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Nambo
02-18-2007, 03:58 PM
Sorry, couldnt resist the title, but I expect you are all aware of how much attention the media is giving us re Global Warming.
Some scientists claim particulates in the atmosphere would attually reduce temperatute as it blocks the sun rather than the increase they are trying to blame on us.
And indeed I remember as a child when they where trying to frighten us with the Russians, how we where allways warned about a post bomb "Nucluer winter" not Nucluer global warming effect.
These scientists claim that throughout history the sun has natural cycles of heat and cold so this report from NASA is interesting as it seems we are also geting Global Warming on Mars http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/odyssey/newsroom/.../20031208a.html (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/odyssey/newsroom/pressreleases/20031208a.html)

Of course we all know that the only real solution and hope fro our planet is a One World Government lead by the United Nations, right?

Just found even more http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/newsroom/20050920a.html where it says "And for three Mars summers in a row, deposits of frozen carbon dioxide near Mars' south pole have shrunk from the previous year's size, suggesting a climate change in progress."

My goodness, Pluto as well, http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/pluto.html
I really must get a smaller car, or maybe if I pay more tax, would that help?

Berean
02-18-2007, 04:34 PM
Whether man has influence on the process of global warming or not is not that important (although I do believe that we can definitely protect the environment by being less materialistic), because the dangers global warming pose are very real. Of course there have always been natural temperature fluctuations on Earth (just a few centuries ago there were vineyards in England, to give a famous example, and less than 100 years ago rivers would freeze over), but what we are seeing now is a very sudden increase in temperature. Even if we did not bring it about, I do believe it is necessary to be more careful with the environment, because I don't want to end up under water.

Jeshurun
02-18-2007, 05:09 PM
H.A.A.R.P.

It's not only greenhouse gas emissions: Washington's new world order weapons
have the ability to trigger climate change.

By Michel Chossudovsky - Professor of Economics, University of Ottawa and TFF associate, author of The Globalization of Poverty, second edition, Common Courage Press

The important debate on global warming under UN auspices provides but a partial picture of climate change; in addition to the devastating impacts of greenhouse gas emissions on the ozone layer, the World's climate can now be
modified as part of a new generation of sophisticated "non-lethal weapons." Both the Americans and the Russians have developed capabilities to manipulate the World's climate.

In the US, the technology is being perfected under the High-frequency Active Aural Research Program (HAARP) as part of the ("Star Wars") Strategic Defence Initiative (SDI). Recent scientific evidence suggests that HAARP is fully operational and has the ability of potentially triggering floods, droughts, hurricanes and earthquakes.

HAARP IS A MASS DESTRUCTIVE WEAPON - NOT PART OF ANY NEGOTIATIONS

From a military standpoint, HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction. Potentially, it constitutes an instrument of conquest capable of selectively destabilising agricultural and ecological systems of entire regions.

While there is no evidence that this deadly technology has been used, surely the United Nations should be addressing the issue of "environmental warfare" alongside the debate on the climatic impacts of greenhouse gases.

Despite a vast body of scientific knowledge, the issue of deliberate climatic manipulations for military use has never been explicitly part of the UN agenda on climate change. Neither the official delegations nor the environmental action groups participating in the Hague Conference on Climate Change (CO6) (November 2000) have raised the broad issue of "weather warfare" or "environmental modification techniques (ENMOD)" as relevant to an understanding of climate change.

The clash between official negotiators, environmentalists and American business lobbies has centered on Washington's outright refusal to abide by commitments on carbon dioxide reduction targets under the 1997 Kyoto protocol.(1) The impacts of military technologies on the World's climate are not an object of discussion or concern. Narrowly confined to greenhouse gases, the ongoing debate on climate change serves Washington's strategic and defense objectives.

"WEATHER WARFARE"

World renowned scientist Dr. Rosalie Bertell confirms that "US military scientists are working on weather systems as a potential weapon. The methods include
the enhancing of storms and the diverting of vapor rivers in the Earth's atmosphere to produce targeted droughts or floods."(2)

Already in the 1970s, former National Security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski had foreseen in his book "Between Two Ages" that:

"Technology will make available, to the leaders of major nations, techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of the security forces need be appraised... Techniques of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm. "

Marc Filterman, a former French military officer, outlines several types of "unconventional weapons" using radio frequencies. He refers to "weather war," indicating that the U.S. and the Soviet Union had already "mastered the know-how needed to unleash sudden climate changes (hurricanes, drought) in the early 1980s." (3) These technologies make it "possible to trigger atmospheric disturbances by using Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) radar [waves]." (4)

A simulation study of future defense "scenarios" commissioned for the US Air Force calls for: "US aerospace forces to 'own the weather' by capitalizing on emerging technologies and focusing development of those technologies to war-fighting applications." From enhancing friendly operations or disrupting those of the enemy via small-scale tailoring of natural weather patterns to complete dominance of global communications and counterspace control, weather-modification offers the war fighter a wide-range of possible options to defeat or coerce an adversary. In the United States, weather-modification will likely become a part of national security policy with both domestic and international applications. Our government will pursue such a policy, depending on its interests, at various levels. (5)

THE HIGH-FREQUENCY ACTIVE AURAL RESEARCH PROGRAM - HAARP

The High-Frequency Active Aural Research Program (HAARP) based in Gokoma Alaska-jointly managed by the US Air Force and the US Navy-is part of a new generation of sophisticated weaponry under the US Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI). Operated by the Air Force Research Laboratory's Space Vehicles Directorate, HAARP constitutes a system of powerful antennas capable of creating "controlled local modifications of the ionosphere".

Scientist Dr. Nicholas Begich-actively involved in the public campaign against HAARP-describes HAARP as: "A super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere (upper layer of the atmosphere) by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything-living and dead." (6)

Dr. Rosalie Bertell depicts HAARP as "a gigantic heater that can cause major disruption in the ionosphere, creating not just holes, but long incisions in the protective layer that keeps deadly radiation from bombarding the planet." (7)

MISLEADING PUBLIC OPINION

HAARP has been presented to public opinion as a program of scientific and academic research. US military documents seem to suggest, however, that HAARP's main objective is to "exploit the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes." (8) Without explicitly referring to the HAARP program, a US Air Force study points to the use of "induced ionospheric modifications" as a means of altering weather patterns as well as disrupting enemy communications and radar.(9)

According to Dr. Rosalie Bertell, HAARP is part of a integrated weapons' system, which has potentially devastating environmental consequences: "It is related to fifty years of intensive and increasingly destructive programs to understand and control the upper atmosphere. It would be rash not to associate HAARP with the space laboratory construction which is separately being planned by the United States. HAARP is an integral part of a long history of space research and development of a deliberate military nature.

The military implications of combining these projects is alarming. The ability of the HAARP / Spacelab/ rocket combination to deliver very large amount of energy, comparable to a nuclear bomb, anywhere on earth via laser and particle beams, are frightening. The project is likely to be "sold" to the public as a space shield against incoming weapons, or, for the more gullible, a device for repairing the ozone layer. (10)

In addition to weather manipulation, HAARP has a number of related uses: "HAARP could contribute to climate change by intensively bombarding the atmosphere with high-frequency rays. Returning low-frequency waves at high intensity could also affect people's brains, and effects on tectonic movements cannot be ruled out. (11).

More generally, HAARP has the ability of modifying the World's electro-magnetic field. It is part of an arsenal of "electronic weapons" which US military researchers consider a "gentler and kinder warfare". (12)

WEAPONS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER

HAARP is part of the weapons arsenal of the New World Order under the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI). From military command points in the US, entire national economies could potentially be destabilized through climatic manipulations. More importantly, the latter can be implemented without the knowledge of the enemy, at minimal cost and without engaging military personnel and equipment as in a conventional war. The use of HAARP-if it were to be applied-could have potentially devastating impacts on the World's climate.

Responding to US economic and strategic interests, it could be used to selectively modify climate in different parts of the World resulting in the destabilization of agricultural and ecological systems. It is also worth noting that the US Department of Defense has allocated substantial resources to the development of intelligence and monitoring systems on weather changes. NASA and the Department of Defense's National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA) are working on "imagery for studies of flooding, erosion, land-slide hazards, earthquakes, ecological zones, weather forecasts, and climate change" with data relayed from satellites. (13)

POLICY INERTIA OF THE UNITED NATIONS

According to the Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) signed at the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro:

"States have, in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations and the principles of international law, the responsibility to ensure that activities within their jurisdiction or control do not cause damage to the environment of other States or of areas beyond the limits of national jurisdiction." (14).

It is also worth recalling that an international Convention ratified by the UN General Assembly in 1997 bans "military or other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects." (15) Both the US and the Soviet Union were signatories to the Convention. The Convention defines "environmental modification techniques" as referring to any technique for changing-through the deliberate manipulation of natural processes-the dynamics, composition or structure of the earth, including its biota, lithosphere, hydrosphere and atmosphere or of outer space." (16) Why then did the UN-disregarding the 1977 ENMOD Convention as well as its own charter-decide to exclude from its agenda climatic changes resulting from military programs?

EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT ACKNOWLEDGES IMPACT OF HAARP

In February 1998, responding to a report of Mrs. Maj. Britt Theorin-Swedish MEP and longtime peace advocate--, the European Parliament's Committee on Foreign Affairs, Security and Defense Policy held public hearings in Brussels on the HAARP program.(17) The Committee's "Motion for Resolution" submitted to the European Parliament: "Considers HAARP by virtue of its far-reaching impact on the environment to be a global concern and calls for its legal, ecological and ethical implications to be examined by an international independent body; [the Committee] regrets the repeated refusal of the United States Administration to give evidence to the public hearing into the environmental and public risks [of&] the HAARP program." (18.)

The Committee's request to draw up a "Green Paper" on "the environmental impacts of military activities", however, was casually dismissed on the grounds that the European Commission lacks the required jurisdiction to delve into "the links between environment and defense". (19) Brussels was anxious to avoid a showdown with Washington.

FULLY OPERATIONAL

While there is no concrete evidence of HAARP having been used, scientific findings suggest that it is at present fully operational. What this means is that HAARP could potentially be applied by the US military to selectively modify the climate of an "unfriendly nation" or "rogue state" with a view to destabilizing its national economy. Agricultural systems in both developed and developing countries are already in crisis as a result of New World Order policies including market deregulation, commodity dumping, etc. Amply documented, IMF and World Bank "economic medicine" imposed on the Third World and the countries of the former Soviet block has largely contributed to the destabilization of domestic agriculture. In turn, the provisions of the World Trade Organization (WTO) have supported the interests of a handful of Western agri-biotech conglomerates in their quest to impose genetically modified (GMO) seeds on farmers throughout the World.

It is important to understand the linkage between the economic, strategic and military processes of the New World Order. In the above context, climatic manipulations under the HAARP program (whether accidental or deliberate) would inevitably exacerbate these changes by weakening national economies, destroying infrastructure and potentially triggering the bankruptcy of farmers over vast areas. Surely national governments and the United Nations should address
the possible consequences of HAARP and other "non-lethal weapons" on climate change.

Sketch
03-04-2007, 07:56 PM
The fans of channel4 documentaries should like this one on Global Warming... its on this week, Thursday the 8th...

http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites...ndle/index.html (http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/index.html)

Nambo
03-11-2007, 11:28 PM
The fans of channel4 documentaries should like this one on Global Warming... its on this week, Thursday the 8th...

http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites...ndle/index.html (http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/index.html)[/b]

Well I watched it on Google, its entitled "The Great Global Warming Swindle"

Its very well worth watching, the records show how changes in temperature through the ages exactly match recorded sunspot activity.
CO2 however, whilst allmost matching, trails by 800 years, so Global Warming causes the increase in CO2, not the other way around like we are told.

Another pack of lies those in charge tell us, emminating from, surprisingly enough, the United Nations!

I expect they will have the cure.

olrono
03-11-2007, 11:48 PM
You know what I always thought was funny, is that they pick Co2 as the “bad gas” of choice because these “tree huggers” should remember that “trees” need Co2 to survive and live. So to cut out Co2 you are in effect cutting off the life supply of the forests.

Shibboleth
03-12-2007, 02:30 PM
This is an article from Telegraph UK.<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/11/ngreen211.xml" target="_blank">
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Scientists receive death threats on Global Warming. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/11/ngreen211.xml)


A good quote from the article :


Last week, Professor Ball appeared in The Great Global Warming Swindle, a Channel 4 documentary in which several scientists claimed the theory of man-made global warming had become a "religion", forcing alternative explanations to be ignored.[/b]

Berean
03-12-2007, 04:17 PM
I appreciate that the relationship between man and climate change is not entirely clear, and I don&#39;t want us all to become environmentalist hippies, but we, as humans, do have a God-given responsibility to look after the planet God has lent to us. Especially we, as Christians, should take care not to unnecessarily pollute the Earth. Whether global warming is just a big lie or not (personally, I think it isn&#39;t, and there are scientists who would agree), we can all take care not to use too much energy (because the fossil fuels will run out one day), to use alternative means of transportation (the gases that cars emit do reduce the quality of the air we breathe), to use products that have been made with the environment in mind (e.g. biologically grown food, wood from plantations instead of from rainforests). I am saying this because I sometimes get the idea that because global warming might not be true, people start slacking when it comes to taking care of our planet. After all, it&#39;s a beautiful gift we got from our Creator.

Shibboleth
03-12-2007, 04:39 PM
We cannot know for a fact that global warming is man made because we can only go back 150 years ago and look at weather patterns.

When Krakatoa erupted in the mid 1800&#39;s it cooled the planet significantly. We would need another volcano the size of or bigger then Krakatoa&#39;s explosion to cool the earth significantly.

Sketch
03-17-2007, 11:30 AM
We would need another volcano the size of or bigger then Krakatoa&#39;s explosion to cool the earth significantly.[/b]

Ask, and Ye shall receive....

"Surprising Activity Found At Yellowstone Supervolcano"

http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=10908

"...from 2004 to 2006 the central caldera floor rose faster than ever, springing up nearly 7 inches during the three-year span. “The rate is unprecedented, at least in terms of what scientists have been able to observe in Yellowstone,” Smith said."

Jinnvisible
07-11-2007, 06:03 AM
Click New Artical (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6290228.stm)*