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Kenneth
02-06-2007, 02:07 PM
What impact has music had on our youth?

The 1960s could be summed up in three words 'Youth, Hedonism and Modernity' a kind of threefold cord shrouded in music. For the first time in history the youth or baby boomer generation as they became known had spending power. Teenagers were able to buy record players for their bedrooms, hang posters on their walls of groups and singers and dance the night away as the bedroom became a shrine for there idols. In the 1960s youths were a clear target for Satan. He could snatch then away form the family into a new culture of pop and rebellion. They were now pawn's in his new game.

Music in 1950s and 60s gave rise to sub-culture groups that clearly displayed outward rebellion to society. Out of it came the beatniks with it's attitude of self and instant gratification whose influence was in modern American jazz. Jack Kerouac and other like him drove Beatnik culture in the pursuit of new artistic vision as they were fuelled by drugs and drunkenness. Other new group of rebels the were the Mod's and rockers who were branded 'Folk Devils' when a series of fights broke out at seaside towns. Again theses were driven by drugs and music. By the mid sixties the hippies had wage war on society. The Beatles had brought out St Pepper and for the rest of the decade engage in self-indulgence and other such mysticisms.

Thus between the 1970s and on into post-modernity Satan has used the music industry as a weapon against the innocence of youth. The 1950s and 60s was just a launch pad of a social and cataclysmic upheaval of secularization, consumerism and narcissism that reeked havoc on society. I was never a great admirer of Margaret Thatcher but one thing was for sure when she stated: "We are reaping what was sown in the sixties… fashionable theories and permissive claptrap set the scene for society in which the old virtues of discipline and restraint were denigrated".

Much of the music and fashion has made inroads into the youths of JWs today and has affected their way of thinking. If Satan had duped the Bible students in 1914 into the operation of error then what an error it would be to get involved and be a pawn in the music industry to the extent that you become an idol or idolized others.

Kenneth

Shibboleth
02-06-2007, 02:13 PM
Daniel 3

5 (http://) that at the time that YOU hear the sound of the horn, the pipe, the zither, the triangular harp, the stringed instrument, the bagpipe and all sorts of musical instruments, YOU fall down and worship the image of gold that Neb·u·chad·nez´zar the king has set up.[/b]

Nambo
02-06-2007, 04:36 PM
Yes it was that Black Sabbath track, "War Pigs" that made me think about war, how it was governments who started wars but then got the people to do the killing for them, killing people I had no quarrell with, and who probably had no quarrell with me.

So I left the millitary.

Kenneth
02-06-2007, 04:51 PM
There you go Nambo that proves the point you were influenced by the music of the day Ozzy told you to give it up and get out.





kenneth


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Candace
02-06-2007, 04:56 PM
Kenneth, are you by any chance from Boston? I&#39;m pretty sure the term you mean to use is "pawn" not "porn." If you are using voice recognition software and are from Boston, that could account for the difference. ;)

I&#39;m a sixties baby myself and grew up on rock and roll. You have no idea how pervasive music is until you start trying to harmonize your life with Bible teachings and find that all this music is s-o-o-o-o-o-o wrapped up in your heart. Music has a very powerful effect. If I hear songs from the 60&#39;s and 70&#39;s that were near and dear to my heart when I was a teenager they have a noticeable effect on me, even today.

Kenneth
02-06-2007, 05:11 PM
Yes you are right I knew this dyslexia would get me into trouble someday. I will rectify the mistake ASAP.





Kenneth </span>

Candace
02-06-2007, 05:18 PM
LOL, I just noticed you are from the UK, but I hear there&#39;s a Boston there too!

Kenneth
02-06-2007, 05:33 PM
Boston Lincolnshire is a small town in England which the city in the US was named after, so the story goes



Kenneth

Jeshurun
02-06-2007, 11:43 PM
I don&#39;t think it&#39;s a coincidence that the vast majority of this musical influence came from the same place as the oligarchs&#39; throne, London.

Sorry Kenneth :ph34r:

olrono
02-07-2007, 12:19 AM
What impact has music had on our youth?

The 1960s could be summed up in three words &#39;Youth, Hedonism and Modernity&#39; a kind of threefold cord shrouded in music. For the first time in history the youth or baby boomer generation as they became known had spending power. Teenagers were able to buy record players for their bedrooms, hang posters on their walls of groups and singers and dance the night away as the bedroom became a shrine for there idols. In the 1960s youths were a clear target for Satan. He could snatch then away form the family into a new culture of pop and rebellion. They were now pawn&#39;s in his new game.

Music in 1950s and 60s gave rise to sub-culture groups that clearly displayed outward rebellion to society. Out of it came the beatniks with it&#39;s attitude of self and instant gratification whose influence was in modern American jazz. Jack Kerouac and other like him drove Beatnik culture in the pursuit of new artistic vision as they were fuelled by drugs and drunkenness. Other new group of rebels the were the Mod&#39;s and rockers who were branded &#39;Folk Devils&#39; when a series of fights broke out at seaside towns. Again theses were driven by drugs and the music. By the mid sixties the hippies had wage war on society. The Beatles had brought out St Pepper and for the rest of the decade engage in self-indulgence and other such mysticisms.

Thus between the 1970s and on into post-modernity Satan has used the music industry as a weapon against the innocence of youth. The 1950s and 60s was just a launch pad of a social and cataclysmic upheaval of secularization, consumerism and narcissism that reeked havoc on society. I was never a great admirer of Margaret Thatcher but one thing was for sure when she stated: "We are reaping what was sown in the sixties… fashionable theories and permissive claptrap set the scene for society in which the old virtues of discipline and restraint were denigrated".

Much of the music and fashion has made inroads into the youths of JWs today and has affected their way of thinking. If Satan had duped the Bible students in 1914 into the operation of error then what an error it would be to get involved and be a pawn in the music industry to the extent that you become an idol or idolized others.

Kenneth[/b]

I’ll tell you another story, In 61, 62, I was young and really into the music seine, I knew every group and single on the charts, and I remember seeing these “mop heads” on the news getting off that airplane and I remember thinking, “Who are those guy’s? and how did all those girls know about them and get out of school to go to the airport and see them??? Well I think you all can figure that out!

Nambo
02-07-2007, 03:04 AM
I&#39;ll tell you another story, In 61, 62, I was young and really into the music seine, I knew every group and single on the charts, and I remember seeing these "mop heads" on the news getting off that airplane and I remember thinking, "Who are those guy&#39;s? and how did all those girls know about them and get out of school to go to the airport and see them??? Well I think you all can figure that out! [/b]

About the most blasphemous and eveil record ever made must be that John Lennon song, "Imagine", yeah right, imagine a world with no God and us all happy under a One World Order!

Yet Ironically, the stuff the society would most warn against, Black Sabboth, taught me that the World is run by Satan and that people unknowingly worship him, and not in a positive sense, that drugs are bad, ("your giving death a kiss"), that the earths heading towards some sort of Nucleur catastropy and its a good idea to leave Earth. Also that worshipping God is good, ("now ive seen the truth yes Ive seen the light and Ive changed my ways"),
No wonder I had the mindset to accept the "Truth" the first time the JWs knocked on my door, hey, they should play this stuff at assemblies.

Punk as well, sociologists have reported that the Punk generation have grown up to be quite good citizens due to the movements rejection of the glamourous music Idols that preceeded them, and thier rejection of materialism and the whole greedy capitalist society, thats why we made our own clothes.
Contrast that with the youth of today who have to have designer labels at primary school and think its good to be on Big Brother.

Of course most of these musicians arent Christians so you are going to get a lot of worldly ways but proper musicians are creative people who have the moral fortitude to get a message across in a form that people want to hear.
Look at the late 60s and the effect anti vietnam war music moved the youth to campaign against it!, in fact it shows how shallow modern youth is in that whilst world war 3 is breaking out they just want to sing about thier bitches.

My point being that Satans not behind every musician and all music is evil, as the society would have us belive.
Of course its tainted with the worldly ideas that the world has anyway, especially immorality, but still many are, or where, sighing and groaning at the world of today and in a form that can effect young ones. (at least in my generation, and I see its Niel Young still who seems to be the only one doing it now).

Jeshurun
02-07-2007, 03:26 AM
Yet Ironically, the stuff the society would most warn against, Black Sabboth, taught me that the World is run by Satan and that people unknowingly worship him, and not in a positive sense, that drugs are bad, ("your giving death a kiss"), that the earths heading towards some sort of Nucleur catastropy and its a good idea to leave Earth. Also that worshipping God is good, ("now ive seen the truth yes Ive seen the light and Ive changed my ways"),[/b]

I too, learned the deep truths of the world from Black Sabbath. My closest friends in the truth and myself would play their records whenever we could. Remember the song, "Lord of this World"?

But I had to peel the cover off of the album, "Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath" so my mother wouldn&#39;t see it and have a heart attack.

juffowup
02-07-2007, 07:06 PM
Music is an influence. Whether it is a good influence or a bad influence depends on the music, the person, and their circumstances. This is why I feel it is stupid to categorically bad a certain category or genre of music.

I for one, listened to Metallica growing up. How many times did my mother throw those CD&#39;s away? Who knows. But listening to it, I felt, allowed me to deal with and even identify with feelings and thoughts I had inside me, before I could quite articulate them for myself. I still have a soft spot for that band, even if they are greedy sellouts now.

But, one of the big stories of the day were how some youths listened to "Fade to Black" and decided to commit suicide. The way this music affected them was obviously way differently than it affected me.

Which is why parents need to be involved in what goes on with their kids. And not like my mom, who just saw it was heavy metal and ditched it. Listen to the music. Ask why your kids like it, or identify with it. Decide whether you are objecting to the content and attitudes or just don&#39;t personally like the style. If you object to the content, are you doing so on scriptural grounds? And if you are objecting on scriptural grounds, are you living your life and making your entertainment choices in harmony with them?

For example, I know a witness parent who made their kids throw out sexually suggestive music and violent video games. But they took them to see every new James Bond on opening night. Hmmm... what message does this send? Also, if you criticize their music but sing along to the "Golden" oldies... Yummy yummy I got love in my tummy? Under the boardwalk we&#39;ll be makin&#39; love? Again, hmmm....

Music can have a huge impact, positive and negative, on people, and not just young people. As a practical point in living in this old system of things, it is up to us as servants of Jah and responsible parents to make sure only the positives get through to our kids and ourselves.

Jinnvisible
02-08-2007, 09:32 AM
Hi Kenneth,

I changed some of the words in your initial post to things to do with food (in orange). I believe music is a gift from Jehovah that can be abused in the same way as pretty much anything. Recent sutdies involving teaching methods in schools have shown that learning to play a musical instrument increases learning abillities in all other areas of the students curiculum. It is a long term commitment requiring focus and discipline and can teach an individual the benefit of hard work applied over the long term. Music is also used in many therapy tecniques for disabled people.

Degenerate musicians are not of course restricted to the modern age. Classical musicians were peadophiles, fornicators, homosexuals and drunkards.

I agree with you concerning the power of music for destructive behaviour. Yet those things are easily shown. What you may never see is the man who heard a song and decided not to kill himself or to become one of Jehovah`s witnesses or smile twice more that day. Or the song that made a person pick up the piece of rubbish in front of your house and put it in the bin so that you never saw it. Or the song that two people made love to when they created another being in God`s image. That is why Soloman explained that God judges according to the things unseen.</span>


What impact has Food had on our youth?

The 1960s could be summed up in three words &#39;Youth, Hedonism and Modernity&#39; a kind of threefold cord shrouded in Cheese spread. For the first time in history the youth or baby boomer generation as they became known had spending power. Teenagers were able to buy Doritos for their bedrooms, Soup can posters on their walls of groups and singers and dance the night away as the bedroom became a shrine for there snacks. In the 1960s youths were a clear target for Satan. He could snatch then away form the family into a new culture of Fast Food. They were now pawn&#39;s in his new game.

Music in 1950s and 60s gave rise to cuisine that clearly displayed outward rebellion to society. Out of it came the hot dog stands with it&#39;s attitude of self and instant gratification whose influence was in modern fried chicken. Jack Kerouac and other like him drove Beatnik culture in the pursuit of new artistic vision as they were fuelled by candy and burgers. Other new group of rebels the were the Mod&#39;s and rockers who were branded &#39;Folk Devils&#39; when a series of fights broke out at seaside towns. Again theses were driven by fish and the chips. By the mid sixties the hippies had wage war on society. The Cola co. had brought out Dr Pepper and for the rest of the decade engage in self-indulgence and other such mysticisms.

Thus between the 1970s and on into post-modernity Satan has used the food industry as a weapon against the innocence of youth. The 1950s and 60s was just a launch pad of a social and cataclysmic upheaval of secularization, consumerism and narcissism that reeked havoc on society. I was never a great admirer of Margaret Thatcher but one thing was for sure when she stated: "We are reaping what was sown in the sixties… fashionable theories and permissive claptrap set the scene for society in which the old virtues of discipline and restraint were denigrated".

Much of the food and fashion has made inroads into the youths of JWs today and has affected their way of thinking. If Satan had duped the Bible students in 1914 into the operation of error then what an error it would be to get involved and be a prawn in the food industry to the extent that you become a glutton or <span style="color:#ff8c00">glutonise others.

Kenneth
02-08-2007, 02:26 PM
Hi Jin

Yes music is a thing of beauty, and a reckoning for good in stimulating the mind and up-building the spirit. However, Music needs to be enjoyed and kept it in its rightful place.

Nevertheless, the dark-side of it does permeate throughout society and runs deep into the minds of our youth. Some argue that music is seen from a pluralist view point and it&#39;s a reflection of trends in society. Probably though it&#39;s Marxist in character and controls society by dictating its fashions and trends. Much of which springs from sub-cultures that eventually make their way into the mainstream as big businesses squeeze every drop out of those caught up in today&#39;s fads and fashion.

And yes your revamp fits well.

Kenneth</span></span> </span>

Jinnvisible
02-09-2007, 03:08 PM
Hi Kenneth,

Marxism; subculture, socialogical control elements, big business, are all things to be taken into account. In my analysis they all pale in significance when stood next to 400 years of chatel slavery through which blues music has evolved, out of human suffering, and effected the music of our times.

Nambo
02-09-2007, 08:54 PM
Hi Kenneth,

Marxism; subculture, socialogical control elements, big business, are all things to be taken into account. In my analysis they all pale in significance when stood next to 400 years of chatel slavery through which blues music has evolved, out of human suffering, and effected the music of our times.[/b]

Yep, like I said, people sighing and groaning at the world of today, and much of that Blues was directed towards God. Even Reaggie and Dub have a lot of religious conotations, maybe this is why a lot of the Black Folks dont seem to have abandoned God as quick as Whitey.

Another thing to consider is how and why do the Satanic establishment seem to come down on music so hard and blame so many ills on it?, maybe its because it is such a powerfull and emotional rallying call, not just for bad, but for good as well.

Nash
02-10-2007, 08:46 PM
Greetings all. Been away for a while, buried under mountains of work at the job.

I agree that much of the music today (can&#39;t speak for the sixties and seventies because I wasn&#39;t there) influences the young as well as the old in subtle ways; we have to keep alert and on guard.

Not to hijack the thread, but I personally find the movie industry as a whole much more dangerous, however.

Nash

Kenneth
02-10-2007, 09:36 PM
Not to hijack the thread, but I personally find the movie industry as a whole much more dangerous, however.[/b]
I think we can throw a whole load of things into this thread movies, fashion, pop stars or whatever it is that young people are into.

Cloths and fashion are the way people today want to express themselves. Even though they all seem to wear the same thing to me. It appears that we are in an anything goes culture. What are people wearing ,cloths that are ripped and don&#39;t fit, jeans that are worn with the waist line around the bottom, come what&#39;s that about. Earrings sticking out of every where. Hair all over the place. Women showing their mid-drift. Yes, I maybe on my way to being a grumpy old man, perhaps they&#39;ll have me on the show, &#39;Grumpy old men&#39;.

James
02-10-2007, 10:31 PM
Not to hijack the thread, but I personally find the movie industry as a whole much more dangerous, however.[/b]
I think we can throw a whole load of things into this thread movies, fashion, pop stars or whatever it is that young people are into.

Cloths and fashion are the way people today want to express themselves. Even though they all seem to wear the same thing to me. It appears that we are in an anything goes culture. What are people wearing ,cloths that are ripped and don&#39;t fit, jeans that are worn with the waist line around the bottom, come what&#39;s that about. Earrings sticking out of every where. Hair all over the place. Women showing their mid-drift. Yes, I maybe on my way to being a grumpy old man, perhaps they&#39;ll have me on the show, &#39;Grumpy old men&#39;.
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Just to add to your list of so-called &#39;fashion&#39; trends is tattoos. I personally would not get one and see it in a bad light. Not only can it be a health risk-injecting dyes into your skin with needles-and it permanently &#39;marks&#39; you. Does it have a deeper connection to these last days? I may be wrong but, I think it does.
Kenneth, I too am getting more grumpy or have a more critical outlook as I see the increase of wickedness.

Take care brother,
James

olrono
02-11-2007, 02:47 AM
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Not to hijack the thread, but I personally find the movie industry as a whole much more dangerous, however.[/b]
I think we can throw a whole load of things into this thread movies, fashion, pop stars or whatever it is that young people are into.

Cloths and fashion are the way people today want to express themselves. Even though they all seem to wear the same thing to me. It appears that we are in an anything goes culture. What are people wearing ,cloths that are ripped and don&#39;t fit, jeans that are worn with the waist line around the bottom, come what&#39;s that about. Earrings sticking out of every where. Hair all over the place. Women showing their mid-drift. Yes, I maybe on my way to being a grumpy old man, perhaps they&#39;ll have me on the show, &#39;Grumpy old men&#39;.
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Just to add to your list of so-called &#39;fashion&#39; trends is tattoos. I personally would not get one and see it in a bad light. Not only can it be a health risk-injecting dyes into your skin with needles-and it permanently &#39;marks&#39; you. Does it have a deeper connection to these last days? I may be wrong but, I think it does.
Kenneth, I too am getting more grumpy or have a more critical outlook as I see the increase of wickedness.

Take care brother,
James
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Remember, the “body being the Temple of the Holy Spirit”, to defile it with “tattoos”, would be likened to desecrating Jehovah’s House as they did in Israel by drawing the pagan things on the Temple Walls. Even though we know this applies to the 144,000, as Jehovah’s people, it’s the same thing to Satan to defile the Other Sheep!

Nash
02-11-2007, 06:41 AM
I don&#39;t consider the opinions expressed here those of &#39;grumpy old men.&#39; On the contrary, I think that they way many people dress today is quite disgusting, especially the younger folks. My views are the same as yours - sadly enough, because my views are conservative by the world&#39;s standards, I have been described as being "strange," "different," and "crazy" because of my attitudes on these types of topics and issues.

Personally, I am happy to be different. It reaffirms my belief that I have not been swayed by the world and that there is a man in his late twenties who still has good values and morals in a morally decaying and worthless world.

And it also appears that I am in good company here too.

Nash

Kenneth
02-11-2007, 09:34 AM
I often sit and watch in astonishment at the way people dress today. They call it fashion. In reality it&#39;s all part of a fad. I appreciate we can&#39;t all look like Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn and boy were they snappy dressers. However, I once read in a woman&#39;s magazine that there&#39;s no such thing as an ugly woman just a lazy one and that goes for men also.

Take a look at photographs of yesteryears and see the differences in the way people were dressed. The hippie&#39;s waged war on society in the sixties, they were followed years later by the Punk era, a little normality came back in the 80s even though we had the new romantics and their outlandish styles and in the 90s we had grunge. The new millennium seems to have brought all the sub-cultures into the mainstream and it all looks like one big sea of untidiness.

I will say this though that our sisters are in my opinion as a group the best dressed women in the world. Most are not caught up in the grunge mode, they present themselves well, their hair is always neat and they&#39;re not prone to using foul language. In fact they appear to be astute in their dress and have taken to heart the words of Paul. "Likewise I desire the women to adorn themselves in well-arranged dress, with modesty and soundness of mind, not with styles of hair braiding and gold or pearls or very expensive garb, <sup>10</sup> but in the way that befits women professing to reverence God"

So a big thank you to our sisters for the praise they have brought upon our God Jehovah.

JWs have been criticized for years over the way they dress in that we all look the same. But there&#39;s one thing that the world can&#39;t hold against us is that we don&#39;t look like them. We may see a few plain Jane&#39;s or brothers who like myself who have no interest in fashion, but our dress is modest, neat and clean. You don&#39;t have to spend a fortune on clothes to look good. I have never bought a designer suit in my life. Even though the choice is yours if you can afford one.

dgibson
02-11-2007, 10:22 AM
Isn&#39;t it nice to know, that many of the things the great crowd has got involved in, caught up into doing , mislead by many or satans systems, many of the things we consider irreverseable now, will become reverseable!

We need to realize, that Jehovah is the one who is going to do the choosing of who is going to loose their life forever at arrmagedon without a ressurection, not us, or the WTBTS.

Their maybe a time when we will have to be accepting of these people, rather than rejecting them, or dismissing them as being stupid for allowing themselves to be pawns in satans world.

We have to remember that growing up, is vastly different for everyone, and that the world around us, enviromentally, physically, and emotionally, works against people behaving correctly.

Even the very history of the christian religions, including the WTBTS is one filled with hypocrictical errors.

So, no wonder the generations of people now, want to be "FREE" able to choose for themselves, what is right for themselves, rather than have a group of men, that are professing it knows the correct way to behave, while they force them into salvery. Whether it is just the weekly tything of 10%, or its passing out literature, the slavery to religions takes many forms. Its where people spent their time. Some think their music in the churches are the best. Or that a certain singer has the spirit. Idols Idols Idols The churches, their songs, and its singers, can and is idolized by many who attend them.

Until death, the last ememy, is done away with, people will consider that they only have 100 or less years to live, and only 20 or so productive years (between 25-45 yrs of age), to get ahead far enough in this world, to be set econoically for old age. Still theirs no guartee that they can do it. Some people that don&#39;t have many oportunities, will just want to be left to decide their own way, without the majorities of people telling them what they must do.

When the great crowd is gathered, I bet their will be specific, clear, instructions, or do&#39;s,and dont&#39;s, along with rapid healing energies being distributed to everyone. I jsut don&#39;tthink I could take the uphoria of a complete reversal of age from 50 to 20 in one day. It would be to overwhelming, it would probably feel like a head rush on some drugs, or over excercising.

Music is nice, I find it can be soothing to a low spirit of mind , and yet the high energy work outs can be made easy by a kicking bass, high energy song. I don&#39;t run to worship the artist who made them, but I respect that it is work to create a song that many people enjoy enough to pay 16-20 dollars now for the CD. They deserve their royalties, and descent pay, so does every other working individual. Thats why I hope the minimum wage gets passed, because many business men are making a killing on the backs of underpaid, overworked, workers, But thats another thread. Right?http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/imnotworthy.gif :imnotworthy:

Kenneth
02-11-2007, 07:31 PM
Yes it&#39;s live and why, to make it more outlandish and daring. No one will no what to expect from it but that&#39;s the reason it&#39;s live just to give it that edge. I can only imaging the profanities that will be use by these people. Going live though is nothing new as others actors have done it thinking they are so clever with their colourful metaphors. Once again the youth of today will fall victim to the machinations of this system.</span></span> </span>

Kenneth
02-28-2007, 06:48 PM
I don&#39;t know if any saw the TV program (British TV) last night about a family that went back and had the seventies experience. All the mod cons were taken out of the house and replaced with what people were using in the seventies. Three channel&#39;s on TV, no convenience food was used, and the children had household chores to complete that include chopping and preparing the food. TV was limited and when on it was a family activity. The children were given secular work to do either in the evenings or a Saturday job. Mum ruled the roost and discipline was administered. The programme was asking what we have done to our children. Most parents have the attitude that &#39;I want my children to have what I didn&#39;t have&#39;. The programme did highlight the damage we as parents have done to our children, as they think in terms of instant gratification. The experiment lasted two weeks. When the children were interviewed they admitted they started to communicate with their siblings and parents instead of going to their bedrooms and spending the night on the computer and using video games. They appeared to also to play a lot more outside in the garden. So what have we don to our children even in the truth.

Kenneth

Dorcas
02-28-2007, 11:51 PM
:ban_dance01: Dear Friends,
I&#39;ve enjoyed all your comments about the entertainment and fashion industries. I&#39;ve been around music most of my life and needed to give music some deep thought while I was raising my children. Nothing has a faster, more complete influence on our emotions than music. I think it has been with us since the beginning in one form or another. Some music is just plain BAD. The words and the music give it away, but, how about the romantic music, classical music, big band, etc. Can "good" music be bad for us? We need to be mature enough to figure out what effect the music is having on us. What might be OK for one person may cause negative thinking or sadness, or other ungodly thoughts to enter our minds. We might also consider who the musicians are and what life-style they represent, or where we have to go to see them perform; will there be drugs, alcohol, unruly people ?
As long as we are living in Satan&#39;s system, we have to be on our guard constantly. It&#39;s tough with kids &#39;cause they have ear pieces stuck in their ears most of the time. Satan is pumping his perverted thinking directly to their brains, and parents can&#39;t even hear what&#39;s being played.
May Jehovah give all of us the power of discretion so we can be protected.
Love to all...Dorcas :MSN Vlinder:

barry
03-01-2007, 04:41 PM
I just read in a newspaper about a study performed by Amy Strachman from the university of California in Los Angeles. According to her study listening a lot to popmusic has impact on the age when people start having sex.
A lot of the popmusic has sexual content and this has impact on us.
Young people listening to pop music with such content have more change to have sex sooner.
Listening to music without sexua content had no influence.
She decides that it is possible to shift the age of the first sexual behaviour to later age when music contains less sexual content and to make young people listen less to such music.

Jeshurun
03-01-2007, 05:19 PM
I remember the night they devoted a half hour talk at the service meeting when the Rolling Stones released "Let&#39;s Spend the Night Together". It&#39;s come a long way since then, hasn&#39;t it?

Berean
03-01-2007, 05:45 PM
I just read in a newspaper about a study performed by Amy Strachman from the university of California in Los Angeles. According to her study listening a lot to popmusic has impact on the age when people start having sex.
A lot of the popmusic has sexual content and this has impact on us.
Young people listening to pop music with such content have more change to have sex sooner.
Listening to music without sexua content had no influence.
She decides that it is possible to shift the age of the first sexual behaviour to later age when music contains less sexual content and to make young people listen less to such music.[/b]
I&#39;m always a bit skeptical when it comes to studies like these... is it really proven that the music caused these young people to have sex at an earlier age, or is the music just one facet of their immoral lifestyle? The thing with these studies is that people like to blame societal problems on a specific cultural phenomenon. Of course we know that that&#39;s not possible, since in the end it is Satan who has corrupted this world, and this is revealed in things like immoral music, values, etcetera, but I don&#39;t think that one necessarily causes the other. The music is perhaps just one part of a whole lifestyle. Did this researcher take into account the parents&#39; lifestyle, the environment the kids grew up in (neighbourhood, school, friends), and not just music, but all forms of entertainment (books, films, games, even clothing)? In my opinion, it&#39;s too easy to blame a problem on one specific aspect of culture, and it&#39;s running away from the real problem: that our society is rotten to the core, and that can&#39;t be fixed by just banning pop music.