course, had no idea that the "oneness" (at-one-ment) being generated from such synchronized activity provides the literal foundation for the "new gospel" peace plan. "Christ," for example, had specifically warned Barbara Marx Hubbard that all humanity "…must be consciously linked in a common thought pattern for an instant in time to AVOID ARMAGEDDON."

Using a metaphor to further introduce the concept of "oneness," Williamson described how small groups of individuals around the world, consciously joined together in thought and prayer, are like the links of a chain. She gave as an example the account of the thousand or so people who miraculously escaped the World Trade Center by forming a "human chain." She suggested that we should all be like the links of that chain and that we should hold on to one another emotionally and spiritually.

Using another metaphor, Williamson further developed the "new gospel" concept of "oneness." She described our country as "a fabric" and the people of our country as "the weave" of that fabric. She stated that we must be a "tight weave." She said a loose weave lets "darkness" in. She suggested that our country can become a "tight weave" as "cells of peace" build "deep community" by collectively praying, meditating, and "envisioning" a more peaceful world.

She said that "fear is merely the absence of love." And that through prayer, meditation and sharing in small groups, people find that fear is lessened. Williamson closed her remarks on Oprah by stressing that "our way hasn&#39;t worked" and suggested to viewers that "there might be another way." We need to consider "new modes and new dimensions of power" in order to achieve peace.

Williamson&#39;s confident and authoritative assertions left viewers with the impression that the "God" she was praying to definitely would bring peace to the world if enough people joined together to pray and meditate for that peace.

This is where the rubber meets the road in faith. Do we trust that as we pour spiritual power onto this, divine love onto this and ask for a miracle, one thing that this [September 11 tragedy, ed.] shows is that our way has not worked, and miracles come when we consider the possibility there might be another way. And as we sit in silence and throw divine love on to this situation and do so in community with others, that will bring forth a power out of our hearts and our consciousness and our prayers that no worldly power can express.

It&#39;s time for us to find new modes and new dimensions of power to complement worldly modes of power. That&#39;s necessary now….

People who visit The Global Renaissance Alliance web site find an Alliance "Handbook" that describes how to run successful "citizen circles" ("cells of peace"). Included in the Handbook is a guided meditation for world peace as well as suggestions on how each group can best envision and pray for world peace. The Alliance website also contains a recommended reading list that includes Williamson&#39;s book A Return to Love: Reflections on the Principles of A Course in Miracles, Neale Donald Walsch&#39;s Conversations with God books, and Barbara Marx Hubbard&#39;s book The Revelation: A Message of Hope for the New Millennium.

Gary Zukav on Oprah

Global Renaissance Alliance member and best-selling "new gospel" author Gary Zukav appeared on Oprah twice in the aftermath of September 11. On both programs Zukav presented many of the same ideas previously communicated by Williamson.

Using familiar "new gospel" words and phrases, Zukav emphasized the need for oneness and "interconnectedness" while warning of the dangers of "separation" and "isolation."

He stressed the world&#39;s need to move towards "love" and away from "fear." He also stated the need for "a new way" of looking at things, the need for "a new standard," and the need to change ourselves in order to change our world. Like Williamson he did not define his terms. And like Williamson, he made no direct reference to the "Armageddon alternative" peace plan detailed in Hubbard&#39;s book The Revelation — a book that bears Zukav&#39;s personal endorsement on the first page.

Here are excerpts of Zukav&#39;s remarks on Oprah&#39;s post-September 11 program "Is War the Only Answer?":

Winfrey: Gary Zukav is author of "The Seat of the Soul," one of my favorite books. And we&#39;ve talked to him many times on this show. He also served in Vietnam as a Green Beret officer. Take a look at why Gary says that humanity is at a crossroads.

Gary Zukav (Author): The most damaging choices that we can make are the choices of vengeance, the choices of hatred.

…The hatred that exists in the world will not disappear tomorrow, and there is nothing that an Army or a Navy can do to eliminate it or even reduce it. But you can remove that energy from yourself, and in that process, you can make more intelligent decisions about how you and the United States can contribute more to the world. These events have shown us that we are interconnected through our pain, that we are not separate from others.

…I have heard people say that our primary focus now should be to return to normal. That&#39;s not good enough. Our previous understanding of normal was filled with fear…. Our responsibility now is not to return to normal but to create a new standard for ourselves, for our country.

In another post-September 11 appearance on an Oprah show entitled "What do You Really Believe," Zukav again hit on the key concepts of "fear" and "separation."

These times, these events offer us opportunities to examine our belief systems and to experiment with them. Many people&#39;s belief system has been challenged by these violent and brutal events. This is good because these people are now looking inward to see whether that belief system served them. …I know for sure that the universe is wise and compassionate. The question then becomes: How can there be such brutality and such pain and such suffering in our world if the universe is compassionate and wise? The reason is we put it there. We create it. And it is up to us to stop creating it.

Use those events of September 11th to begin your process of examining the parts of yourself that need to be changed, the parts that are judgmental, that are angry, the parts that bring violence into the world. We are looking for an enemy because we feel that an external enemy is the cause of the terrorism that we are frightened of. I know for sure that as we continue to look for the root of violence in other people that there will be more violence.

We cannot eliminate terror by eliminating a few people. No bomb, no bullet, no Navy or Air Force or Army will eradicate terror. This belief system that safety comes in isolation, in separation, has brought us to this collective experience of terror.

…Will you become more and more imprisoned by your fear? …We are at a turning point now because we can continue to live in fear or we can start to create a world without fear.

…Changing yourself is the only way that you will learn how to live a life that is without fear. As long as you are running from it, it controls you. Use these troubling times for your benefit. I know for sure that as your fears begin to leave you, your interest and care in others will increase and that your life will begin to fill with the meaning and purpose and joy that you were born to experience, that you were born to create."

Most viewers would have no idea that Zukav&#39;s exhortation was really a direct challenge for them to change what they believed about God. In Zukav&#39;s "new gospel" world of peace and oneness, each person must come to the eventual realization and understanding that they are a part of God. "Love" and "oneness," according to the "new gospel," mean seeing yourself and others as a part of God. "Fear" and "separation" mean not seeing yourself or others as a part of God.

Zukav claimed that a fear-based belief in "separation" was responsible for the "collective experience of terror" of September 11. His inference is clear and completely consistent with the "new gospel" position.

"Fearful" people — those not seeing themselves or others as a part of God — create serious problems for everyone else because of their unbelief. "Fearful" people need to change the erroneous and harmful perception that they are "separate" and not a part of God.

In "new gospel" vernacular changing yourself means remembering and realizing that you are a part of God. Everything that you think and do must flow from this concept that all is love and all is one and all is God. The "new gospel" and the "new gospel peace plan" are completely dependent on the world accepting "love" and "oneness" while letting go of all thought systems erroneously based in "fear" and "separation."

Wayne Dyer on PBS

Global Renaissance Alliance member Wayne Dyer made a post-September 11 appearance on PBS. His presentation of introductory "new gospel" principles, including his enthusiastic endorsement of A Course in Miracles, served as an actual fundraiser for PBS itself.

Although September 11 was not the main focus of his remarks, the tragic events were incorporated into the discussion and all of his material was directly relevant. Spearheading the PBS affiliate&#39;s membership drive, Dyer&#39;s new book, There&#39;s A Spiritual Solution To Every Problem, was offered to viewers as a premium for joining the station.

His presentation was made in a colonial New England church in Concord, Massachusetts that Dyer said was once pastored by Ralph Waldo Emerson&#39;s grandfather and attended by Emerson himself. Framed in this historic setting reminiscent of the American Revolution and of our ancestors&#39; fight for freedom, Dyer was cast in the role of a modern-day preacher. Combining patriotism and spirituality in a style much like Marianne Williamson, Dyer told his huge PBS audience that man&#39;s "problems" arise from his belief that he is "separate" from the divine. Dyer reminded his audience that they were "one" with creation; that they were, in fact, "divine."

He told them that their only problem was the mistaken belief that they were separate from their "source."

The other line that came to me in A Course in Miracles, when it uses the word "problem," said this: If you do have a problem, the only problem you have is your belief that you are separate from your Source.

…Remember, in the beginning God created heaven and earth and all that was created was good so that anything that isn&#39;t good has come about because of your belief in your mind that you are separate from this divinity. You are not what you have. You are not what you do. You are not what others think of you. You are the beloved. You are the divine. You are a creation that is made into perfection.

…When you move into a spiritual approach to life you begin to see yourself as connected to everyone and everything, and competition is replaced by something called cooperation.

Combining the Prayer of Saint Francis of Assisi ("Lord make me an instrument of thy peace") with teachings from A Course in Miracles about peace, Dyer emphasized that peace comes from remembering one&#39;s connection to the divine.

He told PBS viewers that the world would be a more peaceful place if everyone was living by the principles of A Course in Miracles. You know, I&#39;ve been studying something for several years and the thing that I&#39;ve been studying is called A Course in Miracles, and A Course in Miracles is a very interesting collection of brilliant writing that I think if the world were living by it perhaps we would have far, far, fewer of the conflicts and struggles and so on that we have amongst ourselves and amongst nations and in our families….

The Significance of the Campaign

For years now I have watched as "new age/new gospel" proponents like Marianne Williamson, Gary Zukav, Wayne Dyer, Barbara Marx Hubbard and others have introduced the "Christ" of the "new gospel" through their books and public appearances. But these were usually theoretical and most of them seemed only loosely identified with one another.

Now, after September 11, everything is moving into a much clearer prophetic perspective. It is extremely sobering to watch as these same individuals emerge on prime-time television as part of a "global alliance" that is introducing their "new gospel" as a means of achieving world peace.

Everything seems to be coming about as the "God" and "Christ" of the "new gospel" is starting to publicly introduce his "alternative to Armageddon" as the only way to a true and lasting peace.

"Two meanings of fear contrasted: The meaning of fear in the "new gospel" But this paradigm shift will take great wisdom, great courage, and massive determination. For fear will strike at the heart of these concepts and call them false. Fear will eat at the core of these magnificent truths and make them appear hollow. Fear will distort, disdain, destroy. And so Fear will be your greatest enemy. (Walsch&#39;s "God," FWG, p. 357) Joining the Atonement is the way out of fear. ("Jesus," ACIM Text, p. 81)

It is essential at the moment of infusion of empathy that you overcome all fear of separation from God. This overcoming of fear in a whole planetary experience is an irresistible force. No being can resist it. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 244–245)

The second death, for you, is a purification, an erasing of the memory of fear, through the shock of a fire. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 267)

The Meaning of Atonement in the "New Gospel"

The Atonement is the final lesson he [man] need learn, for it teaches him that, never having sinned, he has no need of salvation. ("Jesus," ACIM Text, p. 237)

The full awareness of the Atonement, then, is the recognition that the separation never occurred. ("Jesus," ACIM Text, p. 98)

You must realize that "atonement" is just that — it is "atone-ment." It is the awareness that you and all others are One. It is the understanding that you are One with everything — including Me. ("God," FWG, p. 92)

The crucifixion did not establish the Atonement; the resurrection did. Many sincere Christians have misunderstood this. ("Jesus," ACIM Text, p. 36)

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There are literally 999 references to peace in A Course in Miracles. When I studied the Course it never occurred to me that there could be anything wrong with the peace the Course described, or the means they prescribed for obtaining it. I believed that the "Jesus" of the Course had my best interests in mind when he taught me to see everyone and everything as "a part of God." I didn&#39;t know anything about spiritual deception. I didn&#39;t know that the Bible warned about a false "Christ" who would come with "lying signs and wonders" and false miracles — like A Course in Miracles. But if you aren&#39;t familiar with the teachings of the Bible, you don&#39;t know these things. Almost everyone in this world wants love and peace. But what are the conditions necessary to obtain that love and peace? And what if the love and peace you seem to attain becomes something else down the line?

…and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many...—Daniel 8:25

The "Christ" of the "new gospel" has a plan. He calls it "the alternative to Armageddon." He says that with his plan Armageddon can be avoided, promising that his "atonement plan" (at-one-ment plan) will work if everyone plays their necessary part.

But it must be a unified team effort. One for all and all for one. There can be no detractors; there can be no weak links. "Love" and "peace" will prevail when "fear" and "separation" are overcome. "Overcomers," according to the "new gospel," are those who have overcome "fear" and "separation" by recognizing they are part of God and "atone" with creation.

The "Armageddon alternative" peace plan has been given by the "new gospel Christ" to his avant-garde channelers who are now in the process of gradually introducing this "plan," with its underlying "new gospel" principles, to an unsuspecting general public. But the "Armageddon alternative" is not referred to as such at this time. The terms and concepts presented are generally simple and pleasing — terms that, while loaded with hidden "new gospel" meaning, remain non-threatening to the average person. The "new gospel" is presented in simple sound bites about the virtues of "love," "peace," and "oneness," while warning about the dangers of "fear," "hate," "self-centeredness," and "separation."

Because things are being kept purposefully vague, there is no talk about the plan&#39;s "selection process." At least not yet.

False Assumptions of the "New Gospel" Peace Plan

(1) Each person is a part of God. Each person is a cell in the one body of God that is humanity. Each person (cell) is divinely interconnected through their "christ-self" or "higher self" to one another.

(2) Fear-based belief systems (like "old Gospel" teachings) deny that we are a part of God. This denial creates the illusion that humanity, the world, and God are separate from self. This "misperception" creates a world that is filled with self-centeredness, violence, hate, and war.

(3) Love-based belief systems (like "new gospel" teachings) affirm that we are a part of God. This affirmation results in the true perception that humanity, the world, and God are "one" with self. This true perception creates a world that is filled with selflessness, non-violence, love and peace.

(4) Whatever we think is what we draw to ourselves. If we believe that war is inevitable, then the power of that belief will make it so. If we believe that peace is inevitable, then the power of that belief will make it so.

(5) For the peace plan to work each person must responsibly play their part in the peace process. Those who do not responsibly play their part hinder the evolution of humanity and the attainment of peace.

False Elements of the "New Gospel" Peace Plan

(1) Each person recognizes that the world is in great peril; if something isn&#39;t done soon, humanity as a species could become extinct.

(2) Each person as a cell in the one body of humanity that is God has a responsibility to function properly within the context of the body by thinking "right" thoughts, and relating to the body in a unified, wholistic manner.

(3) Each person understands that the future of the world is up to the collective body. What they think is what they get. Thoughts of love, unity, and peace must prevail.

(4) Each person must correct any "misperception" that reinforces the idea that God, self, humanity, and the world are separate from one another. All fear-based notions of separateness must be eliminated from their thoughts and actions. No more separatist thoughts about sin, Satan, or Armageddon being real; only thoughts of God, love, and peace.

(5) Through prayer and meditation each person begins to envision and create the peaceful world they would like to see. They affirm and hold that vision of peace in their daily thoughts.

(6) People gather together in small groups to increase the power of their individual envisioning. They join together as an expression of their oneness to collectively pray and meditate and hold the vision of a peaceful world.

(7) People meditate, pray and hold the vision of peace at the same time around the world to increase the power of their effort.

(8) Special events are arranged where people around the world can link more openly with one another (like the 1987 Harmonic Convergence) to increase the power of their collective vision. People begin to see and experience the power that comes from joining together in expressions of "oneness."

(9) As humanity becomes more aligned within its one body, and unified in its expressed desire for peace, the power of God is more flowing and present, and there is an increase in miracles and healings.

10) As everyone links through their "Christ-self" or "higher self," the power of God (i.e., the "Force") begins to manifest its presence.

(11) Only fear, with its illusion of separateness, can threaten the flow of the "Force" within the one body and keep the body from experiencing feelings of peace and oneness. These thoughts of separation are like cancer cells in the body and must be completely healed or "removed" from the body.

(12) Because thoughts of separation threaten the health and the peace of the body, a system is devised to visibly mark those who recognize their oneness with God. Those who do not submit to the process ultimately reveal themselves as separatists.

(13) An appointed day arrives when all of those who want the God and Christ potentials within them to be fully activated align themselves in a designated moment in time with all humanity.

(14) With the "Force" of God fully manifesting in one moment through all mankind, humanity experiences itself as the "one body" of God.

(15) This universal link-up with the "Force" results in all humanity being resurrected and born again into a whole new way of being. In the twinkling of an eye they are taken to a new spiritual level as they now actually experience themselves as a part of God.

(16) Once humanity has been linked as "one" and corporately transformed, Christ, and ultimately God, will be enabled to "return" to earth. Peace will reign in the "New Heaven," on the "New Earth," and in the "New Jerusalem." Projects of goodwill shall prevail. Sharing will be the key word.

(17) Self-centered and separatist members of the "one body" who choose not to participate in this transformational peace process will be judged and removed from the corporate body by the "selection process."

They are not allowed to hinder the spiritual development of the rest of the "one body." They will not be allowed to keep peace from happening. They are removed for the good of all.

The Armageddon Alternative: The Planetary Pentecost

Just as Global Renaissance Alliance members appeared on prime time television after September 11, it is expected that they will become even more of a presence during any future crises. Convinced that their "Christ" has a way to save the world from disaster, they will continue to introduce his "new gospel" peace plan to a world that is desperate for peace —a peace plan that their "Christ" has described in detail as the "alternative to Armaggedon."

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The alternative to Armageddon is the Planetary Pentecost. When a critical mass is in the upper room of consciousness on a planetary scale, each will hear from within, in their own language, the mighty words of God. All who are attuned will be radically empowered to be and do as Jesus did. (p. 157)

Here we are, now poised either on the brink of destruction greater than the world has ever seen — a destruction which will cripple planet Earth forever and release only the few to go on — or on the threshold of global co-creation wherein each person on Earth will be attracted to participate in his or her own evolution to godliness. (p. 174)

It [Armageddon] will be a self-fulfilling prophecy if we force ourselves to continue contemplating this disastrous set of events. (p. 204)

Armageddon is, dearly beloved, the dreadful script which you and I rewrite now. (p. 204)

This text was written not to add or subtract from the divine book of Revelation. It was written to inform you of the alternative to Armageddon. (p. 305)

The Book of Revelation is a description of one path to the New Jerusalem, but this scenario is not inevitable. (p. 158)

The Book of Revelation describes the violent path to the New Jerusalem. This Revelation [Hubbard&#39;s book] describes the loving path to the same condition. (p. 265)

You are to prepare the way for the alternative to Armageddon, which is the Planetary Pentecost, the great Instant of Co-operation which can transform enough, en masse, to avoid the necessity of the seventh seal being broken. (p. 172–173)

Tell them to recognize the God within themselves, and to follow that light through the darkness of the tribulations to the dawn of the Universal Age, when only the God-conscious continue to exist, and everyone is like Christ. (p. 102)

You are to provide the opportunity for a planetary signal wherein each person who chooses life over death can register that decision visibly — a coming to witness before the world. (p. 302)

Each shall be "sealed" with the seal of the living God. This means that they shall be marked, visibly identified, first to themselves, then to others. This means that their inner eye in the forehead will be fully opened by this touch, henceforth awakening them from the womb of self-centeredness. (p. 149)

All those sealed with the seal of the living God must be consciously linked in a common thought pattern for an instant in time to AVOID ARMAGEDDON. The bell will never toll, if you can link before the end must come. (p. 241)

Those with the seal of the living God on their foreheads will be with Christ at the time of the Transformation. (p. 190)

I cannot "return" until enough of you are attracted and linked. (p. 66)

There will be practices for this coming event. (p. 242)

Either the good will prevail, connect, link, and magnetize the majority of humanity to act with love for life everlasting, or the violent selection of the self-centered will begin. (p. 303)

The decisive moment of selection has almost come. The judgment of the quick and the dead is about to be made. The end of this phase of evolution is nearly complete. (p. 189)

All who choose life everlasting have judged themselves worthy to be me. (p. 304)

If those people who are not self-centered align their thoughts in perfect faith, that they are whole, created in the image of God, the world can be saved. (p. 157)

As the Planetary Smile ripples through the nervous systems of earth and the Instant of Co-operation begins, empathy floods the feelings of the whole body of Earth, separateness is overcome, and I appear to all of you at once. (p. 245)

At the moment of cosmic contact, I will appear to you both through inner experience and through external communication in your mass media — the nervous system of the world. You will all feel, hear, and see my presence at one instant in time, each in your own way. (p. 245)

An uncontrollable joy will ripple through the thinking layer of Earth. The cocreative systems, which are lying psychologically dormant in humanity will be activated. From within, all sensitive persons will feel the joy of the force, flooding their systems with love and attraction. It will be as irresistible as sex. (p. 243)

As this joy flashes through the nervous systems of the most sensitive peoples on Earth, it will create a psycho-magnetic field of empathy, which will align the next wave of people in synchrony, everywhere on Earth. This massive, sudden empathic alignment will cause a shift in the consciousness of Earth. (p. 243)

It is essential at the moment of infusion of empathy that you overcome all fear of separation from God. This overcoming of fear in a whole planetary experience is an irresistible force. No being can resist it. (p. 244–245)

The cancer of self-centeredness will be consumed by the experience of wholeness. (p. 245)

At the time of the Quantum Instant there will be a judgment of the quick and the dead. That is, there will be an evolutionary selection process based on your qualifications for co-creative power. (p. 111)

The species known as self-centered humanity will become extinct. The species known as whole-centered humanity will evolve. (p. 111)

After the selection process, you will be born to the next stage of evolution. There will be a New Heaven, a New Earth, a new body and a new consciousness for all who survive. (p. 261)

The New Jerusalem is the new city which emerges naturally from a New Heaven and a New Earth. It is the human community as a collectivity of natural Christs. (p. 258)

I will write upon you my new name, which is not the Master Jesus who went to the cross but the risen Christ who arose from the dead….(p. 115)

Those who choose this version of the future will be there. Those who do not choose it will not be there. Choose well, dearly beloved, choose well. (p. 288)

[b]The Mark of the Beast

[i]And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. – Revelation 13:16-17)

You are to provide the opportunity for a planetary signal wherein each person who chooses life over death can register that decision visibly — a coming to witness before the world. (p. 302)

Each shall be "sealed" with the seal of the living God. This means that they shall be marked, visibly identified, first to themselves, then to others. This means that their inner eye in the forehead will be fully opened by this touch, henceforth awakening them from the womb of self-centeredness. (p. 149)

I will write upon you my new name, which is not the Master Jesus who went to the cross but the risen Christ who arose from the dead, ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of God. (p. 115)

"Those who have the seal of the living God will be able to take the next step of evolution. (p. 150)

Those with the seal of the living God on their foreheads will be with Christ at the time of the Transformation. (p. 190)

This critical mass represents those marked with the seal of the living God on their foreheads. (p. 198)

Undermining Marriage

In the future our partners will be chosen in a much more scientific way, according to Ray quality, karmic relationship, and point in evolution. (Creme, p. 185)

Fidelity of the partners is to each other for the sake of their chosen act, whether it be a godly child or godly work in the universe. When the act is completed, the partnership is renewed if there is more to be done. It is lovingly ended if there is nothing more to be created by that particular couple. Each discovers the next partner, or partners, with no hint of sorrow, for nothing is separated among those totally connected with God. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 166)

No sexual reproductions, only conscious conceptions….(Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 283)

You will choose to create another being only on very special occasions when the whole community of natural Christs sees the requirement. The selection of the individual to be embodied is done by conscious selection. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 165)

Walsch: So are You saying that marriage should go?

"God": I have no preference in the matter….(CWG Book 3, p. 219)

Abstaining From Meats

The defect of carnivorous behavior will gradually be overcome. Eating meat will cease. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," The Revelation, p. 263)

There are two defects from which you suffer, carnivorous behavior and the illusion of separation from God. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 187)

But in the New Age vegetarianism will become the norm. (Creme, p. 194)

Steadfast
05-09-2008, 05:52 PM
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<div align="center">The New Gospel Doctrine of Separation

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Doctrine of Separation

In the "new gospel" scheme of things "love" means seeing yourself and your fellow man as a part of God and "one" with God. "Love" and "oneness" are equated with all of those who confess themselves to be a part of God. "Love" and "oneness" are said to be true perceptions based on right thinking. "Love and "oneness" produce peace, health, and spiritual growth in the "one body" of mankind. They are the ticket to the next spiritual level. "Love" and "oneness" people are those who follow "new gospel" teachings and the "new gospel"

Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man&#39;s sake. —Luke 6:22

God and Christ

In the "new gospel" scheme of things, "fear" means seeing yourself and your fellow man as "separate" and not as a part of God. "Fear" and "separation" are equated with all of those who refuse to see themselves as being a part of God. "Fear" and "separation" are said to be erroneous perceptions based on wrong thinking. "Fear" and "separation" prevent the attainment of peace, produce illness in the body of mankind, and prevent spiritual growth. They are the ticket to the "selection process" because they prevent the "one body" of humanity from advancing to the next spiritual level.

"Fear" and "separation" people are those who oppose "new gospel" teachings and the "new gospel" God and Christ. Traditional Christian believers, by "new gospel" definition, are "fear" and "separation" people.

The "God" and "Christ" of the "new gospel" use these cleverly contrived words and concepts to divide the world into two camps: those who follow them and those who oppose them.

Through the ingenious use of language they make their case and push their position. Always taking the high road of "love" and "oneness" they isolate those who oppose them by branding them as "fearful" and "separate."

The "God" and the "Christ" of the "new gospel" are very adept at never saying traditional Christian believers," but rather say "those who are under the illusion of separation." They do not say "traditional Christianity is evil" or "traditional Christianity is of the devil."

They say "separation is evil" and "separation is of the devil." Instead of saying, traditional Christianity is a crime that must be driven from this world," they state: "The crime of separation must be driven from this world."

Instead of saying, "traditional Christian believers will one day be submitted to the selection process," they state: "All that hinders the manifestation of man&#39;s divinity must be driven from our planet."

How do "God" and "Christ" suggest that Christians, and others under "the illusion of separation," rid themselves of the "fear" that is causing them to feel separate from God? By "atoning" through the "atone-ment" process. That is, by affirming that "all is love" and "all is God" and never forgetting that they are a part of God.

By "new gospel" definition, the only way you can be "loving" and "at-one" with your fellow man is by ultimately pledging allegiance to the doctrine of "oneness." From this perspective you are either a "love" and "oneness" person or you are a "fear" and "separation" person. Your "love" of God is expressed by seeing yourself and others as a part of God, as "one" with God. Your "fear" of God is expressed by seeing yourself and others as not being a part of God, as "separate" from God.

In the "new gospel" future you will live or die based on whether or not you see yourself as a part of God.

If it all sounds kind of backward, that is because it is. It is the language and methodology of the "God" and "Christ" of the "new gospel." And it is the same terminology and methodology being used by their "new gospel" followers. "Oneness" is presented as the inevitable by-product of "love" and as such is like "mom and apple pie." Who could possibly be against "mom and apple pie"?

"Separateness" is regarded as the inevitable by-product of "fear" and as such is like "the Grinch who stole Christmas." Who in their right mind supports "the Grinch who stole Christmas"?

The upshot of this clever conditioning process is to impress people everywhere with the seemingly indisputable contention that if you are against "oneness" you are also against God, Christ, and your fellow man.

Only an ingenious and creatively deceptive spirit world could have thought up such a diabolical way of separating and disparaging Christian believers and others who do not believe they are a part of God.

The Hostile "New Gospel"

It is ironic that "new gospel" advocates present themselves as being so loving, tolerant, and accepting of all major religions. "God" told Neale Donald Walsch, "There are a thousand paths to God, and every one gets you there." But "God" conveniently overlooks telling Walsch&#39;s readers about a detour called the "selection process" for those who insist on being "separate" and "self-centered" — the "shock of a fire" and "a second death" for those who refuse to bow down to the doctrine of "oneness" and the "God" and "Christ" of the "new gospel."

Alice Bailey was told by her spirit guide over fifty years ago that the "Forces of Darkness" would oppose the "new gospel" and the "New Age." These "Forces" are described as being spiritually blind and characterized by "separateness" and "hate."

The Forces of Darkness are powerful energies…They consequently block deliberately the inflow of that which is new and life-giving; they work to prevent the understanding of that which is of the New Age; they endeavor to preserve that which is familiar and old, to counteract the effects of the oncoming culture and civilization, to bring blindness to the peoples and to feed steadily the existing fires of hate, of separateness, of criticism and of cruelty.

"God" warns Walsch about the fearful people who will try to undermine his "magnificent truths" by calling them false, saying they will be "your greatest enemy."

The "new gospel" is anything but loving, tolerant, and accepting towards those who oppose it. The "Christ" of the "new gospel" warns that those who are "fearful" are "separate" and "self-centered." He declares that "separate" and "self-centered" people must ultimately be handed over to the "selection process." He declares that "separate" and "self-centered" people must ultimately be removed from the planet.

Separation Is An Illusion

This is your assignment. This is your work. You are to destroy the illusion of separation. (Walsch&#39;s "God," FWG, p. 21)

Separation Is Not Believing You Are a Part of God

The recognition of God is the recognition of yourself. There is no separation of God and His creation. ("Jesus," ACIM Text, p. 147)

Nothing separates you from Me, and soon many will realise this. I am with you and in you. I seek to express That which I am through you; for this I come. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 22)

Separation is Self-Centeredness

…[T]he fundamental regression is self-centeredness, or the illusion that you are separate from God. I "make war" on self-centeredness. It shall surely be overcome. The child must become the adult. Human must become Divine. That is the law. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 233)

Separation is Not Love

Love is the only way. You cannot gain the next stage of evolution in a self-centered state. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 236)

Separation is Fear

It is essential at the moment of infusion of empathy that you overcome all fear of separation from God. This overcoming of fear in a whole planetary experience is an irresistible force. No being can resist it. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 244–245)

Separation is Hatred

Let us together show the world: that the need for war is past; that the instinct of man is to live and to love; that hatred is begotten of separation…. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 108)

Separation is Evil

Just before the final wave of tribulations — the seven last plagues — those who resist evil, those who are victorious in their struggle against the temptation of separation, stand upon a burning sea of glass. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 201)

Separation is Satan

When at last you see that there is no separation in God&#39;s World — that is, nothing which is not God — then, at last, will you let go of this invention of man which you have called Satan. (Walsch&#39;s "God," CWG Book 3, p. 56)

The mind can make the belief in separation very real and very fearful, and this belief is the "devil." ("Jesus," ACIM Text, p. 50)

Your triumph over Satan, that is, over the illusion of separation, will be a victory for the universal community. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 193)

Separation is Sin

I shall drive from this Earth forever the curse of hatred, the sin of separation. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 104)

Separation is Sickness

A sick person perceives himself as separate from God. Would you see him as separate from you? It is your task to heal the sense of separation that has made him sick. ("Jesus," ACIM Manual, p. 56)

Separation is Lawlessness

The crime of separation, of division, of lawlessness must go from the world. All that hinders the manifestation of man&#39;s divinity must be driven from our planet. My Law will take the place of separation. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 248)

Separation is Crime

The crime of separation must be driven from this world. I affirm that as My Purpose. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 189)

Separation is a "Lack" That Must be Corrected

A sense of separation from God is the only lack you really need correct. ("Jesus," ACIM Text , p. 14)

Steadfast
05-09-2008, 05:59 PM
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<div align="center">The Silent Church</div>

Many Christian believers smirked when Shirley MacLaine stood on the beach in her made-for-TV movie, Out on a Limb, exclaiming, "I am God!" Today, Marianne Williamson exclaims that we are all "God" and is introduced by Tom Brokaw on a prime time NBC special report about September 11 as one of our "religious leaders."

Gary Zukav, a man who personally endorsed the Barbara Marx Hubbard book that describes the "selection process," tells us in his post-September 11 television appearances how we can all spiritually grow and bring peace to the world. And Wayne Dyer, in a post-September 11 PBS fundraising event, stands in an historic New England church and tells his national audience that the world would be a much more peaceful place if everyone adopted the "brilliant" teachings of A Course in Miracles.

Traditional Christian believers frequently mention the analogy of the frog that is so slowly and gradually boiled in a kettle of water that it dies before ever realizing what is going on. Yet many believers fail to realize that the very same thing is happening to them as they tell that story. How else do you explain the rapid rise of the "new gospel" movement with hardly a word of concern within the Church about what&#39;s been happening?

As "new gospel" advocates continue to publish best selling books and flock to the airwaves in ever-increasing numbers to advance their cause, there is a strange silence in Christendom.

And with all of the Holocaust memorials, survivor testimonies, and multitudinous books on the subject, we have done a pretty good job of convincing ourselves that we will never make the same mistakes the German people did in allowing someone like Hitler to rise in their midst.

In the introduction to a 1999 publication (Sixth Pressing) of Hitler&#39;s Mein Kampf, Konrad Heiden describes how everything that Hitler was about to do was telegraphed in his early writings: For years Mein Kampf stood as proof of the blindness and complacency of the world. For in its pages Hitler announced — long before he came to power — a program of blood and terror in a self-revelation of such overwhelming frankness that few among its readers had the courage to believe it. Once again it was demonstrated that there was no more effective method of concealment than the broadest publicity.

Somehow, Christians don&#39;t seem to grasp Jesus&#39; warnings about the tremendous deception that characterizes the time of the end. Perhaps deceived into thinking that we can&#39;t be deceived, we don&#39;t take seriously enough His warnings that a Hitler-like antichrist figure will one day rise to rule the world — and that many people calling themselves "Christians" will support this spiritual counterfeit who will actually come in the name of Christ. Our adversary wants us to believe that these warnings are for another people at another time. Yet through Scripture, and in our heart of hearts, the Spirit of God tells us that they are not.

It is extremely disturbing to see the web site of a Colorado-based Christian leader listed as a recommended resource in the back of a 1998 Barbara Marx Hubbard book entitled Conscious Evolution. It is equally alarming to find out that this individual is also a member of the same World Future Society that lists Barbara Marx Hubbard as one of its co-founding and current board members. And that this respected Christian leader serves as the secretary of a World Future Society subcommittee that once gave Hubbard a special award for her outstanding contributions to the field of religion. But perhaps what is most unbelievable is that the Colorado Springs Christian leadership lets him get away with it. Apparently, being "unequally yoked" with a woman who (at the direction of her "Christ") has "re-written" the Book of Revelation and authored the "selection process" is not a major concern for church leaders — leaders who are actually starting to sound a lot like Hubbard themselves.

Are Christian leaders leading the church ever closer to the cross, or ever closer to the "Planetary Pentecost"? Why is there almost no call for spiritual discernment within the Church (except to warn believers not to be deceived into doubting their appointed Christian leaders)?

My comment: Why are so many religious organzations NGOs with the United Nations?

Why are there so few warnings about a counterfeit "new gospel" movement that maligns the person of Jesus Christ and threatens the lives of His followers?

Why are Christians only being prepared for blessings and not for persecution?

What in the world is going on?

Expecting only revival and the return of the true Christ, will the Church be deceived by the one who will come in the name of Christ and pretend to be Him?

Caught unawares, will the Church mistake the counterfeit Christ&#39;s "Planetary Pentecost" for the great "move of God" they had been told to expect?

Are we getting set up for the great delusion described in the Bible?

The prophet Daniel makes mention of the God of "forces" in conjunction with antichrist (Daniel 11:38).

The "God" of the "new gospel" asks Neale Donald Walsch, "What if I am not a &#39;man&#39; at all, but rather, a Force?" The "Christ" of A Course in Miracles states that there is an "irresistible Force" within each person. Marianne Williamson explains that this "universal force" can be "activated" within each person and has "the power to make all things right."

The "new gospel Christ" tells Barbara Marx Hubbard that on the day of "Planetary Pentecost" a "planetary smile" will flash across the face of all mankind; that an "uncontrollable joy" that he describes as the "joy of the force" will "ripple" through the one body of humanity. Benjamin Crème describes the event "as a pentecostal experience for all." The "Christ" of A Course in Miracles tells how the world ends in "peace" and "laughter."

Have we prayed to God that we would not be deluded or deceived?

Were we already witnessing the great "falling away" predicted in the Bible? Was the "mystery of iniquity" talked about in the Scriptures already doing its deceptive work with "all power and signs and lying wonders"…? Would people calling themselves Christians abandon their faith in the Bible and the Bible&#39;s Christ?

Would they join an ecumenical movement that in the name of love and God and unity would sacrifice the truth of the Bible and perhaps one day merge with the new age itself?

The God of Forces

But in his estate shall he [antichrist] honour the God of forces. – Daniel 11:38

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Many around Me now have recognized Me, work with Me and channel My Force. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 262)

You cannot do it by human will and desire alone. You are to be empowered by the force that creates the universe. ("Christ," Revelation, p. 94)

You are letting the force be with you! And that is good. That is very good. For as you move into the next millennium, you will plant the seeds of the greatest growth the world has ever seen. ("God," FWG, p. 295)

Many now are awake to these divine aspects, and call for the restructuring of your world. My Force is behind them. (Maitreya, Messages, p. 276)

What if I am not a "man" at all, but rather, a Force, an "Energy" in the universe, that IS the universe, and that is, in fact, All That Is. What if I am The Collective? ("God," CWG Book 3, p. 325)

Walsch: "May the force be with you.

"God": Precisely. Do you think George Lucas came up with that by accident? (FWG, p. 228)

[Instant of] Co-operation does not mean being nice to each other…. It means cooperating with God. It means co-evolving with me. Yet within you is a Force that no illusions can resist. …[T]his Force is irresistible in truth. ("Jesus," ACIM Text, p. 479 )

According to "new gospel" advocates what the orthodox theologian and the narrow doctrinaire have to offer no longer satisfies the intelligent seeker or suffices to answer his questions; he is shifting his allegiances into wider and more spiritual areas. He is moving out from under doctrinal authority into direct personal, spiritual experience and coming under the direct authority, which contact with Christ and His disciples, the Masters, gives. —Alice A. Bailey

Now, an international grassroots movement —made up of people from all religions and no religions — is gathering in spirit to forge an experience of universal oneness. This experience — unorganized, spontaneous, international, and inspired — will ultimately join all hearts. —Marianne Williamson

On the Day of Declaration, I submit, everyone — even the fundamentalists — will know,through the overshadowing of the minds of all humanity — a pentecostal experience for all — that Maitreya is the Christ. —Benjamin Crème

In the twinkling of an eye, we are all changed by this experience. It is a mass metanoia, a shared spiritual experience for the human race, a peaceful second coming of the divine in us as us. —Barbara Marx Hubbard

A universal theology is impossible, but a universal experience is not only possible but necessary. ("Jesus," ACIM Manual, p. 77)

Truth can only be experienced. It cannot be described and it cannot be explained. ("Jesus," ACIM Text, p. 150)

Words will mean little now. We use them but as guides on which we do not now depend. For now we seek direct experience of truth alone. ("Jesus," ACIM Workbook, p. 398)

Listen to your feelings. Listen to your Highest Thoughts. Listen to your experience. Whenever any one of these differ from what you&#39;ve been told by your teachers, or read in your books, forget the words. Words are the least reliable purveyor of Truth. (Walsch&#39;s "God," CWG Book 1, p. 8)

I am leading you to a new kind of experience that you will become less and less willing to deny. ("Jesus," ACIM Text, p. 207)

…I do not want you to believe in me, or not to believe in me, I want you to experience me. (Maitreya, MM: Vol. 2, p. 9)

This wedding takes place between me — Christ — and all humans who are willing it with their whole being now. Through this marriage you experience the ecstasy of union with me. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 294-295).

The Master is within you. If you follow the disciplines of life the Teacher teaches you, the Master reveals himself within you. Do not be attached to the human form. The living truth is a matter of experience. (Maitreya, ETEB, p. 56)

Steadfast
05-09-2008, 06:08 PM
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<div align="center">The Final Word</div>

Recently, while visiting a country store I discovered a small yellow book almost hidden on a back shelf. It was entitled TheWorst-Case Scenario Survival Handbook. I picked up a copy and glanced through the book. Throughout the guide, the importance of "expecting the unexpected" and of "being prepared" were continually emphasized. Every other page seemed to teach the reader how to survive some new kind of highly precarious, worst-case scenario. How to escape from killer bees; how to survive a poisonous snake attack, how to survive an earthquake, how to escape from a mountain lion, how to survive if your parachute fails to open. The list went on and on. Under the Boy Scout motto of "Be prepared," I read the first sentence of the authors&#39; preface: The principle behind this book is a simple one: You just never know.

...and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedest, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan? —Jeremiah 12:5

I continued reading. You never really know what curves life will throw at you, what is lurking around the corner, what is hovering above, what is swimming beneath the surface. You never know when you might be called upon to perform an act of extreme bravery and to choose life or death with your own actions. As I stood there reading I thought of September 11.

These tragic events had revealed just how unprepared we were as a nation for the worst-case type scenarios that suddenly exploded in New York City, Washington, D.C. and the Pennsylvania countryside. It was reported that those whose job it is to foresee such things grossly underestimated our adversaries. They had never even considered, much less prepared for, those kinds of situations. We had been caught unawares.

But now, in the aftermath of the disasters, we are more vigilant. We are not minimizing or denying the potential for danger. We are anticipating our adversaries as never before. And we are preparing in advance for these kinds of worst-case scenarios.

Is Jesus the only one warning us that our spiritual adversaries want to steal our faith and forever silence our testimony? Is Jesus the only one who is warning us to beware of insidious spiritual schemes like the "Armageddon alternative" that offers "world peace" in exchange for your soul? Is Jesus the only one willing to warn us about things like the "selection process" and that we may have to die for what we believe — that we had better be open to the possibility that our worst-case scenario may already be on its way?

These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me. But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. – John 16:1–4

How fortunate we are to have a Saviour who doesn&#39;t just tell us what we want to hear, but tells us what we need to hear, and must hear, so that we will be prepared for any persecution that might come our way; especially so that we will not be caught unawares by any of our adversary&#39;s schemes and devices.

As I finished looking through TheWorst-Case Scenario Survival Handbook, I thought of the "new gospel" and of all the people who will one day be deceived into thinking that antichrist is Christ. If I was the author I would add one more scenario to my practical book: "How to discern the difference between the coming of Christ and the coming of antichrist." I would warn of the dangers of the "new gospel" and the "new gospel" Christ. Why? Because you just never know.

Jesus Tells It Like It Is

Jesus Christ tells it like it is. He warns that danger and death and spiritual deception will characterize the time of the end. And at that time a spiritual imposter will come and convince the world that he is Christ. What will look like a great "move of God" will not be a move of God at all. Jesus tells us in Matthew 24:24 that "great signs and wonders" will accompany this deceiver — and the world will be conquered super-naturally by seemingly "wonderful" schemes and devices (2 Thessalonians 2:9–11; Daniel 8:24).

Jesus warns that this false "Christ" will be so deceptive that, if it were possible, even the elect will be deceived (Mark 14:22).

Twenty years ago I was very involved with A Course in Miracles and "new age/new gospel" teachings. I wanted peace in my life and I wanted to help bring peace to the world. I truly thought I had found the way to do it. Without the Lord&#39;s intervention, I would probably still be following those teachings. And if that were the case, I would most likely be applauding Marianne Williamson and The Global Renaissance Alliance instead of now warning people about them. I was sincere, but I was sincerely wrong. And so are they.

The "new gospel" is not from God.

The amazing thing is that two thousand years ago Jesus Christ warned us about everything that is going on today. He told us this was going to happen and that we had better be ready. But the Church today is not ready. Ignorant of our adversary&#39;s schemes, we are missing our opportunities to expose these false teachings to a lost and dying world. Ignorant of our adversary&#39;s schemes, we don&#39;t contend for our faith because we don&#39;t even realize that someone is trying to steal our faith away from us. Ignorant of our adversary&#39;s schemes, we have become vulnerable to those schemes.

I have tried as best I could to present an overview of the accelerated spiritual deception that has moved into the world over the last quarter century: how the spirit world&#39;s deception has been purposeful, consistent and highly coordinated in the ways it has presented its "new gospel" teachings and its "new gospel" Christ; how these teachings have deceived many well-intentioned people into following and furthering its cause; how this deception fulfills the prophetic warnings contained in Scripture; how The Global Renaissance Alliance is a sign of the times as "new gospel" advocates begin to present a more united spiritual and political front; and how key members of this organization are now being called upon by the media, in the midst of crisis, to provide spiritual answers to a vulnerable nation.

I have also tried to demonstrate how hostile this false Christ is toward the real Jesus Christ and toward all believers. It must be remembered that were this false Christ to soon appear on Earth, his counterfeiting of the true Christ&#39;s coming would necessarily include counterfeiting the judgment that the Bible describes as coming with Jesus Christ (Jude 14–15; 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9).

Citing Scripture, the false Christ could immediately pronounce judgment on all those who "choose" to be "separate" and refuse to affirm or "experience" themselves as "a part of God." In "the twinkling of an eye," as the rest of the world is being demonically "changed" and "glorified," believers may have to face something like the "selection process."

As someone who came out of "new age/new gospel" teachings, I have been deeply saddened by the apathy about what is going on. Christian "leadership" has largely ignored and discounted the prophetic significance of the "new gospel" deception that is so prevalent all around us.

Jesus was honest and straightforward with everyone. Jesus did not try to please them. He said if the world called him "Beelzebub" or "Satan" it would call His followers "Beelzebub" and "Satan," too (Matthew 10:25). He said that because the world hated and persecuted Him, it would hate and persecute His followers, also. And He said that following Him — particularly in the end days — could very well mean the loss of your life.

Jesus simply told it like it was. And he was not at all amused when followers like Peter tried to minimize or discount or deny the things he was telling them. The Bible records in Matthew 16:21–23 that Jesus told his disciples that the world was about to kill him, but that he would be raised again on the third day. Peter, refusing to believe the Lord&#39;s words, "rebuked" him and insisted instead that what Jesus was telling them would not come to pass. Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

Completely unmoved by Peter&#39;s attempt to put a "positive spin" on things, Jesus addressed the spirit that was motivating Peter&#39;s denial. Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offense unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

And the Lord is saying the same thing now to those in the Church who refuse to see what is going on in the world today. God is not in the process of giving the Church "new revelation" that will supersede what He has already given us in His holy Word. He is not in the process of bringing a "new thing" into the Church. He is not in the process of taking His Church to a "new place" or to a "new dimension" or to a "new level." He is not in the process of bringing in a "new dispensation." And He most certainly is not in the process of introducing a "new gospel" that contradicts in word and spirit everything He has ever taught us about our life in Christ. No, these are the plans of antichrist, and the Church had better beware.

God&#39;s message today is loud and clear. This is not a time for celebration. This is not a time for the church to be expecting some kind of a special blessing. This is a time to be sober and vigilant. This is a time to watch and pray. This is a time to be spiritually prepared. This is a time to be warning your brothers and sisters and family and friends about what is happening in the world.

Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. – 1 Peter 5:8–9

When storms with the potential to kill are just offshore, reasonable people make reasonable preparations. They don&#39;t party in the face of the impending danger. They don&#39;t sit on their front porches pretending that nothing is happening. Jesus warned in Scripture that storms would come. He particularly warned about those that would come at the end of time. He wasn&#39;t being negative. He wasn&#39;t trying to scare us. He was telling us these things ahead of time so that we would be prepared; so that we would not be deceived, nor intimidated, nor frightened into compromising or questioning our faith.

Jesus said that if we listened to His words and applied them to our lives, that our faith would withstand any storm. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. (Matthew 7:24–25)

Jesus&#39; warnings in Matthew 24 and in the Bible&#39;s Book of Revelation are echoed throughout the Bible. He warns of a great deception at the end of time and He tells us to "be not deceived." He tells us these things in advance so that whether it is the "new gospel" movement&#39;s "selection process" with its "shock of a fire," or something else, we will not be surprised or think it strange. Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ&#39;s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. (1 Peter 4:12)

After Jesus rebuked Peter for not believing what He was telling them about His own death, He reminded His disciples that in following Him they would be subject to the same forces and the same kind of death. Following Him was a serious matter and counting the cost was part of the faith. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? (Matthew 16:24–26)

There is a new world order and a new world religion coming with a false "Christ" at its head. Characterized by mass "enlightenment" and under the spell of this false Christ, humanity will be under "the great delusion" that it is divine. While the Bible describes this "new age" as a period of ultimate deception, the world will see it as a time of peace and safety, and a spiritual renaissance of the highest order. But they will be deeply deceived: For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. (1 Thessalonians 5:3)

The Coming Of Antichrist

Matthew 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

Mark 13:21–23 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

2 Thessalonians 2:1–4 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

2 Thessalonians 2:9–11 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

1 John 4:1–3 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Revelation 13:16–18 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

False Teachings

A truth hard for the orthodox thinker of any faith to accept is the fact that Christ cannot return because He has always been here upon our Earth, watching over the spiritual destiny of humanity…. (Bailey, Reappearance, p. 43)

Make known to all that I am here, that I am returned and prepare men for the Day of Declaration, the day of God&#39;s Gift….(Maitreya, Messages, p. 52)

(Q) [to Creme] Did He just sort of appear somewhere?

(A) No. He came into the world by aeroplane and so fulfilled the prophecy of "coming in the clouds." On July 8th 1977 He descended from the Himalaya into the Indian sub-continent and went to one of the chief cities there. He had an acclimatisation period between July 8th and 18th, and then, on the 19th, entered a certain modern country by aeroplane. He is now an ordinary man in the world — an extraordinary, ordinary man. (Creme, p. 55)

On July 19th 1977 He implemented the third phase — His direct physical Presence in the world…. He will be seen and known by all when He reveals that Presence to the waiting world. This will take place when enough people are responding to the Teaching and energies which are emanating from His undisclosed point of focus in the modern world; and when the new direction which humanity must take has already begun to be established. Men must desire these changes for themselves; and begin implementing them of their own free will — thus showing they are ready for the new Revelation and Teaching which He brings. (Creme, p. 36)

Selected Examples Of False Teachings Regarding Jesus&#39; Return

When enough people are responding to His teaching He will allow Himself to be discovered. They will go back to their countries and say that the Christ is in the world, and that you should look to that country from which a certain Teaching is emanating. This will draw the attention of the media of the world to that country, and hence to Him. He will acknowledge His true Status as the Christ and will be invited to speak to the world. (Creme, p. 51)

As the Planetary Smile ripples through the nervous systems of earth and the Instant of Co-operation begins, empathy floods the feelings of the whole body of Earth, separateness is overcome, and I appear to all of you at once. I appear to you from within as a voice, and as a vision of yourself as an evolving being. I appear to you from beyond as the light being that I now am. Your electronic media will pulse with light — the same light your mystics see. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 245)

Each shall be "sealed" with the seal of the living God. This means that they shall be marked, visibly identified, first to themselves, then to others. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 149)

You are to be transported to the new Jerusalem….You will be "taken up" at the appropriate time…. What does "taken up" mean? It is a complex transformation. You enter a state of universal consciousness…. In this state of God-centered bliss, you are physically awakened by an inner electricity that changes the frequency of the atoms in your body…. Due to the God-centered awareness and the physical transfiguration, your brain/body "ascends" to the next level of being. (Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," Revelation, p. 270)

Shortly before this manuscript was to be sent off to the printer, I discovered a new book by Neale Donald Walsch at the local bookstore. It is entitled Honest to God: A Change of Heart That Can Change the World. It is co-authored by Dr. Brad Blanton, the author of the national bestseller, Radical Honesty. On the back cover of their book I read the following: Nobody tells the truth about anything anymore. Not anything important.

Everybody&#39;s lying to everybody else, and everybody knows it…. This book shows the absolute necessity for individual and social transformation and the absolute necessity for honesty in order to bring it about.

Using the events of September 11, 2001 as a backdrop, the book emphasizes the need for "radical honesty" in government and calls for an across-the-board implementation of new, radical leadership in all spheres of society. The authors propose that this leadership be based upon the single organizing principle of "oneness." They believe that a collective adoption of the "oneness" principle could heal the "terrible feeling of fear, loss of security and tragedy that the human race is enduring."

Walsch states: What I&#39;m proclaiming is that we could put an end to all of this with a single idea, and in my articulation that is called "oneness." What we need is oneness now everywhere; In our politics, in our economics, in our education, in our religion. We must change ourselves. We must change the beliefs upon which our behaviors are based. We must create a different reality, build a new society….

We must do so with new spiritual truths. We must preach a new gospel, its healing message summarized in two sentences: We are all one. Ours is not a better way, ours is merely another way.

Both authors agree that "radical honesty" means "being willing to tell the truth to everyone about everything." Walsch adds: Most politicians don&#39;t lie by commission. Some do, but not most. Most lie by omission. It is not what they say that is untruthful; it was what they fail to say that creates what they call "wiggle room" (read "untruth").

With an eye toward September 11, "radical honesty," and a new leadership based on the "new gospel" principle of "oneness," Walsch and Blanton propose the idea of a "new gospel" think tank that would be comprised of "oneness" advocates from all fields and endeavors of American society. Forming their own unique "kitchen cabinet" they would make recommendations for policy and leadership to the rest of the country. So we become a sort of kitchen cabinet of leaders to select the leadership for ourselves. We focus all of our attention on the leaders who can do the best job of articulating to the masses the possibility of making it all up differently. They agree that while the cabinet would represent the idea of team leadership, the group would still have to have a "president" who would act as the primary "spokesperson" for the rest of the team. Someone who could effectively present the "new gospel" principles of "oneness" while uniting the country. Walsch and Blanton comment:

Blanton: What if we got together this group of people, and we say we&#39;re willing to serve in these various appointed capacities, and that we&#39;re going to be interviewing candidates and select one to be spokesperson for this value? We start interviewing people who want to run for president, and people we would like to see run. I like Oprah.

Walsch: I&#39;ll tell you one thing, if Oprah didn&#39;t want to run for President I&#39;d suggest Marianne Williamson, because she has the ability to articulate very important ideas very quickly, in a moment, with twenty-five words or less…. Barbara Marx Hubbard needs to be in that group, too. In the cabinet.

Walsch and Blanton seem to have great fun as they verbally romp through the possibilities for radical change in the political landscape. Yet they seem to be quite serious about what they are proposing. I am not a political analyst, but one has to wonder if Walsch and Blanton are actually sending up trial balloons for the next presidential election. Barbara Marx Hubbard had her name placed in nomination for Vice-President at the National Democratic Convention in 1984. What about Oprah for President? Or Marianne Williamson? Or Barbara Marx Hubbard? Or some other "new gospel" candidate?

Through this book, are these men attempting to create a new political reality by introducing an idea that could rally the masses and soon have a life of its own? The longer name for it [OnenessNow, ed.] is Oneness Now Everywhere, which is O-N-E, of course. Bumper stickers and window stickers are being manufactured even as we sit here and speak. We&#39;re inviting people all over the world to join Oneness Now by going to www.onenessnow.com. (Walsch, p. 208)

We&#39;ll also be networking with others, connecting people who believe in this concept with like-minded groups and organizations, such as the Global Renaissance Alliance (RenaissanceAlliance.com) and your own nation whose borders are the atmosphere of the earth, the United States of Being (usob.org). (Walsch, p. 209)

The first step is for you to log on to www.changeofheart.biz and pick up the information that we&#39;ll continually make available there. This site will be where we organize the selection and volunteering of compassionate leaders to be the cabinet for a candidate for the presidential elections in 2004. It will also be where we track the conversation about actions we can all take to create unity in the world. (Blanton, p. 209)

Our objective is to organize a new government for a new nation, to be built first in our imaginations and in cyberspace after we sign up as citizens by signing the new Declaration of Independence. We then intend to grow larger as a political force in the current structure at the same time we model a new one, and then take over increasingly the actual functions of government. We call our new country the United States of Being and we intend it to be based on the sovereignty of the individual, rather than the sovereignty of the king, or the sovereignty of representatives. (Walsch and Blanton, p. 212)

Steadfast
05-09-2008, 06:17 PM
<div align="center">Chapter 12</div>
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<div align="center">Epilogue</div>


Anyone can see why Walsch and others would love to have someone like Oprah as the standard bearer for their "new gospel" movement. This beloved talk show host is revered and respected by millions. She seems compassionate, caring, and, above all else, impeccably honest. Her candidacy would give immediate credibility to the "new gospel" campaign for radical change. Her suggestions and recommendations have already been adopted by countless numbers of trusting viewers. Most Americans see Oprah as an "open" person.

They have no idea how heavily aligned she is with "new gospel" leaders and "new gospel" thought. And while Winfrey and others on the "new gospel" team may be sincere and honest in their intentions, one has to wonder how "radically honest" Walsch is when he talks about the future. He enthusiastically proposes Barbara Marx Hubbard for the "cabinet" position of Secretary of the Future, but mentions nothing to his readers about the "selection process" described in her book, The Revelation. This is by Walsch&#39;s own definition a "lie by omission."

How can someone advocating "radical honesty" not disclose to his readers that those who refuse to go along with the "new gospel" of "oneness" will one day be banished from humanity and removed from the planet? The answer is because it is not "good politics" to reveal this information at this time. "Love" and "oneness" sound much better than a "selection process" with its "shock of a fire." Walsch&#39;s decision to withhold this information from his readers is hardly the "whole truth, nothing but the truth," "honest to God" forthrightness that he is preaching to everyone else.

Whatever the case, this recent book clearly demonstrates that "new gospel" advocates are very serious about politicizing their "new gospel" spirituality and will continue to be a force to contend with during these deceptive and perilous times.

May we all pray for the truth in our heart of hearts and ask the Lord to lead us through these difficult and turbulent times. May we not be deceived by a spirit and a "Force" that is not from God. And may we be given the strength to endure whatever may befall us in the coming days, in Jesus&#39; name. Amen.

Steadfast
05-09-2008, 06:23 PM
Dear Friends,

For those of you who chose to read this book to its conclusion, I hope you see the continuity of the one-world religion – one world government message. Benjamin Crème&#39;s Maitreya is tight with the United Nations. It also has been said that Crème himself is a Jesuit. Will there only be one Maitreya? Perhaps, but there is also another claiming this office, who says he is of the lineage and family of David and has the DNA to prove it.

All the supernatural manifestations mentioned in this book could be real, demonic activity or the ruse of Satan by technological displays of the one world government meant to deceive humanity into accepting this Satanic kingdom.

It makes it imperative to know if WT is still an NGO with the UN.

So many Christian evangelists are preaching pre-trib rapture. (The author of this book believes in a pretrib rapture himself.) These 32nd degree Freemason wolves in sheep&#39;s clothing will stop at nothing to slaughter their sheep. This is why I have spent so much time trying to search out the timing of the first resurrection and the return of the True Christ. The false christ comes on the scene at the beginning of the great tribulation, while the True Christ returns as the end of the tribulation.

Even the WT has deceived the congregations with falsehood concerning the awarding of the talents, the return of Christ, and the setting up of the Kingdom.

I believe at present that this false, Satanic christ is the image/mark of the beast. –Revelation 13. The way things are shaping up, this mark must be religious in nature to cause such offense to God Almighty that his Son will destroy all who take it at Armageddon.

How crafty is Satan? Many will be deceived by this false messiah/s. It&#39;s important that we make sure of all things so we will not be led astray.

Keep on the watch. :)

Love,

Steadfast

Jinnvisible
05-09-2008, 06:47 PM
No doubt the Matrietywotnot messiah is false. No doubt the attempt to spread false ideas will have an expression under the initial phases. However these one world religion ideas are not so different from present false religions in that they are just false notions.

I don`t believe overall the dominance of the One world government is going to be determined by how clever and sneaky false religious doctrine is.

<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE(Steadfast @ May 9 2008, 06:23 PM) 15928</div><div class=\'quotemain\'>I believe at present that this false, Satanic christ is the image/mark of the beast. –Revelation 13. The way things are shaping up, this mark must be religious in nature to cause such offense to God Almighty that his Son will destroy all who take it at Armageddon.[/b][/quote]

The scriptures indicate that the worship of the dominant OWG itself is through economic mechanisms, not specifically religious ones. For instance today you might suggest that Islam, Christendom are the large world religions but in truth ca money is proberbly the world biggest false religion. Purley because people care so much about it in thier hearts. The heart is what God examines. It doesn`t matter so much whether men term what they care about religion or finance or power, God sees the heart.

The mark is written as being specifically conected with buying and selling and is the name of the `name` of the beast. To eat on the basis of the name of an idol is determined as worship. As the beast is written as compelling people to recieve the mark and all people need to eat to survive what do you imagine is the most direct way of subjugating the inhabited earth to one form of worship ? Through doctrinal trickery ? or Breakfast ?

<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE(Steadfast @ May 9 2008, 06:23 PM) 15928</div><div class=\'quotemain\'>How crafty is Satan? Many will be deceived by this false messiah/s. It&#39;s important that we make sure of all things so we will not be led astray.[/b][/quote]


The obvious concern being that you might incline yourself to believe that you will be able to out manuvere the method of evil dominance simply by adodpting correct theologies. That is a good attitude to have initself, however you may need to think about trying to find yourself some food and water also.

Eli&#39;s Foe
05-09-2008, 07:25 PM
No doubt the Matrietywotnot messiah is false. No doubt the attempt to spread false ideas will have an expression under the initial phases. However these one world religion ideas are not so different from present false religions in that they are just false notions.

I don`t believe overall the dominance of the One world government is going to be determined by how clever and sneaky false religious doctrine is.

<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE(Steadfast @ May 9 2008, 06:23 PM) 15928<div class=\'quotemain\'>I believe at present that this false, Satanic christ is the image/mark of the beast. –Revelation 13. The way things are shaping up, this mark must be religious in nature to cause such offense to God Almighty that his Son will destroy all who take it at Armageddon.[/b][/quote]

The scriptures indicate that the worship of the dominant OWG itself is through economic mechanisms, not specifically religious ones. For instance today you might suggest that Islam, Christendom are the large world religions but in truth ca money is proberbly the world biggest false religion. Purley because people care so much about it in thier hearts. The heart is what God examines. It doesn`t matter so much whether men term what they care about religion or finance or power, God sees the heart.

The mark is written as being specifically conected with buying and selling and is the name of the `name` of the beast. To eat on the basis of the name of an idol is determined as worship. As the beast is written as compelling people to recieve the mark and all people need to eat to survive what do you imagine is the most direct way of subjugating the inhabited earth to one form of worship ? Through doctrinal trickery ? or Breakfast ?

<div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE(Steadfast @ May 9 2008, 06:23 PM) 15928</div><div class=\'quotemain\'>How crafty is Satan? Many will be deceived by this false messiah/s. It&#39;s important that we make sure of all things so we will not be led astray.[/b][/quote]


The obvious concern being that you might incline yourself to believe that you will be able to out manuvere the method of evil dominance simply by adodpting correct theologies. That is a good attitude to have initself, however you may need to think about trying to find yourself some food and water also.
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Hey Jinn,

just a brotherly tip, but if you cut and paste this post into MS Word, you will find that it has a very handy feature which includes an English grammar and spelling check.

Agape,

EF

Jinnvisible
05-09-2008, 08:43 PM
Yes its a bit embarassing really. I came to the conclusion that apart from having bad gramma I am slightly dislexic. I had to program an office blocks phone numbers as a comms tech. I virtually stoped thier buissiness and when I had to correct my mistakes I couldn`t see them. Someone else helped me and I found that I couldn`t recognise certain series of numbers if they were reversed. I use Ms Word for posting on the forum sometimes with a sopell check but it does wierd things to the fonts. They refuse to change and the sizing and color tags keep appearing. sometimes the spellings of small four letter words escape me like `when`. I just get stuck for some reason. Thanks anyaway.

Sorry for the hijack steadfast, back to the key issue.

TheCook
05-10-2008, 12:19 AM
Yes its a bit embarassing really. I came to the conclusion that apart from having bad gramma I am slightly dislexic. I had to program an office blocks phone numbers as a comms tech. I virtually stoped thier buissiness and when I had to correct my mistakes I couldn`t see them. Someone else helped me and I found that I couldn`t recognise certain series of numbers if they were reversed. I use Ms Word for posting on the forum sometimes with a sopell check but it does wierd things to the fonts. They refuse to change and the sizing and color tags keep appearing. sometimes the spellings of small four letter words escape me like `when`. I just get stuck for some reason. Thanks anyaway.

Sorry for the hijack steadfast, back to the key issue.[/b]

The latest version of the internet browser Mozilla Firefox has a built-in spell check for all text boxes like this one. Just right-click in the window where you type in your reply and choose &#39;Spell check this field&#39;.

stayawake
05-10-2008, 01:45 PM
Yes its a bit embarassing really. I came to the conclusion that apart from having bad gramma I am slightly dislexic. I had to program an office blocks phone numbers as a comms tech. I virtually stoped thier buissiness and when I had to correct my mistakes I couldn`t see them. Someone else helped me and I found that I couldn`t recognise certain series of numbers if they were reversed. I use Ms Word for posting on the forum sometimes with a sopell check but it does wierd things to the fonts. They refuse to change and the sizing and color tags keep appearing. sometimes the spellings of small four letter words escape me like `when`. I just get stuck for some reason. Thanks anyaway.

Sorry for the hijack steadfast, back to the key issue.[/b]

stayawake
05-10-2008, 01:54 PM
I just have to jump in here for a minute
Please Jinn never be embarresed at your gramma or spelling
If some one would know me they would run for the hills ,Its not only my gramma , but I can&#39;t see for spelling ,and even if I could I am sure there would be a lot of errors.
I can&#39;t even see the spell check, so when I post I am forever going back into edit.
Just wanted you to know your not alone.

billy
05-10-2008, 11:57 PM
<div align="center">Chapter 2

<div align="center">Barbara Marx Hubbard and the Revelation</div>

Miracle Worker

To become a miracle worker means to take part in a spiritual underground that&#39;s revitalizing the world, participating in a revolution of the world&#39;s values at the deepest possible level. That doesn&#39;t mean you announce this to anyone. (p. 68)

For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. —2 Peter 1:16

Self-described futurist and "conscious evolutionist" Barbara Marx Hubbard writes that in 1966 she heard an "inner voice" that came in response to a question she had asked aloud and directed to God — "What is our story? What in our age is comparable to the birth of Christ?" After asking the question she said she fell into a dreamlike state and was given an intense vision of the future. In the vision Hubbard saw the earth from a distance. She was made to understand that the earth was a living body and that she was a cell in its body. Feeling her "oneness" with the earth, she experienced its pain and confusion. When her vision abruptly fast-forwarded into the future, she could see the earth and its people were now surrounded by a radiant light. She watched as the whole planet was "aligned" in "a magnetic field of love" and lifted up by the brilliant light. Widespread healings took place as individuals experienced the merging of their own "inner light" with the bright light that was surrounding them. A tremendous force emanating from the light sent powerful currents of joyful energy "rippling" through the body of humanity. The world celebrated as all the Earth was born again. The pain and confusion were gone. Love had prevailed. The "inner voice" told her to spread the message of the vision.

It said: Our story is a birth. It is the birth of humankind as one body. What Christ and all great beings came to Earth to reveal is true. We are one body, born into this universe. GO TELL THE STORY OF OUR BIRTH…

In 1977 Hubbard began to hear this "inner voice" regularly. At one point she was told: Have utter faith in my design. Achieve deep peace. Be prepared for a great force to enter your life to do this work. It cannot enter till you have achieved deep peace. Your reward for peace, which can only be achieved by faith, is contact with the great force and the other forces waiting in the wings.

On Christmas Day in 1979, she had a revelation that the presence in her 1966 vision had been "Christ." Then in February of 1980, at an Episcopalian monastery in Santa Barbara, California, she describes how in the midst of "an electrifying presence of light" her higher self "voice" transformed into the "Christ voice." Over the coming months the "Christ voice" gave her more information and insight about the vision she had in 1966 and more first-hand detail about what would one day be taking place in the world. Hubbard understood that it was her mission to continue telling the story of humanity&#39;s "birth."

Since 1966 Hubbard has fulfilled her commission from "Christ" to tell his "new gospel" story. From NASA to the former USSR, from the Georgia State Legislature to the United Nations, she has spoken to thousands of people and hundreds of groups and organizations about the "planetary birth experience" she had been shown in her vision. In the process she has become a respected "world citizen," known and loved by many for her insights about "God" and "Christ" and the future of humanity.

Hubbard is a co-founding board member of the World Future Society. In 1976 she seriously contemplated a run for the U.S. presidency. In 1984 her name was placed in nomination for Vice-President at the Democratic National Convention in San Francisco. Her speech, based on her "Campaign for a Positive Future," was carried live on C-Span. Today she is on a first name basis with many world leaders and proudly describes herself as part of "the New Order of the Future." Her last three books were funded by her "benefactor," Laurance S. Rockefeller, through his Fund for the Enhancement of the Human Spirit. She thanks Rockefeller in her books for his generous support over the years. And she specifically thanks him for his "intuition about the &#39;Christ of the 21st Century&#39;."

The Alternative to Armageddon

Through the years Hubbard has received voluminous information from her "Christ." In her 1993 book, The Revelation: Our Crisis Is a Birth (later renamed The Revelation: A Message of Hope for the New Millennium), Hubbard and "Christ" "rewrite" the Bible&#39;s Book of Revelation.

In The Revelation Hubbard&#39;s "Christ" provides specific instructions on how a united humanity, purposefully partnering with God, can literally re-create the future. Hubbard&#39;s Christ teaches that the "violent" Armageddon script described in the Bible does not have to happen, that it is only a "possible" future, emphasizing that a more "positive" future can and will manifest when humanity — without exception — openly declares its "oneness" with him and all creation. This positive scenario and the means to attaining it is called "the alternative to Armageddon."

Hubbard&#39;s "Christ" describes how planet Earth is at an evolutionary crossroads. He states that the world is about to make an evolutionary leap that will take all creation to a new level. Those who awaken to their own divinity, by aligning themselves as one with God and one with each other, will evolve. Those who continue to believe in "fear" and "separation," rather than in "love" and "oneness," will not evolve. Hubbard&#39;s "Christ" claims that with his help most of mankind will choose to evolve, calling this evolutionary leap "the Planetary Birth Experience."

He refers to it as the coming time of "Planetary Pentecost." The "birth experience" is a shared event in the future, an "Instant of Co-operation," when everyone on the planet will be mysteriously changed in "the twinkling of an eye," as humanity is collectively born again into a new creation. Those who evolve will actually become a new species as Homo sapiens is collectively transformed into Homo universalis, or the "Universal Humanity."

The "Universal Humanity" will live together as a community of "natural Christs" in the "New Heaven" on the "New Earth" that is the "New Jerusalem."

The "Selection Process"

But Hubbard&#39;s "Christ," while describing the "birth experience" and affirming his love for all mankind, nevertheless warns that there will be no place in the "New Jerusalem" for those who refuse to see themselves and others as a part of God. He describes, therefore, the necessity of a "selection process" that will select out resistant individuals who "choose" not to evolve. This "selection process" is a "purification" that will be accomplished through "the shock of a fire."

"Christ" states that those who see themselves as "separate" and not divine hinder humanity&#39;s ability to spiritually evolve. Those who deny their own "divinity" are "cancer cells" in the body of God.

"Christ" warns that a healthy body must have no cancer cells. Cancer cells must be healed or completely removed from the body. He describes the means of removal as the "selection process." The "selection process" results in the deaths of those who refuse to see themselves as a part of God. After the "selection process" the spirit bodies of the departed individuals will continue to be "purified" in the spirit realm.

Hubbard&#39;s "Christ" emphasizes that they will not be given another physical body and they will not be able to rejoin humanity until they rid themselves of all "self-centeredness." He defines "self-centeredness" as "the illusion" that one is "separate" from God. The self-centered temptation to see oneself as "separate," and not as a part of God, is "evil" and must be "overcome." He also refers to self-centeredness, or this illusion of separateness, as "Satan."

In the future described by Hubbard&#39;s "Christ" anyone who refuses to see themselves and others as "God" and "Christ" will be removed by the "selection process." Those professing Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour would be subject to this process, as would traditional Jews, Muslims and all others who refuse to see themselves as a part of God.

The Global Renaissance Alliance

Barbara Marx Hubbard, politically well-connected and extremely influential, is a major figure in the emerging field of "new gospel" politics. Her "Campaign for a Positive Future" is still going strong. And her formal involvement with Marianne Williamson, Neale Donald Walsch and other "new gospel" leaders in The Global Renaissance Alliance represents a new kind of spiritual activism that is rapidly developing into a social and political movement.

Hubbard&#39;s continued political ambitionare possibly evidenced in an article she wrote in a recently published book entitled Imagine: What America Could Be in the 21st Century. In the article, a woman very close to her own description becomes President of the United States after a successful campaign for a "positive future." Her character&#39;s campaign embraces the slogan "Resolve to Evolve — The Only Solution is Our Evolution." This president is unique in that she is the lead person in a first time ever team presidency.

Hubbard, through her writings and lifelong spiritual and political lobbying, continues to implement the teachings and principles she received from her "Christ." She is presently dedicated to the process of incorporating these "new gospel" teachings into her own local community of Santa Barbara, California. With high hopes that her Santa Barbara "seed group" will become a working model for other communities around the world, Hubbard will no doubt be looking for opportunities to showcase her project.

The fact that Oprah Winfrey recently bought a home in the Santa Barbara area should definitely increase Hubbard&#39;s chances of getting some exposure. In a "new age" world that says "there are no coincidences" it is interesting to note that Marianne Williamson, Oprah Winfrey and Barbara Marx Hubbard now all have houses just minutes from each other in the Santa Barbara area. If Oprah does for Hubbard what she did for Williamson, we will all be hearing a lot more about Barbara Marx Hubbard, her Santa Barbara "seed group" and the "new gospel" plans her "Christ" has for this world.

<div align="center">Direct Quotes From Hubbard&#39;s Christ in The Revelation</div>
Purpose of "New Revelation"

Behold, I am writing anew, through scribes on Earth who are willing to listen to me again with new ears, in the light of the present crises on planet Earth. (p. 265)

You must demonstrate the psychological state of universal consciousness as a new norm. That is the first purpose of your writings. (p. 74)

The second purpose of these writings is to call for the completion of the good news concerning the transformation of the world. (p. 74)

The alternative to Armageddon is open to you. This is why we are writing this text. (p. 264)

Resurrection

The resurrection was a future forecast of an approaching new norm. The transformation of Homo sapiens to Homo universalis is the acting out of that forecast by the human species. What I did alone, now all can do who choose to love God above all else and their neighbor as themselves. (p. 65)

I did not suffer on the cross and rise again on the third day to show you what I could do, but what you can do. Yours is the power. Yours is the glory. That is my message to you! (p. 100)

Christ

You were born to be me. You were born to be partners with God. (p. 148)

The church is the body of believers who are conscious of being me. (p. 102)

Sin

My beloved church misunderstood me. It preached the corruptibility of humanity when I came to demonstrate its potential for incorruptibility. It propounded the sinfulness of humanity when I suffered to reveal your godliness and to overcome your guilt by demonstrating that you can totally rise above the death of the body. (p. 231)

Return of Christ

I cannot "return" until enough of you are attracted and linked. (p. 66)

I cannot come to you unless you grow up to be my equal. (p. 75)

Man

I did not intend for you to deify me, but to deify yourselves as being at the same stage of evolution as I am. (p. 231)

You all have the same master from within. That master is me, your higher self, the Christ within each of you who is, right now, hearing the same voice, seeing the same vision of the future, despite all differences of language and culture. (p. 243)

The "living fountains of waters," the source of ever-evolving life in each of you, is waiting to be turned on. It is the mechanism for rejuvenation and renewal. (p. 151)

Satan

The fallen angel is that impulse in your being that urges you to believe only what your creature senses tell you: that you are separate from God and you will surely die. (p. 188)

Your triumph over Satan, that is, over the illusion of separation, will be a victory for the universal community. (p. 193)

Aliens

Do not fear "aliens." You have learned on Earth, after much suffering, that there are no "foreign" nations because there are no foreigners….You are living within one body. You are all members of one body. (p. 275)

You should know now that there are no aliens in the universe. They are Sons and Daughters of God at various stages of evolution. Yes, they are different — diverse beyond your present capacity to imagine — but they are not alien. (p. 275)

Evolution

Your unfinished species is ready to evolve. The time has come on Earth for this quantum change to occur in many of you. (p. 65)

You shall be enabled by the process of evolution to transcend your own limits. You cannot do it by human will and desire alone. You are to be empowered by the force that creates the universe. (p. 94)

Israel

Israel is the idea of humanity and God as One. It is the idea of the transformation of this world to a New Earth. It is the idea of the transformation of this body to a new body. It is the idea of the selection of the God-centered from the self-centered. It is the idea of the evolution of humanity from Adam of the living soul to Adam of the life-giving Spirit, from Homo sapiens to Homo universalis. (p. 192)

New Jerusalem

The New Jerusalem is the new city which emerges naturally from a New Heaven and a New Earth. It is the human community as a collectivity of natural Christs. (p. 258)

In the New Jerusalem, humanity and God are one. (p. 286)

*According to Hubbard, these transmissions come from "Christ" and "higher voices."

Dearly beloved, I approached the crucifixion far more easily than I approach the selection. The crucifixion was done unto my body. The selection will be done unto yours. (p. 197)

The decisive moment of selection has almost come. The judgment of the quick and the dead is about to be made. The end of this phase of evolution is nearly complete. (p. 189)

By your acts you shall be judged as to whether you can evolve, or must be "cast into the lake of fire," which is the second death. (p. 254)

The "second death" is for those of you who cannot evolve by choice, due to some deeply seated error in your understanding of the nature of reality. (p. 267) It is to open your mind that you will undergo the second death. (p. 267)

…[T]he fundamental regression is self-centeredness, or the illusion that you are separate from God. I "make war" on self-centeredness. It shall surely be overcome. The child must become the adult. Human must become Divine. That is the law. (p. 233)

At the co-creative stage of evolution, one self-centered soul is like a lethal cancer cell in a body: deadly to itself and to the whole. (p. 255)

The surgeon dare leave no cancer in the body when he closes up the wound after a delicate operation. We dare leave no self-centeredness on Earth after the selection process. For when we complete the process of the transformation, all who live on will be empowered to be godlike. (p. 240)

The selection process will exclude all who are exclusive. The selection process assures that only the loving will evolve to the stage of co-creator. (p. 303)

After the selection process, you will be born to the next stage of evolution. There will be a New Heaven, a New Earth, a new body and a new consciousness for all who survive. (p. 261)

Your triumph over Satan, that is, over the illusion of separation, will be a victory for the universal community. (p. 193)

If you do not choose to have a new body to co-create with me, you will not have one. You may choose an impersonal future rather than the transpersonal future. The impersonal future is bodiless. You divest yourself of your personal memory and your DNA, and become an undifferentiated aspect of God. (p. 196)

Cynics, disbelievers, those who fear and cannot love: know that the mercy of God almighty is with you now. The second death, for you, is a purification; an erasing of the memory of fear, through the shock of a fire. It will burn out the imprint upon your soul that is blocking you from seeing the glory, which shall be revealed in you. (p. 267)

Those who are not sufficiently educated to align with the design, experience God&#39;s purification process as long as necessary, until they learn how to know God or the Intention of Creation experientially. They cannot return to the new Earth or the new Heaven, in a self-centered state. (p. 255)

Remember, Satan is either consumed by fire or by love. In the New Jerusalem, there is no illusion of separation. (p. 297)

The end is near. The old play is almost over. Suffice it to say, that if you do not choose to evolve into a wholesome, co-creative human, then you shall not. (p. 195)

The only punishment is your self-exclusion from the joy of new life. The only pity is that you are missing the mark and choosing to die unfulfilled. (p. 195)

There need be no greater punishment. There need be no threats. There is only choice. That is the purpose of freedom. Only those who choose to evolve, do. Henceforth, the choice is yours. (p. 195)

The stakes are high, dearly beloved. Choose well. (p. 290)[/b][/quote]


"The surgeon dare leave no cancer in the body when he closes up the wound after a delicate operation. We dare leave no self-centeredness on Earth after the selection process. For when we complete the process of the transformation, all who live on will be empowered to be godlike. (p. 240) "

on reading this interpretation of the bible i was wondering how they would view those who are not willing to go along with the "plan" were to be treated - it doesnt sound much different to the wt&#39;s interpretation



awake &#39;81 jan
If You Were the Landlord, and These Were Your Tenants . . .

ON A cliff overlooking the ocean, you’ve built a beautiful house on 20 acres of gently rolling woodland. The inside of the house has been flawlessly decorated by a talented artist. Outside, near the house, landscaped flower beds give dazzling color, as also do the window boxes on the house itself. Fruit orchards and vegetable gardens provide ample food.Beyond these cultivated areas, towering trees surround a meadow through which a brook gurgles and winds its way. Sea breezes sway the wild flowers that add splashes of color to sunny glades. Everywhere you look is a feast for the eyes, and for your nostrils as they draw in deep breaths of sea air scented by flowers, and for your ears as birds fill the air with song and the wind adds its rustling of leaves. And in the background you hear the subdued sounds of the ocean surf as it rolls in on the beach far below.You survey the results of your work and feel satisfaction, a sense of accomplishment. You want others to enjoy it. You bring in a large family and turn all of it over to them, along with instructions for its care. You leave.Later you return, and you’re shocked! The ocean is a yellowish brown, globs of oil and garbage litter the beach, the trees have been chopped down, the meadow has turned brown, the brook is a mere trickle and it’s polluted. Trash is everywhere. The birds have left, the flowers are gone, the fruit trees are dead and concrete covers where the garden was.The paint has peeled off the house. Inside the house the floors are filthy, the walls marked up, the furniture scratched. The kitchen is littered with leftover food and the sink is filled with dirty dishes. Blaring music comes from some rooms, cursing is heard in others, and in some gross sexual immoralities and perversions are being practiced. The family left in charge has greatly increased, and its members quarrel and fight and even kill one another.As you survey the damage to your house and its grounds, and note the moral decay of its inhabitants, what thoughts go through your mind? This was the work of your hands. You’re the landlord. These people are your tenants. Obviously, they don’t appreciate what you did for them. They have ignored your instructions as to the care of your property. Will you leave them there? What will you do?

Similarly, “to Jehovah belong the earth and that which fills it.” (Ps. 24:1) After he created it he “saw everything he had made and, look! it was very good.” (Gen. 1:31) He put people on the earth and told them to take care of it—the plants, the animals, the environment. Now, after 6,000 years, what does he see? How does he feel about what he sees? What will he do?

awake &#39;92 september

The Bible shows that Jehovah God, earth’s Maker and Landlord, will soon take action against this planet’s unruly and unrulable tenants. Only the truly meek will be left to inherit the earth. Then only will we get to see what further purposes God has in mind for an obedient human family.—Psalm 37:11, 29; Revelation 11:18; 16:14-16.


"The New Jerusalem is the new city which emerges naturally from a New Heaven and a New Earth. It is the human community as a collectivity of natural Christs. (p. 258) "

there are very similar views to the wto - the New Jerusalem is composed of "annointed ones" all working together as a collective body

there are many simialr ideas in all these writings to our understanding of the bible - i suppose its only logical to come to the conclusion that for the planet and humanity to truely function as a healthy and beautiful place is if we are all co-operating together in love and harmony and truely caring for the planet and one another - this does take some effort on our part not just sitting back waiting for Jehovah and Jesus to change who we are - thats why the scriptures tell us to develop a new personality

billy
05-11-2008, 12:24 AM
<div align="center">Chapter 3


<div align="center">Neal Donald Walsch and Conversations With God</div>

In 1992 Neale Donald Walsch, a disillusioned and distraught former radio talk show host, public relations professional, and longtime metaphysical seeker, sat down one night and wrote God an angry letter. He was amazed when "God" immediately answered his letter by speaking to him through an inner voice. That night, and in subsequent conversations, Walsch wrote down all of the dictated answers to his questions. The dictation continued for several years.

Walsch&#39;s Conversations with God: Book 1 was published in 1995 and became the first in a series of bestselling Conversations with God books. It seemed that in Walsch "God" had found yet another willing channel for his "new gospel" teachings. In a style reminiscent of John Denver and George Burns in the movie Oh, God!, Walsch and "God" present a more "down home" version of the same "new gospel" teachings that were conveyed through previous "inner voice" dictation to Schucman and Hubbard.

With Walsch playing the role of devil&#39;s advocate, "God" cleverly plays off of Walsch&#39;s leading questions and comments. Walsch and "God" come across during these conversations as a couple of "everyday Joe&#39;s" who systematically dismantle traditional Christianity with their straight-from-the-source, "spiritually correct" teachings.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. —2 Timothy 4:3–4

With the assurance of two foxes now in control of the hen house, they emphatically assert that the "new gospel" is from God and that the "old gospel" is not. Delighted by the fact that they are being taken seriously by millions of readers, "God" and Walsch appear to thoroughly enjoy their process of bringing the public up to spiritual speed. Continuing to build upon the foundation of "new gospel" teachings already introduced through Schucman, Hubbard, and others, "God" and Walsch add some special twists of their own to the "new gospel" story. Using Walsch as the straight man, "God" introduces many of his more extreme teachings with smug, authoritative statements such as: "There are no such things as the Ten Commandments." "So who said Jesus was perfect?" and "Hitler went to heaven."

Glorification of Death

Walsch&#39;s "God" makes a number of other provocative statements about Hitler. The net effect is a minimization of Hitler&#39;s actions and an obvious glorification of death. The following are two of "God&#39;s" comments about Hitler and death: So the first thing you have to understand— as I&#39;ve already explained to you — is that Hitler didn&#39;t hurt anyone. In a sense, he didn&#39;t inflict suffering, he ended it.

I tell you this, at the moment of your death you will realize the greatest freedom, the greatest peace, the greatest joy, and the greatest love you have ever known. Shall we therefore punish Brer Fox for throwing Brer Rabbit into the briar patch?

Walsch, always the public relations man, anticipates reader incredulity at statements like these by expressing apparent surprise and then asking "God" questions that the skeptical reader would probably ask. But in his process of seeming to challenge "God" — which he does with considerable skill — Walsch actually enables "God" to further expound upon and reinforce the thoughts and ideas of his teachings. Not surprisingly, Walsch always seems to come around to "God&#39;s" point of view. Even to some of his more extreme views about death and Adolph Hitler.

In a book entitled Questions and Answers on Conversations with God, Walsch addresses reader concerns about the comments that "God" makes about Hitler and death. One of Walsch&#39;s statements of justification is: Yet while the books do state that life is eternal, that death is nothing to fear, and that returning to God is joyful; I do not believe that any reasonable interpretation of the material could fairly portray God as condoning the killing of human beings — or brushing it off as if it were of no importance or consequence. But Walsch does not address the fact that he and other Global Renaissance Alliance board members recommend Barbara Marx Hubbard&#39;s book, The Revelation, in which "Christ" clearly describes a "selection process" that will result in the "second death" of all those who refuse to subscribe to his "new gospel."

Humanity is "God"

At one point in their "conversation," "God" develops the idea that man is not subject to God because man is God. "God" explains that there are no rules and there is no right nor wrong because man, as God, is his own "rule-maker." Walsch&#39;s "God" contends that because God and humanity are one, it is therefore up to humanity to determine what God wants to do. If humanity wants to make up a new set of rules this late in the game, humanity can do that because it was humanity, as God, that devised the original rules in the first place. Everything is relative. Everything is up to the prevailing majority. Therefore, because humanity is God, humanity can create whatever rules and whatever future it wants.

For example, "God" tells Walsch: All of your life you have been told that God created you. I come now to tell you this: You are creating God. …You are your own rule-maker. Think, speak, and act as the God You Are. …Your future is creatable. Create it as you want it. Create the grandest version of the greatest vision you ever had about yourselves as a human race. "Conscious evolution," or the process of mankind consciously exercising its authority as "God" to create its own future, is the title of a recent Barbara Marx Hubbard book. "God" tells Walsch he gave Hubbard the title of the book. "God" also takes credit for inspiring A Course in Miracles.

"God:" This is called conscious evolution, and your species has just arrived there.

Walsch: Wow, that&#39;s an incredible insight. That&#39;s why You gave Barbara Marx Hubbard that book! As I said, she actually called it Conscious Evolution.

"God:" Of course she did. I told her to.

"God:" All attack is a call for help.

Walsch: I read that in A Course in Miracles.

"God:" I put it there.

"God" makes it clear to Walsch that his modern-day "revelation" is for all those who have never really understood his teachings about man being God. As he was with Schucman and Hubbard, "God" is indirectly critical of Bible-believing Christians who insist that sin is real and that man is not God. "God" contends that the only real "sin" is for man to see himself as sinful and "separate" from God. "God" says that the only "devil" or "Satan" is the separatist thinking that differentiates between man and God.

Echoing A Course in Miracles, "God" states that only as humanity sees through the illusion of "separation" and "sin" and affirms its own godliness and oneness with all creation will the planet be saved from ultimate ruin.

"New gospel" Politics

Walsch&#39;s "God" warns that in the near future people will have to make a choice between the "old" and "new" gospels. The choice they make will have great bearing on the future of mankind. "God" declares that humanity, by collectively imagining and envisioning its highest hopes and dreams, can consciously create a positive future. "God" expresses great optimism that the "new gospel" will prevail and tells Walsch that humanity is standing on the threshold of a "golden" new age.

The twenty-first century will be the time of awakening, of meeting The Creator Within. Many beings will experience Oneness with God and with all of life. This will be the beginning of the golden age of the New Human, of which it has been written; the time of the universal human, which has been eloquently described by those with deep insight among you.

There are many such people in the world now — teachers and messengers, Masters and visionaries — who are placing this vision before humankind and offering tools with which to create it. These messengers and visionaries are the heralds of a New Age.

Regarding how the "New Age" will be achieved and ultimately overseen, "God" impresses Walsch with the importance of bringing spirituality into politics and government. He tells Walsch: When you agree to spread the word, to carry the message that can change the human heart, you play an important role in changing the human condition. This is why all spirituality is ultimately political.

You cannot avoid politicizing your spirituality. Your political viewpoint is your spirituality, demonstrated. Yet perhaps itis not a matter of politicizing your spirituality, but of spiritualizing your politics. "God" is very specific about how this spiritualization of politics should ultimately manifest itself.

"God:" Something will have to be new if you wish your world to change. You must begin to see someone else&#39;s interests as your own. This will happen only when you reconstruct your global reality and govern yourselves accordingly.

Walsch: Are you talking about a one-world government?

"God:" I am.

"God" exhorts Walsch to carry out his mission to change the world and to bring in a spiritually-based new world order by issuing this charge: Go, therefore, and teach ye all nations, spreading far and wide The New Gospel: WE ARE ALL ONE. And certainly Walsch seems to be doing his part. Responding to "God&#39;s" charge to spread the "new gospel" and to help establish sympathy for "a one-world government," Walsch co-founded The Global Renaissance Alliance with Marianne Williamson. He also continues to write books, conduct workshops and speak to large groups around the country.

<div align="center">Direct quotes from Walsch&#39;s "God"</div>
Purpose

And so I have chosen you to be My messenger. You, and many others. For now, during these times immediately ahead, the world will need many trumpets to sound the clarion call. (CWG Book 1, p. 144)

The purpose of this book, and of all the books in the trilogy we are creating, is to create readiness — readiness for a new paradigm, a new understanding; a larger view, a grander idea. (CWG Book 2, p. 36)

New gospel

There is only one message that can change the course of human history forever, end the torture, and bring you back to God. That message is The New Gospel: WE ARE ALL ONE. (FWG, p. 373)

God

There is only One of Us. You and I are One. (FWG, p. 23)

God is creation. (CWG Book 1, p. 198)

There are a thousand paths to God, and every one gets you there. (FWG, p. 357)

Christ

Many have been Christed, not just Jesus of Nazareth. You can be Christed, too. (CWG Book 2, p. 22)

Man

You are already a God. You simply do not know it. (CWG Book 1, p. 202)

You are the Creator and the Created. (CWG Book 3, p. 350)

You are, quite literally, the Word of God, made flesh. (FWG, p. 395)

My purpose in creating you, My spiritual offspring, was for Me to know Myself as God. I have no way to do that save through you. Thus it can be said… that My purpose for you is that you should know yourself as Me. (CWG Book 1, p. 26)

Atonement/Oneness

You must realize that "atonement" is just that — it is "atone-ment." It is the awareness that you and all others are One. It is the understanding that you are One with everything — including Me. (FWG, p. 92)

The only solution is the Ultimate Truth: nothing exists in the universe that is separate from anything else. (CWG Book 2, p. 173)

Evolution

And do not stay so "stuck" in your present beliefs and customs that you halt the process of evolution itself. (CWG Book 3, p. 89)

It&#39;s important now, it&#39;s time now, to change your mind about some things. This is what evolution is all about. (CWG Book 1, p. 168)

This truly is an evolution revolution, for now larger and larger numbers of you are creating consciously the quality of your experience, the direct expression of Who You Really Are, and the rapid manifestation of Who You Choose to Be. (CWG Book 3, p. 279)

Sin

In truth, there is no such thing as a "sinner," for no one can be sinned against — least of all Me. (CWG Book 3, p. 87)

Quite an interesting concept. How did anyone get you to believe that? (CWG Book 2, p. 43)

The act of Adam and Eve was not original sin, but, in truth, first blessing. (CWG Book 1, p. 56)

Evil

Evil is that which you call evil. (CWG Book 1, p. 61)

Aliens

Walsch: And You&#39;re telling me that beings from outer space are helping us with that?

"God": Indeed. They are among you now, many of them. They have been helping for years. (CWG Book 2, p. 239) The time will come when your consciousness will rise and your fear will subside, and then they will reveal themselves to you. Some of them have already done so — with a handful of people. (CWG Book 2, p. 239)

Creating Your Own Future

So if you think it would be interesting for the doomsday predictions of the psychics to come true, focus all your attention on that, and you can draw that to yourself. And if you think you would like to experience a different reality, focus on that, and that is the outcome you can draw to you. (CWG Book 3, p. 109)

New World Order

There have been those leaders among you who have been insightful enough and brave enough to propose the beginnings of such a new world order. Your George Bush, whom history will judge to be a man of far greater wisdom, vision, compassion, and courage than contemporary society was willing or able to acknowledge, was such a leader. So was Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev….(CWG Book 2, p. 199)

Peace

You can similarly end all war tomorrow. Simply. Easily. All it takes — all it has ever taken — is for all of you to agree. (CWG Book 1, p. 50)

Hitler and Death

Walsch: Well, I&#39;m going to have to ask the questions here that I know so many people are thinking and wanting to ask. How could a man like Hitler have gone to heaven? Every religion in the world… I would think every one, has declared him condemned and sent straight to hell.

"God": First, he could not have gone to hell because hell does not exist. Therefore, there is only one place left to which he could have gone. But that begs the question. The real issue is whether Hitler&#39;s actions were "wrong." Yet I have said over and over again that there is no "right" or "wrong" in the universe. A thing is not intrinsically right or wrong. A thing simply is. Now your thought that Hitler was a monster is based on the fact that he ordered the killing of millions of people, correct?

Walsch: Obviously, yes.

"God": Yet what if I told you that what you call "death" is the greatest thing that could happen to anyone — what then? (CWG Book 2, p. 36)

I do not love "good" more than I love "bad." Hitler went to heaven. (CWG Book 1, p. 61)

The mistakes Hitler made did no harm or damage to those whose deaths he caused. Those souls were released from their earthly bondage, like butterflies emerging from a cocoon. (CWG Book 2, p. 42)

So the first thing you have to understand — as I&#39;ve already explained to you — is that Hitler didn&#39;t hurt anyone. In a sense, he didn&#39;t inflict suffering, he ended it. (CWG Book 2, p. 56)

There is no "death." Life goes on forever and ever. Life is. You simply change form. (CWG Book 2, p. 40)

I tell you this, at the moment of your death you will realize the greatest freedom, the greatest peace, the greatest joy, and the greatest love you have ever known. Shall we therefore punish Brer Fox for throwing Brer Rabbit into the briar patch? (CWG Book 2, p. 36)

If you are a being who chooses to cut out a cancer within you in order to preserve your larger life form, then you will demonstrate that. (FWG, p. 369)

Every aspect of divinity has co-creative control over its destiny. Therefore, you cannot kill a mosquito against its will. At some level, the mosquito has chosen that. All of the change in the universe occurs with the consent of the universe itself, in its various forms. The universe cannot disagree with itself. That is impossible. (FWG, p. 371)

And so, to your question. Is it okay to swat a mosquito? Trap a mouse? Pull a weed? Slaughter a lamb and eat it? That is for you to decide. All is for you to decide. (FWG, p. 388)

For while you will understand that you cannot end another&#39;s life in any event (all life is eternal), you will not choose to terminate any particular incarnation, nor change any life energy from one form to another, without the most sacred justification. (CWG Book 1, p. 96–97)[/b][/quote]


now these quotes are very scary:

"The mistakes Hitler made did no harm or damage to those whose deaths he caused. Those souls were released from their earthly bondage, like butterflies emerging from a cocoon. (CWG Book 2, p. 42)

So the first thing you have to understand — as I&#39;ve already explained to you — is that Hitler didn&#39;t hurt anyone. In a sense, he didn&#39;t inflict suffering, he ended it. (CWG Book 2, p. 56)

There is no "death." Life goes on forever and ever. Life is. You simply change form. (CWG Book 2, p. 40)

I tell you this, at the moment of your death you will realize the greatest freedom, the greatest peace, the greatest joy, and the greatest love you have ever known. Shall we therefore punish Brer Fox for throwing Brer Rabbit into the briar patch? (CWG Book 2, p

For while you will understand that you cannot end another&#39;s life in any event (all life is eternal), you will not choose to terminate any particular incarnation, nor change any life energy from one form to another, without the most sacred justification. (CWG Book 1, p. 96–97) "

have this type of belief system is like giving someone a license to kill - maybe death can end a persons suffering and be viewed as a releif at times - and some choose this themselves - but to have the idea that one doenst have to be responsible for actions resulting in someones death sounds ridiculous to me - and with the jews in hitlers reign of terror - there was alot of suffering that went along with their deaths - it seems like a very cold hearted way of looking at things - so this may be the angle the NWO uses in wiping out a large part of the population - they will be "doing us a favor" :unsure:

I suppose i find this subject interesting because i know a number of people who have been really into this guys books - and not reading them myself i wasnt aware of the teachings he is promoting

billy
05-11-2008, 03:30 AM
the beasts of govenment have often used religion to gain control over the people - it&#39;s only logical that the last beasts ruled by the dragon would use the same method - babylon the great - empire of false religion - especially in compiling all the religions together to create one unified world wide religion - then when evey one has swalled the bait , doesnt the beast turn on the harlot and destroy her ? maybe then the world will realize it was duped

Steadfast
05-11-2008, 05:22 PM
Dear Billy,

Thanks for your comments. :)

The reason why this book is such an interesting read is that it shows the real mentality of the one behind the one world religion...that one being Satan.

What did surprise me was the &#39;Planetary Pentecost&#39; aspect. The timing of it may also prove to be very interesting....perhaps even around the same time that the two-witnesses are empowered for their preaching work.

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

The final sealing of the 144,000 takes place at the sixth seal.

Quote:

&#39;You are to prepare the way for the alternative to Armageddon, which is the Planetary Pentecost, the great Instant of Co-operation which can transform enough, en masse, to avoid the necessity of the seventh seal being broken. (p. 172–173)

Tell them to recognize the God within themselves, and to follow that light through the darkness of the tribulations to the dawn of the Universal Age, when only the God-conscious continue to exist, and everyone is like Christ. (p. 102)

You are to provide the opportunity for a planetary signal wherein each person who chooses life over death can register that decision visibly — a coming to witness before the world. (p. 302)

Each shall be "sealed" with the seal of the living God. This means that they shall be marked, visibly identified, first to themselves, then to others. This means that their inner eye in the forehead will be fully opened by this touch, henceforth awakening them from the womb of self-centeredness. (p. 149)

All those sealed with the seal of the living God must be consciously linked in a common thought pattern for an instant in time to AVOID ARMAGEDDON. The bell will never toll, if you can link before the end must come. (p. 241)

Those with the seal of the living God on their foreheads will be with Christ at the time of the Transformation. (p. 190)&#39;

Love,

Steadfast

billy
05-12-2008, 04:52 AM
Avoiding the seventh seal to be opened is most of the prophecies in Revelaton - starting from chapter 8 to the the end of the book Rev 22 - do they really think they can avoid Jehovahs will being done ? of course all through these denunciations there are still comments like - "they still did not repent" so just as the plagues upon Egypt - Pharoah still had the opportunity to make better choices and recognize Gods Authority and change his mind by obeying Jehovah - so it appears many will have this obsitnate attitude with all the plagues hitting the earth - the opposers to the seventh seal may feel they have conjured up enough power to fight against Jehovah - just as the magic practicing priests of Egypt could conjure up similar powers - maybe they feel if mankind are all unifyed this will give the dark forces more power - although i think many view the dark forces as forces of "light"

Steadfast
05-13-2008, 01:45 AM
Dear Billy,

Exactly. The dark forces do think they have the true light.

Will people as individuals be able to discern the difference? We will see the preaching of the two witnesses and the false christs at the same time. Time will tell.

Love,

Steadfast

Steadfast
05-15-2008, 10:02 PM
<div align="center">Skewing the Bible</div><div align="center"> </div><div align="center"> </div>
In The Reappearance of the Christ and the Masters of Wisdom Benjamin Creme wrote:

The Master Jesus is going to reform the Christian churches.

He is one of the Masters Who will very shortly return to outer work in the world, taking over the throne of St. Peter, in Rome. He will seek to transform the Christian Churches, in so far as they are flexible enough to respond correctly to the new reality which the return of the Christ and the Masters will create.

Many recent translations and paraphrases of the Bible—like Eugene Peterson&#39;s The Message Bible—play right into Maitreya&#39;s "Master Jesus" scenario. Unfortunately, many popular church leaders—like Rick Warren—choose to use these newer translations and paraphrases. From Deceived on Purpose:

Sadly, many of the newer Bible translations and paraphrases used by Rick Warren have often dropped the words "Lord" and "Christ" from Jesus&#39; title and have substituted the word "Master." This obviously plays directly into the hands of a false Christ, like Maitreya, who will be trying to convince the world—and particularly Christians—that Jesus is not the Lord Jesus Christ but simply the "Master Jesus."…

And while the disciples and followers of the real Jesus called Him "Master," it was always with the understanding that He was also their "Lord" and "Christ." But in the King James Bible, when they addressed Him as "Master" they never—not even once—directly addressed Him as "Master Jesus." Yet, the term "Master Jesus" appears repeatedly in Eugene Peterson&#39;s The Message Bible. Peterson continually drops the word "Lord" from Jesus&#39; title, choosing instead to refer to Him as "Master Jesus."

For example, The King James translation of Revelation 22:20-21 at the very end of the Bible is:

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

The Message Bible paraphrase is:

Yes! Come, Master Jesus!
The grace of the Master Jesus be with all of you. Oh, Yes!

Steadfast
05-18-2008, 04:38 PM
<div align="center">Benjamin Crème on a Global Economic Collapse</div>

<div align="left">Coast to Coast

</div> Benjamin Creme, now in his eighties, continues to travel around the world giving lectures and interviewing with the media. He has been on the popular nationwide late night Coast to Coast radio program five times in recent years talking with Art Bell and his staff about the coming of Maitreya, "the Christ." Creme talks openly of Maitreya&#39;s plan to bring love and peace to the planet through "world service" to the "have not" peoples of the Earth. Creme claims that many of the positive social, political and economic developments that have taken place over the last two decades have been inspired by Maitreya. But Creme readily acknowledges that many people are still suspicious of Maitreya and his motives. After Creme&#39;s January 28, 2003 interview, Coast to Coast posted a recap of the program on their website. Under the heading The Coming of Maitreya it said:

Benjamin Creme of shareintl.org, made an eloquent appearance on Tuesday night&#39;s show, speaking of the "incredibly evolved master" known as Maitreya….

"They are ignorant, misinformed, and afraid," Creme said of those who claim that Maitreya is the Antichrist. "They have never experienced his love and his humanity," he continued.

According to Creme, Maitreya is waiting to make himself known at the proper time, which he believes may be when the developed world has a major economic collapse.

It&#39;s "the only thing that will bring humanity face to face with reality… a burst in their economic security,"

Creme said. "It is the giant gap between the haves and have nots that urgently needs to be redressed in our world," Creme pointed out. This total lack of balance he states causes the "inability to see the world as one."

Sketch
05-18-2008, 06:17 PM
http://divinebynature.tripod.com/crack_pipe.jpg

Steadfast
05-20-2008, 12:41 AM
<div align="center">Update: Barbara Marx Hubbard</div>

No worldly peace can prevail until the self-centered members of the planetary body either change, or die. That is the choice. The red horse (of Revelation) is the destruction during the birth process of those who refuse to be born into God-centered, universal life. They cannot go backward to the womb; they cannot go forward to the new heavens and new earth. They must surely die, or change.

It is a free choice. Evolution is good but it is not nice. Only the good can evolve. Only the God-centered will survive to inherit the powers of a universal species. Evolution empowers the horseman upon the red horse to kill that which cannot love God above all else and his neighbor as himself and himself as the son of God.

James
05-20-2008, 01:14 AM
<div align="center">Update: Barbara Marx Hubbard

No worldly peace can prevail until the self-centered members of the planetary body either change, or die. That is the choice. The red horse (of Revelation) is the destruction during the birth process of those who refuse to be born into God-centered, universal life. They cannot go backward to the womb; they cannot go forward to the new heavens and new earth. They must surely die, or change.

It is a free choice. Evolution is good but it is not nice. Only the good can evolve. Only the God-centered will survive to inherit the powers of a universal species. Evolution empowers the horseman upon the red horse to kill that which cannot love God above all else and his neighbor as himself and himself as the son of God.[/b][/quote]

Hi Steadfast,

I always appreciate hearing your &#39;take&#39; on the state of things but, this one belongs here.

http://www.axialis.com/objects/ip_icon_03_ButtonDown.png

http://www.fotosearch.com/bthumb/UNN/UNN211/u12583687.jpg


agape sister,
James


Seriously, that is the most convoluted, contradictory statement that I&#39;ve heard in the last day or so...

Steadfast
05-20-2008, 05:30 AM
Dear Friends,

If a person has not read the entire thread, I can understand the confusion that some might feel.

The major governments have been involved with the demons through various projects for decades…one of which is remote viewing. It&#39;s also called &#39;astral travel.&#39;

The information in this thread actually supports the idea that &#39;other intelligence&#39; is also involved in a religious format to help bring about world peace. Maitreya and his supporters are working behind the scenes with governmental leaders for a reason.

None of this information even contradicts the book of Revelation, if we approach our understanding of the four horsemen as an assault on the Jesus Christ of the Bible and those who follow him.

This seems reasonable because why would Satan want to kill or destroy those who belong to him? His belongings are those who take the mark of the beast.

The four horsemen are seen riding on the earth at the beginning of the great trib, which means that the first white horse rider cannot be Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ does not come on the scene until Revelation 19. That leaves only one possibility left…and that is a False Messiah that comes at the beginning of the trib for the sole purpose of deceving mankind into taking his mark.

These are the very same plans of Maitreya who has stated the world will be ready for him after an international financial collapse that will &#39;level the global monetary playing field.&#39;

Love,

Steadfast

Berean
05-20-2008, 12:58 PM
I must admit I don&#39;t know anything about this Maitreya situation, but a quick glance through the Wikipedia article reveals some interesting tidbits:

"Maitreya&#39;s coming is characterized by a number of physical events. The oceans are predicted to decrease in size, allowing Maitreya to traverse them freely."

"While a number of persons have proclaimed themselves to be Maitreya over the years following the Buddha’s nirvana, none have been officially recognized by the sangha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangha) and Buddhists (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist). A particular difficulty faced by any would-be claimant to Maitreya&#39;s title is the fact that the Buddha is considered to have made a number of fairly specific predictions regarding the circumstances that would occur prior to Maitreya&#39;s coming- such as that the teachings of the Buddha would be completely forgotten, and all of the remaining relics of Sakyamuni Buddha would be gathered in Bodh Gaya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodh_Gaya) and cremated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremated)."

So it would appear that whoever this Maitreya is that is supposedly on Earth already, doing all sorts of things, Buddhists wouldn&#39;t accept him, and I&#39;d think a Buddhist endorsement would be crucial in being able to carry the title Maitreya.

Of course, none of this really matters, since we all know that only one person will return to the Earth, and that is Jesus Christ.

Sketch
05-20-2008, 03:29 PM
made a number of fairly specific predictions regarding the circumstances that would occur prior to Maitreya&#39;s coming- such as that the teachings of the Buddha would be completely forgotten....."
......Buddhists wouldn&#39;t accept him, and I&#39;d think a Buddhist endorsement would be crucial in being able to carry the title Maitreya.[/b]

So, You&#39;re saying that all buddhist teachings must be forgotten before the buddhists will accept the Maitreya..... sounds logical to me... using the logic of religion anyway...

Berean
05-20-2008, 03:40 PM
Hey, I&#39;m only saying what Wikipedia® says. ;)

Steadfast
05-21-2008, 04:15 PM
Dear Friends,

For those of you who have been members here for some time, you may remember our dear brother Eden. He and his family have been disfellowshipped for taking their stand over the UN-NGO issue.

Eden has been following this thread and has asked me to post his comments as he is not currently a member of the board.

Love,

Steadfast


Eden&#39;s remarks:

"I think Jinn is missing the point.

This new gospel stuff is important and I have my 2 cents to add to Steadfast&#39;s comments.

It&#39;s not that we want to emphasize the need to be wary of false religion – or keep watch that we are not deceived by a one world religion while ignoring the traps of materialism. We are emphasizing that it&#39;s the false Christ(s) we should be alert to (just as Jesus said). The receiving of the mark of the beast in the end times has everything to do with being accepted as part of the world order – without that acceptance you cannot buy or sell etc.

The NWO is a counterfeit kingdom and will be led by the anti-Christ (or false Christ) who ultimately is Satan himself. The period of time this kingdom rules was spoken of by Jesus as &#39;the appointed times of the nations&#39;. God&#39;s kingdom is the true kingdom and will be lead by the true Christ who is ultimately Jesus. So we see a clear picture of two opposing kings or gods each claiming to be the true one. This is why knowing who Jesus is is important – so we know who to side with. The fact that there is a growing number of people attaching themselves to this &#39;new gospel&#39; is revealing the &#39;christ&#39; they have chosen to lead them.

The universal issue is over the righteousness of God. This new gospel teaches an unrighteous God - whereas Jesus is an exhibit of God&#39;s righteousness. (Romans 3:21-26)

I want to thank Steadfast for posting this stuff. I have read some of the books that were summarized and also spoken with people that believe it. Some of these ones are comforted by the notion that no one will be punished or killed. For others the notion that this world is an illusion is easier for them to cope with than its reality. Some are impressed by the pseudo-intellectual reasoning so they can feel like deep thinkers.

Jesus said, &#39;this is the basis for judgment, the light came into the world but the men loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were wicked.&#39;

The distinction between Gods side and Satan&#39;s is as clear as that between light and dark. Let&#39;s become intimately acquainted with the righteousness of God so that we can discern between the two. (Romans 10:1-4)"

Steadfast
06-20-2008, 03:14 AM
Dear Friends,

Another article with some interesting connections.

Keep on the watch…

Love,

Steadfast

<div align="center"> </div>
<div align="center">Awakening the New Spirituality?</div>
"Perhaps the single most powerful event facing humanity today is a great awakening on a planetary scale that has been millennia in the making. We humans are in the midst of a profound advance as a species to a higher form of global consciousness...." The World Commission on Global Consciousness & Spirituality

"...about ten percent of people in North America [and "Western Europe"] are already awakening.... This is probably enough of a critical mass to bring about a new earth. So the transformation of consciousness is truly happening." Eckhart Tolle, author of A New Earth.

"...the ushering in of the new world order ... will gather into its ranks all men of peace and good will … the embodiment of the emerging Kingdom of God on earth...." Dictated to theosophist Alice Bailey by her spirit guide, Djwhal Khul.

"...the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one." 1 John 5:19 "Therefore take heed that the light which is in you is not darkness." Luke 11:35

A bright New Spirituality is beckoning seekers everywhere. It promises peace, pleasure, power and oneness with the Divine. It envisions a cosmic evolution that will usher in a glorious Kingdom of God on earth. And it&#39;s rapidly spreading a contagious new "consciousness" that will (so they say) unite all Life -- except disbelieving resisters -- into a single Global Mind.

Popularized by Oprah, its positive, people-pleasing image is challenging churches everywhere to emerge from their Biblical ways and flow with the change. Tearing down divisive old boundaries, it flings its doors open to the world&#39;s tantalizing attractions. After all, the New Spirituality knows neither sin nor guilt!

No wonder today&#39;s restless, thrill-seeking world is flocking to popular authors such as Eckhart Tolle, Marianne Williamson, William Young and others. Captivated by their books and promises, the masses have learned to love "the beautiful side of evil." Drawn by "deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons" (1 Timothy 4:1), few even realize they are trading Truth for lies.

Oprah isn&#39;t the only guru for this New Spirituality. A worldwide web of "partners" and networks have joined hands to speed this transformation. Even a staunch communist like Mikhail Gorbachev is part of this vast occult movement. Calling for "a global consciousness," he invited countless occult leaders to participate in his State of the World Forums back in the nineties.

One of Gorbachev&#39;s guests was Ervin Laszlo, founder of the globalist Club of Budapest and a leading member of the Club of Rome founded by David Rockefeller. Dr. Laszlo has been a major advocate for "systems thinking" -- the mystical interconnectedness behind the New Spirituality.

Barbara Marx Hubbard, another Gorbachev "guest," had written a counterfeit version of the Bible&#39;s book of Revelation. Dictated by a deceiving "voice" called "Christ," it predicts that a "collective transformation" would occur when a "critical mass" of "individuals align to shift the basic thought form of earth from fear and separation to unity." If humanity cooperates with the plan, each human "mind will be consciously connected with the Mind of God." Those who resist would be "selected" for destruction.

Today, this teaching is seeping into mainstream America -- not because the masses are listening to Barbara Marx Hubbard, but because her demonic source also inspires their favorite authors. Occultism cloaked in feel-good "Christianese" has become part of today&#39;s common language.

More recently, Hubbard&#39;s website asked -- then answered -- this enticing question:

"ARE YOU... ready to co-create a whole new world? Willing to take your next step in your own personal evolution? Seeking to join with others around the world committed to doing the same? ... This life-changing program is based on the extraordinary lifework of Barbara Marx Hubbard, combined with the wisdom and insights of other leading edge thinkers in Conscious Evolution including: • Deepak Chopra • Duane Elgin • Mathew Fox • Buckminster Fuller... • Jean Houston • Ervin Laszlo... • Brian Swimme • Rasha • Peter Russel • Eckhard Tolle • Neale Donald Walsch...."

Some of these "co-creators" have been pushing this transformation for decades from behind the scenes.

Neal Donald Walsch is no stranger to this movement. Back in the &#39;90s his Conversations with God books captivated seekers both inside and outside the church. On his website, he introduces the worldwide "Humanity&#39;s Team":

"Humanity&#39;s Team... proposes a New Spirituality that enlarges and enhances humanity&#39;s current beliefs about God... bringing peace and harmony to our planet at last. The New Spirituality... is an expansion of all our present theologies; an updating of them; a refreshing of them, rendering all of our current sacred teachings even more relevant to our present day.... God is not separate from anyone or anything...."

Who are the members of this worldwide Team of spiritual change agents?

Walsch gives us a clue. His list of links will "take you to the websites of some key organizations and resources we&#39;ve identified as active partners." These "active partners" include the following organizations -- and many more:

A Course in Miracles "—a unique, universal, self-study spiritual thought system that teaches the way to Love and Inner Peace is through forgiveness."

Lucius Trust [formerly Lucifer Trust]: "The worldwide activities of the Lucis Trust, founded by Alice and Foster Bailey, are dedicated to ... the education of the human mind towards recognition and practice of the spiritual principles and values upon which a stable and interdependent world society may be based."

An article on this Luciferian website describes the dark spiritual hierarchy behind today&#39;s global mind change:

"Throughout time, the idea of a group of wise and enlightened beings working behind the scenes to guide our planet has been conveyed in spiritual teachings, in literature and myth. This group, known by various names such as the spiritual Hierarchy, The Masters of the Wisdom, and the Elder Brothers has ever come forth in times of crisis and today will be no different.... Because of the Hierarchy&#39;s enlightened leadership, the course of human affairs will be irrevocably turned towards the light and towards the realisation of the divine Plan. This will work out most noticeably through the establishment of right human relationships...." Lucis Trust publication.

But God&#39;s Word tells us the truth about this demonic hierarchy:

"...we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day..." Ephesians 6:12-13

That evil day may come sooner than we think, if pastors and church leaders continue to close their eyes to the dark forces driving this web of organizations. Here are some of the more familiar ones:

United Nations: "We all have within us a center of stillness surrounded by silence...." (UN Secretary-General Dag Hammarskjöld, dedication of the occult UN Meditation Room)

United Religions Initiative "...was founded in 2000 by an extraordinary global community committed to promoting enduring, daily interfaith cooperation.... Today the URI includes thousands of members in over 65 countries representing more than 100 religions...."

The Earth Charter: "Created by global civil society, endorsed by thousands of organizations and institutions, the Charter is ... a motivating force inspiring change...."

The World Commission on Global Consciousness & Spirituality: "The great spiritual traditions have long seen that the key to our survival, sustainability and flourishing turns on our conscious evolution into dialogic patterns of life which bring forth our true moral, rational and spiritual nature as a species. ...stand back and gain critical distance from our particular localized perspectives and enter the more expansive space of a global perspective in the wakening of the global mind."

Take a moment and take a look at the power brokers behind this rising World Commission:

· Commission Co-chairs: Ervin Laszlo: (whom you met earlier), Dr. Karan Singh and Robert Muller. Muller, an influential UN leader for over 30 years, prepared a World Core Curriculum, which was formally embraced by most of Europe and influenced the teaching of social studies across America.

· The Rev. James Morton Parks, a panel speaker on the topic of Solidarity at the 1996 UN Conference on Human Settlements, housed the Temple of Understanding at his massive Cathedral of St. John the Divine in New York for many years.

· The Dalai Lama, Archbishop Desmond Tutu...

· Robert Thurman (Buddhist Tibetan Scholar, Columbia University)

· Sir Sigmund Sternberg (Winner of the Templeton Prize)

· His Royal Highness El Hassan bin Talal of Jordan, President, Club of Rome

· Barbara Marx Hubbard

· Also included are Mikhail Gorbachev, Al Gore and Deepak Chopra

Global Councils: "...the World Commission (WC) has taken as one of its highest priorities the importance of forming powerful networks, partnerships and collaborations in the interest of fostering growing circles and forces for creative transformation on a planetary scale.... [These are] provisional nominees of the Councils:

Global Council on Spirituality & Deep Ecology: Brian Swimme, Duane Elgin.. Thomas Berry... Jean Houston...

Global Council on Spiritual Politics & Global Citizenship: Al Gore... Marianne Williamson, Deepak Chopra...

Global Council on Personal & Planetary Security: Mikhail Gorbachev....

Global Council on Planetary Ethics and Values: Steven Rockefeller, Ervin Laszlo…Hans Kung…

This intertwined network is growing fast. A rising number of church leaders are conforming to this collective framework for change. What&#39;s worse, many are passionately pushing it! Others claim to follow truth, while doing the opposite. Pragmatic pastors such as Rick Warren seem to have a leg in each camp. He had a part in choosing the winner of a Templeton Prize.

In fact, The John Templeton Foundation is listed as one of Walsch&#39;s "active partners." It makes sense! By merging mystical science and spirituality, it paves the way for a spiritual sociology for a supposed common good. Its page on "Spiritual Capital" fits right into the UN quest for global solidarity. You may be familiar with human capital (the value of a workforce) and social capital (the value of a harmonious, dialectic community), but what about Spiritual Capital? How can that be measured in economic terms?

Spiritual Capital: "...This is an interdisciplinary social scientific research initiative on the economic and social consequences of religion and spirituality. The program seeks to integrate the concept of spiritual capital into the human sciences...."

The next four "active partners" deal with PRAXIS -- the strategic blend of group dialogue and practical experience that makes the evolving dialectic synthesis seem more real to a person than actual facts or reality.

Temple of Understanding: "The mission of the Temple of Understanding (TOU) is to achieve peaceful coexistence among individuals, communities, and societies through interfaith education. Our programs emphasize experiential knowledge and dialogue as a means of connecting people... across a spectrum of religious traditions."

Global Mindshift: "We are encouraged knowing we are only one among thousands of organizations working toward the same goal.... We believe that to unite as a human species, we need to engage, globally, in dialogue that will help bring our collective interests and objectives into focus. ... We have found these two elements — deep conversation and creative action — to be tightly interdependent [Communists called it PRAXIS]. Through conversation we begin to build shared meaning and trust.... If we are to see what unifies us, then we need a perspective large enough to transcend our many differences."

International Interfaith Centre: "Among the topics for discussion are interfaith work at the UN, the next Parliament of the World&#39;s Religions, new interfaith questions initiative, and work with young people."

Interfaith Youth Core: "...the Interfaith Youth Core aims to introduce a new relationship, one that is about mutual respect and religious pluralism. Instead of focusing a dialogue on political or theological differences, we build relationships on the values that we share.... We provide... leadership training, project resources and a connection to a broader movement."

Conversations with God Foundation: "This retreat from the ReCreation Foundation... invites you to an Understanding, Experiencing, and Applying, of the Conversations with God material in a way that leads you to discover celebrating Who You Really Are! ...the Truth of YOU, marvelous YOU!"

Spiral Dynamics Integral: "Conceived and led by Dr. Don Beck, a leading global authority on value systems, societal change, and stratified democracy, SDi is an advanced extension and elaboration of the bio-psycho-social systems....&#39;"

The final link below is a bit strange -- and probably far less influential than the others. But who knows? An Obama victory could light many new fires for this ageless occult conspiracy.

The Foundation for Pluralism: "Barack Obama, Shepherd of our Nation.... an all inclusive, pluralistic candidate....

"Concept of Oneness of God. ...his concept of oneness... is a spiritual one that one feels in the bones, be it Aztec, Baha&#39;i, Buddhist, Christian, Confucius, Hindu, Hopi, Jain, Jew, Muslim, Sikh, Shinto, Wicca, Yazid, Zoroastrian and others. There is one mother and one God....

"Say No to intolerance -- It is ironic that there is actually shameless campaigning going out to promote hate against another people. How are they different than the KKK and the Nazis?"

Fighting words like "hate" and "tolerance" have been redefined by those who hate our God and have no tolerance for His followers. Remember, Biblical Christianity is the biggest obstacle to their success. As Jesus warned, "you will be hated by all for My name&#39;s sake." (Mark 13:13). Are you ready for the challenge?

"...all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. But you must continue in the things which you have learned..." 2 Timothy 3:1-14.

Candace
06-20-2008, 12:38 PM
Berit Kjos (http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/new-spirituality.htm#3)

(Matthew 15:14) "If, then, a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

(Luke 6:39) “A blind man cannot guide a blind man, can he? Both will tumble into a pit, will they not?"

(Proverbs 18:10) . . .The name of Jehovah is a strong tower. Into it the righteous runs and is given protection.

(Psalm 83:18) That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth.

Steadfast
06-20-2008, 03:11 PM
Dear Candace,

The verses you posted are very appropriate for the information I am posting. As long as we are aware of what is coming up on the religious horizon, we will not become a blind man following a blind man and lose salvation by falling into the pit of religious lies and deception.

Thank you. :)

Love,

Steadfast

Candace
06-21-2008, 10:13 AM
Dear Candace,

The verses you posted are very appropriate for the information I am posting. As long as we are aware of what is coming up on the religious horizon, we will not become a blind man following a blind man and lose salvation by falling into the pit of religious lies and deception.

Thank you. :)

Love,

Steadfast[/b]

Hello Steadfast,

Since you made your thank you public, I will make my reply to you public as well:

Dear Steadfast,

At least when a member posts material from the Society, they are being upfront about the source of the material. There&#39;s no guessing "where did that come from?"

Not crediting your source and altering the title of the article is an unusual thing for a member to do. It raised some red flags.

If you have read any of my other posts on this site, then you know how I feel about the WTS and what they publish. I give credit where credit is due. The WTS is the only group that is teaching the basic core doctrines worldwide, but weeds have infiltrated the congregation.

(Matthew 13:24-30) . . .Another illustration he set before them, saying: “The kingdom of the heavens has become like a man that sowed fine seed in his field. 25 While men were sleeping, his enemy came and oversowed weeds in among the wheat, and left. 26 When the blade sprouted and produced fruit, then the weeds appeared also. 27 So the slaves of the householder came up and said to him, ‘Master, did you not sow fine seed in your field? How, then, does it come to have weeds?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy, a man, did this.’ They said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go out and collect them?’ 29 He said, ‘No; that by no chance, while collecting the weeds, YOU uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest; and in the harvest season I will tell the reapers, First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up, then go to gathering the wheat into my storehouse.’”


(Matthew 13:37-43) . . .: “The sower of the fine seed is the Son of man; 38 the field is the world; as for the fine seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; but the weeds are the sons of the wicked one, 39 and the enemy that sowed them is the Devil. The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels. 40 Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. 41 The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom all things that cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness, 42 and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where [their] weeping and the gnashing of [their] teeth will be. 43 At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let him that has ears listen.

Until the harvest of the weeds I guess we can expect good and bad to be published by the WTS. I also recognize that Jehovah&#39;s spirit is working through brothers and sisters who may or may not be active JW&#39;s. Whether a person is active or inactive, disfellowshipped, or not, I test whether their expressions are in harmony with the Bible.

People like Ronald Weinland and Berit Kjos are not directing people to the true God, Jehovah. They are good at publishing a lot of material, but their efforts are in vain because they are not directing people to the true source of salvation. They believe Jesus is God, therefore they must be blind guides.

Student&#39;s Life Application Bible, Matt. 7:22, 23

On Judgment day many will tell me, &#39;Lord, Lord, we prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name. But I will reply, &#39;I never knew you. Go away; the things you did were unauthorized.&#39; (emphasis added)

The Message Bible, Matt. 21-23

"Knowing the correct password—saying &#39;Master, Master,&#39; for instance— isn&#39;t going to get you anywhere with me. What is required is serious obedience—doing what my Father wills. I can see it now—at the Final Judgment thousands strutting up to me and saying, &#39;Master, we preached the Message, we bashed the demons, our God-sponsored projects had everyone talking.&#39; And do you know what I am going to say? &#39;You missed the boat. All you did was use me to make yourselves important. You don&#39;t impress me one bit. You&#39;re out of here.&#39; (emphasis added)

Satan would like nothing more than to have people believe they are on the right path, when in fact, they are not. He is the master of deception. He doesn&#39;t care how he diverts someone off the right path, as long as he accomplishes his goal.

Take care,
Candace

Steadfast
06-21-2008, 01:50 PM
Dear Candace,

If you want to question source material, then I suggest you also go back through WT history and challenge theirs also. I&#39;ve done my homework…have you? Have you personally examined every source the WT has used over the years? And from the evidence, even though the WT teaches true core doctrine, is their prophecy true? How much failed prophecy has the WT put forth over the years as truth with nothing but failed claims and dates? Can you believe their prophecy?

I don&#39;t always source my material because I have been publically attacked for posting information I know to be true, even though the source may believe other doctrines. I have no problem with editing an article and presenting it for the board&#39;s consideration. From now on though, I will add a disclaimer that the article is not an original by me and leave it to you to track down where it comes from and if the information is viable based on your standards. :185:

Before you start judging people, you better be sure that Jesus is going to judge the world on whether they believe that he is God….or in a hellfire….or an immortal soul. Study the book of Revelation closely and you will find the only reason a person will lose their salvation is by taking the mark of the beast:

Rev 13:16-17 And it causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark on their right hand, or in their foreheads, even that not any might buy or sell except those having the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of its name.

Rev 14:9-10 And a third angel followed them, saying with a great voice, If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark in his forehead or in his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the anger of God, having been mixed undiluted in the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet doing signs before it, (by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast), and those who had worshiped his image. The two were thrown alive into the Lake of Fire burning with brimstone.

What I have been doing is presenting information, based on demonstrable evidence, that the mark of the beast is going to be based on accepting a False Messiah, as outlined in Revelation 6:

Rev 6:2 And I saw. And behold a white horse! And he sitting on it had a bow. And a crown was given to him, and he went forth conquering and to conquer.

Since the other three horses are seen riding on the earth at the beginning of the great tribulation, it doesn&#39;t make any sense at all that the white horse in Revelation 6 would be riding from heaven. The beginning of the great tribulation is not the time for Jesus to ride…it is at the end. We don&#39;t have to guess who this white horse rider is in Revelation 19, he is clearly identified:

Rev 19:11 And I saw Heaven opened. And behold, a white horse! And He sitting on him was called Faithful and True. And in righteousness He judges and makes war.

Rev 19:12 And His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head many crowns. And He had a name written, one that no one knew except Himself.

Rev 19:13 And He had been clothed in a garment dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

Rev 19:14 And the armies in Heaven followed Him on white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Rev 19:15 And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, so that with it He should strike the nations. And He will shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the winepress of the wine of the anger and of the wrath of Almighty God.

Rev 19:16 And He has on His garment, and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

Love,

Steadfast

Candace
06-21-2008, 06:21 PM
Hi Steadfast,

I wasn&#39;t questioning your source, but rather the fact that the source was not cited. Maybe I&#39;m more sensitive to these issues about copying and pasting information and citing the source of the material because my secular job is concerned with that issue. There is a certain protocol involved when using material authored by another person, whether you are sharing that information on the internet, in a magazine, or another kind of publication.

When it comes to WT publications, I examine the material to see if it is in harmony with the Bible. That is my main concern. I appreciate how the brothers and sisters here can discuss material published by the Society and freely talk about the good, the bad, and the ugly. It&#39;s no secret that the Society has been under an operation of error when it comes to prophecy. It takes wisdom, insight, and discernment to sort out the good from the bad, but we have Jehovah&#39;s spirit to help us, and it is evident he is pouring out his spirit on others to also help us.

I guess what it boils down to is the question of who is in a better position to help me understand the Bible from Jehovah&#39;s point of view, brothers and sisters who are striving to remain faithful to Jehovah and his son Jesus Christ, or people who don&#39;t know Jehovah and think that Jesus is God? I would hate to see anyone be sidetracked from serving the true God, Jehovah. I&#39;m sure you are concerned about that too.

Your point of contention is that the rider of the white horse mentioned in Rev. 6:2 is a false messiah, and that rider is not Jesus Christ. Let&#39;s look at that scripture and the cross reference scriptures that go along with it.

(Revelation 6:2) 2 And I saw, and, look! a white horse; and the one seated upon it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went forth conquering and to complete his conquest.

(Job 39:25) As soon as the horn blows it says Aha! And from far off it smells the battle, The uproar of chiefs and the war cry.



(Proverbs 21:31) The horse is something prepared for the day of battle, but salvation belongs to Jehovah.



(Revelation 19:11) And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness.



(Psalm 45:4) 4 And in your splendor go on to success; Ride in the cause of truth and humility [and] righteousness, And your right hand will instruct you in fear-inspiring things.



(2 Kings 9:24) . . .And Je′hu himself filled his hand with a bow and proceeded to shoot Je‧ho′ram between the arms, so that the arrow came out at his heart, and he collapsed in his war chariot. . .

(Genesis 49:10) The scepter will not turn aside from Judah, neither the commander’s staff from between his feet, until Shi′loh comes; and to him the obedience of the peoples will belong.



(Psalm 21:3) For you proceeded to meet him with blessings of good, [And] to place on his head a crown of refined gold.



(Ezekiel 21:27) A ruin, a ruin, a ruin I shall make it. As for this also, it will certainly become no [one’s] until he comes who has the legal right, and I must give [it] to him.’



(Daniel 7:14) And to him there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin.



(Revelation 14:14) And I saw, and, look! a white cloud, and upon the cloud someone seated like a son of man, with a golden crown on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand.

(Psalm 110:2) The rod of your strength Jehovah will send out of Zion, [saying:] “Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.”



(Revelation 12:7) And war broke out in heaven: Mi′cha‧el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled

(Revelation 16:14) They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.



(Revelation 17:14) These will battle with the Lamb, but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those called and chosen and faithful with him [will do so].”



I fail to see how the scriptures support the conclusion that you came to Steadfast. Since that might be my shortcoming, I invite the members of the board to help me see where my understanding needs to be adjusted.

Take care,
Candace

Berean
06-21-2008, 07:07 PM
I wasn&#39;t questioning your source, but rather the fact that the source was not cited. Maybe I&#39;m more sensitive to these issues about copying and pasting information and citing the source of the material because my secular job is concerned with that issue. There is a certain protocol involved when using material authored by another person, whether you are sharing that information on the internet, in a magazine, or another kind of publication.[/b]
You are not the only one concerned about that, I have pointed this out to Steadfast before, but she did not react. For instance, I recall a thread by Steadfast about Hegelian dialectic, which was copied verbatim off another site. The consequence of this is that you may be posting material that you don&#39;t actually know anything about. I happen to know a little bit about Hegelian dialectic, so I could post a meaningful reply that I came up with myself, but sadly, this did not lead to any meaningful discussion, as I had expected.

Then there is also the legal issue, of course. By far, most of the material available on the Internet is copyrighted, and should never be copied in large parts, especially without citing sources. A notable exception is Wikipedia, and there is also a provision called fair use (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use), but in most cases, copy-pasting is not done.

It would be better if you just posted a link instead. If you feel that such a link goes to a questionable website, it would be best not to post text on that website either, instead focusing on writing down your own thoughts - it will make you come across as a much more genuine person when you write things in your own words.

Steadfast
06-21-2008, 10:00 PM
Dear Candace,

Many people contend that the first white horse rider is Jesus Christ, and many do not, but the first white horse rider still appears at the first seal:

Rev 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures like a sound of thunder, saying, Come and see.

Rev 6:2 And I saw. And behold a white horse! And he sitting on it had a bow. And a crown was given to him, and he went forth conquering and to conquer.

The seventh seal opens before the angels are given their trumpets to blow:

Rev 8:1 And when He opened the seventh seal, there was silence in Heaven for about half an hour.

Rev 8:2 And I saw the seven angels who stood before God, and seven trumpets were given to them.

Rev 8:6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.

Rev 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mixed with blood, and they were cast on the earth. And the third part of trees was burned up, and all green grass was burned up.

Try as I may, I cannot find anywhere in Revelation where trumpets blow before the seals open. If you can find something, please draw it to my attention.

Jesus doesn&#39;t return until the 7th trumpet sounds, as I have pointed out on previous posts.

As far as the crowns, the word crown is applied at Revelation 6 and comes from the Greek word stephanos. The crown that Jesus wears in Revelation 19 comes from the Greek word diadema. I find it interesting that two different Greek words are used.

By the way, I see Satan giving the crown to the False Messiah in Revelation 6...not Jehovah. Doesn&#39;t Satan&#39;s kingdom come first before the Millenium?

As far as using information from other websites, you and Berean make fair points, so considering that a lot of the information may be copyrighted, I will cite the author but only if I am using the entire article.

Being outside the arrangement of the Watchtower since 2004 has shown me just how arrogant and self-righteous many JWs are. For the most part, they think they have cornered the truth, when in fact just the opposite may be true. Every once in awhile, I encounter a JW who tries to think for himself and is willing to discuss scripture for the sake of scripture. I&#39;m sure if the WT was aware of this, they would haul them into the back room.

Being outside the arrangement of the Watchtower since 2004 has opened my eyes to a lot of truths. In my ongoing public ministry, I have talked with many who:

1. Don&#39;t believe that Jesus Christ is Almighty God.
2. Don&#39;t believe in a trinity.
3. Don&#39;t believe in hellfire.
4. Don&#39;t believe in immortal soul.
5. Don&#39;t believe the earth will be destroyed.

Many do believe:

1. Jehovah is God Almighty.
2. Jesus Christ is the ransom from sin and death.
3. Jesus Christ is his only-begotten Son.
4. Believe that hell is the grave.
5. Believe that humans sleep in the grave waiting for a resurrection.
6. Earth will be an earth-wide paradise during the Millenium of a 1000 years.
7. There will be a resurrection of the righteous and unrighteous.

Interestingly though, many also understand that:

1. A pre-tribulation rapture (first resurrection) is wrong.

2. A one-world government-one world religion will rule the world for 3-1/2 years.

3. The Vatican is behind the one world government-one world religion in their final quest to rule the world.

4. Many understand the concept of this False Messiah, who is behind him and why, and how he will come on the world scene at the beginning of the great tribulation.

It was me who had to play catch-up. So I never assume anymore that I have cornered the truth, because frankly, I know I haven&#39;t. There are many fine, sincere Christians who can teach JWs a thing or two, and it&#39;s my privilege to know them.

I used to feel exactly as you do, that accepting the core doctrines as truth was the indicator that the truth is being taught by that organization. If that is so, where do those who don&#39;t belong to the WT make a showing even though they understand some of the same truths JWs do?

The simple truth, as I see it, is that Jesus Christ won&#39;t be using core doctrines as the measurement for salvation, as the book of Revelation shows. The mark of the beast is an act of idolatry…willingly rejecting Jesus Christ, the True Messiah, for a False one. What is now taking place in &#39;New Age Christianity&#39; confirms this.

Dear Brother Berean: The dialectic principle is simple: Take two opposing beliefs or opinions – thesis vs. antithesis…put them together and let them fight it out until synthesis is achieved. There isn&#39;t anything complicated about it at all. This is exactly what the New World Order is doing right now, and out of thesis-antithesis will arise synthesis…the one world government-one world religion.

Love,

Steadfast

Candace
06-22-2008, 10:50 AM
Hi Steadfast,

Okay, let&#39;s take a closer look at this:

(Revelation 6:2) . . .And I saw, and, look! a white horse; and the one seated upon it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went forth conquering and to complete his conquest.

It states that the rider of the horse went forth conquering. One of the cross reference scriptures for the word conquering is Rev. 12:7:

(Revelation 12:7) And war broke out in heaven: Mi′cha‧el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled

To me this shows that the rider of the white horse is the one doing the conquering and one of his first conquests is ridding the heavens of Satan and the demons.

Let&#39;s pick up where we left off in verse 8:

(Revelation 12:8-10) . . .but it did not prevail, neither was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven say:

“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God!

When I read these scriptures I see how it agrees with what I read in Rev. 6:2. The way I see it, the Lamb opens the first seal, which gives us a piece of information as to the sequence of events that are to follow. The rider goes forth conquering. His first conquest is ridding the heavens of Satan and the demons. This brings woe to the earth. The events from Rev. 6:3 onward correspond to the woe that has come upon the earth as a result of Satan&#39;s ouster.

Commentary from the People&#39;s New Testament (http://pnt.biblecommenter.com/revelation/6.htm):

4) THE CROWN. A crown was given to him. This crown is not the diadem ( diadema ) but the garland crown ( stephanos ). The last was the crown given as a reward for victory in battle, for great achievements or for victory in games. The Hero of chapter 19 wears many diadems, kingly crowns (Re 19:12), but this rider wears the garland crown, the stephanos. It is important to note this distinction.

From Weymouth New Testament (http://weymouthbible.com/revelation/6.htm):

Rev: 6:2 And I looked and a white horse appeared, and its rider carried a bow; and a victor&#39;s wreath was given to him; and he went out conquering and in order to conquer.

It seems appropriate to me that Jesus would be given the victor&#39;s wreath at the beginning of his ride because his being victorious in his conquest is a sure thing.

If the rider of the white horse is not Jesus, then surely there would be a scripture that identifies the rider.

(Revelation 19:11) . . .And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. . . .

One of the cross references for white horse is Rev. 6:2.

I don&#39;t really understand how you arrived at your conclusion that Jesus riding the white horse in Rev. 19:11 is the beginning of his ride, so maybe someone else can more clearly explain this. I believe Revelation chapter 19 is describing events that happen towards the end of his ride on the white horse.

Berean
06-22-2008, 11:31 AM
Dear Brother Berean: The dialectic principle is simple: Take two opposing beliefs or opinions – thesis vs. antithesis…put them together and let them fight it out until synthesis is achieved. There isn&#39;t anything complicated about it at all. This is exactly what the New World Order is doing right now, and out of thesis-antithesis will arise synthesis…the one world government-one world religion.[/b]
Thank you so much for replying! :) The thing with Hegel&#39;s thesis-antithesis proposal, apart from that it is a bit too simplistic, is that the synthesis that arises will turn into a thesis itself, and then a new antithesis would arrive to challenge that thesis. Of course, one might argue that in this case God&#39;s kingdom would be that antithesis when the NWO has become the thesis, but I think that would be stretching what Hegel had intended to explain, namely societal changes. Besides, supernatural concepts such as the Kingdom of God do not conform to man-made theories, and I am fairly sure that Hegel did not have such a thing in mind.

Sketch
06-22-2008, 11:45 AM
<div class='quotemain'>Dear Brother Berean: The dialectic principle is simple: Take two opposing beliefs or opinions – thesis vs. antithesis…put them together and let them fight it out until synthesis is achieved. There isn&#39;t anything complicated about it at all. This is exactly what the New World Order is doing right now, and out of thesis-antithesis will arise synthesis…the one world government-one world religion.[/b]
Thank you so much for replying! :) The thing with Hegel&#39;s thesis-antithesis proposal, apart from that it is a bit too simplistic, is that the synthesis that arises will turn into a thesis itself, and then a new antithesis would arrive to challenge that thesis. Of course, one might argue that in this case God&#39;s kingdom would be that antithesis when the NWO has become the thesis, but I think that would be stretching what Hegel had intended to explain, namely societal changes. Besides, supernatural concepts such as the Kingdom of God do not conform to man-made theories, and I am fairly sure that Hegel did not have such a thing in mind.
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I own EVERY book written by Dr. Suess and I STILL have NO idea what y&#39;all are talking about...

/ I mean, that didn&#39;t even RHYME...

Steadfast
06-22-2008, 02:21 PM
Dear Candace,

My first question is: How do we know that the white horse rider and Michael are the same entity?

Second question is: If Jesus is riding on the earth conquering at the 1st seal, what is he doing, and who is he conquering at this point in time?

You reference Revelation 12:7 concerning Michael conquering, but isn&#39;t that done in heaven? It seems to me that that four horsemen are riding on the earth. To me, it would be torturing the verses to make the white horse rider conquering in heaven and the other three riding on the earth. I understand how the WT interprets these verses, but the present evidence of a False Messiah coming on the world scene first makes me see this white horse rider differently.

This False Messiah will be so convincing that many will be deceived by him. How do we know? Many Christians, including my own daughter, are expecting Jesus to return at the beginning of the great tribulation. They expect to be swept away in a pre-tribulation rapture/first resurrection and miss the great trib entirely. We have examined the timing of the first resurrection numerous times on this forum, and many of us see that the true rapture/first resurrection takes place at the 7th and final trumpet in Revelation. This is also the same event where Jesus returns for his Bride.

IMO, the False Messianic kingdom rules for 3-1/2 years under the direction of the one world government-one world religion and then the True Kingdom under Jesus Christ is put into motion on earth when he returns in Revelation 19. The fact that Satan is referenced by Jesus as an angel of light tells me that it would be entirely appropriate for Satan&#39;s False Messiah to appear as a rider on a white horse.

Watching the evidence of this False Messiah unfold among New Age Christians as it is explained in Reinventing Jesus Christ and other New Age information is what brought me to my conclusion. It also totally harmonizes with what Jesus Christ told us, and the book of Revelation reveals.

Jesus said:

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ! Or, There! Do not believe it.

Matthew 24:26 Therefore if they shall say to you, Behold, He is in the desert! Do not go out. Behold, He is in the secret rooms! Do not believe it.

My whole purpose in bringing the New Age information to the forum was to alert the friends about this diabolical plan. I continue to watch these events unfold along with all of you.


Dear Brother Berean: You are correct in your explanation of the Hegelian dialectic in a general way, but more specifically, the Jesuits have adopted this principle as their foundational method of operation in eventually bringing the world into a one-world government-one world religion.

Over the centuries, so much pain has been caused by forcing two opposing political and religious factions into constant confrontation, that the relief (synthesis) will be acceptance of Satan&#39;s pseudo &#39;peaceful&#39; kingdom on earth.

It is brilliant, but extremely perverse, as the historical facts show. In other words, Satan causes the disease and then rushes in with the cure.

Love,

Steadfast

Candace
06-22-2008, 03:01 PM
Dear Candace,

My first question is: How do we know that the white horse rider and Michael are the same entity?[/b]

The cross reference scriptures.


Second question is: If Jesus is riding on the earth conquering at the 1st seal, what is he doing, and who is he conquering at this point in time?[/b]

I never said Jesus is riding on the earth conquering at the 1st seal, did I?


You reference Revelation 12:7 concerning Michael conquering, but isn&#39;t that done in heaven?[/b]

I used a cross reference. It was not a reference I just picked randomly. Yes, the conquering is done in heaven, as the scripture clearly explains.


It seems to me that that four horsemen are riding on the earth. To me, it would be torturing the verses to make the white horse rider conquering in heaven and the other three riding on the earth. I understand how the WT interprets these verses, but the present evidence of a False Messiah coming on the world scene first makes me see this white horse rider differently.[/b]

I thought everyone knew that the war in heaven is what kicks off the woe on the earth. The Bible clearly shows the order of events. First the war in heaven, then the woe on the earth.

Where are you getting your ideas about a False Messiah?

(Matthew 24:23-28) . . .“Then if anyone says to YOU, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones. 25 Look! I have forewarned YOU. 26 Therefore, if people say to YOU, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner chambers,’ do not believe it. 27 For just as the lightning comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 28 Wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.

(1 Timothy 4:7) . . .But turn down the false stories which violate what is holy and which old women tell. . . .


This False Messiah will be so convincing that many will be deceived by him. How do we know? Many Christians, including my own daughter, are expecting Jesus to return at the beginning of the great tribulation. They expect to be swept away in a pre-tribulation rapture/first resurrection and miss the great trib entirely. We have examined the timing of the first resurrection numerous times on this forum, and many of us see that the true rapture/first resurrection takes place at the 7th and final trumpet in Revelation. This is also the same event where Jesus returns for his Bride.[/b]

I agree, the 1st resurrection takes place at the last trumpet.


IMO, the False Messianic kingdom rules for 3-1/2 years under the direction of the one world government-one world religion and then the True Kingdom under Jesus Christ is put into motion on earth when he returns in Revelation 19. The fact that Satan is referenced by Jesus as an angel of light tells me that it would be entirely appropriate for Satan&#39;s False Messiah to appear as a rider on a white horse.

Watching the evidence of this False Messiah unfold among New Age Christians as it is explained in Reinventing Jesus Christ and other New Age information is what brought me to my conclusion. It also totally harmonizes with what Jesus Christ told us, and the book of Revelation reveals.

Jesus said:

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ! Or, There! Do not believe it.

Matthew 24:26 Therefore if they shall say to you, Behold, He is in the desert! Do not go out. Behold, He is in the secret rooms! Do not believe it.

My whole purpose in bringing the New Age information to the forum was to alert the friends about this diabolical plan. I continue to watch these events unfold along with all of you.


Love,

Steadfast[/b]

I guess we&#39;ll just have to agree to disagree for now. You are firmly convinced that your perspective is correct. I have not been swayed from mine.

Peace,
Candace

James
06-22-2008, 03:26 PM
Oprah&#39;s remarks rile some evangelical Christians
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Oprah Winfrey has offended evangelical Christians, and they are fighting back.For the first time, 23 Christian newspapers across the country united for a joint investigative project. Their aim was to explore the spiritual beliefs of the popular entertainment mogul.

An article titled “Oprah’s God” ran in all the papers.“There are many paths to what you call God,” Oprah says.

When someone in the audience challenges that Jesus said he was the only way, Oprah retorts, “There couldn’t possibly be just one way.”...


agape,
James

Molly
06-22-2008, 03:29 PM
Dear Steadfast-

I for one would like to thank you for the information that you have brought to our attention about the New Age Religion, the synthesis concept, and the suggestion that the first white horse is not ridden by Christ.

The New Age Religion seems to be everywhere and gaining ground in acceptance. It is perfect to fulfill scripture by its anti-Christ nature.

As time progresses, it is true that synthesis is continually turned into new thesis vs. antithesis, but as this will be Satan&#39;s last ditch effort, that is not a consideration and we know what the end is regardless. The synthesis in this case will be shortlived.

As for the first white horse being other than Christ makes perfect sense, particularly as the crowns are different, the time frame is wrong, and the conquest is associated with the wars and reports of wars that come before the end starts, that is, before Christ&#39;s return. As for the crowns, even Paul in his race analogy differentiated between the corruptible and the incorruptible crowns (1 Cor. 9: 24,25) I think that is what differentiates the crowns in Revelations as well.

Just wanted you to know that your input is appreciated.

Molly