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Nambo
02-23-2007, 07:17 PM
German Bible Goes Politically Correct <div align="left">Deutsche Welle (http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2023998,00.html)
Tuesday, February 20, 2007

A new German translation of the Bible is aimed at ridding the Holy Scriptures of their misogynist and anti-Semitic traits as well as flashing out the relationship between the poor and the privileged.

A new German translation of the Holy Scriptures, entitled "The Bible in Fair Language," will be published this fall, in time for the international book fair in Frankfurt. A team of 42 women and 10 men worked on the translation for five years in an attempt to render the 2,400 pages of biblical texts in an easy-to-follow, contemporary language.

For those who do not read the Bible on a regular basis, the new German translation will be easier to understand. Those who already know text well, however, will find it novel and strange.

According to Protestant theologian Claudia Janssen, who worked on the new Bible, the old text has been rendered in a bias-free language.

"Justice is the main topic of the Bible," Janssen said. "And we&#39;re trying to do justice to the topic in our translation. Justice has different aspects: We wanted to do justice to the text and the language about the sexes. Social justice is also an important topic, as well as justice in the Judeo-Christian dialogue."

Staying true to the original

Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: The authors of the new German Bible do not want women to feel excluded

Previous Bible translators also wanted to stay true to the original. They always chose words and images, which were quite common and easy to understand in their times, but which no longer seem appropriate.

"Perhaps, you know the sentence from the Epistle to the Romans, in which Paul says: &#39;I admonish you, dear brothers.&#39; In the new translation, we have &#39;I encourage you, brothers and sisters,&#39;" Janssen said. "Women were members of the communities at the time. They were prophetesses, teachers, or disciples. They were also there in the everyday life as artisans or fishers. It is them that we are making visible in our translation."

Social justice

Luther&#39;s concepts of &#39;maidservants&#39; and &#39;serfs&#39; are, for instance, difficult to classify today, because that kind of exploitation and injustice no longer resonates with the contemporary reader. Instead, the new translation speaks of "slaves."

Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: The first translation of the Bible into German by Martin Luther reflected the social realities of his time

The history of Christianity has also been characterized by anti-Semitic sentiments, which kept being disseminated by various biblical translations.

"When, for example, in the Gospel according to John, one reads about the &#39;Jews,&#39; people say today that Jesus was confronting the Jews. Our translation makes it clear that Jesus was confronting the Jews, but also that he was a Jew himself. We tried to highlight that in various places."

"We try to make it clear that the New Testament is a collection of Jewish scriptures and that the Old Testament is the Book of Jews," Janssen said. "We want to approach that with respect and behave accordingly."

The name of the Lord

In previous German translations of the Bible, God was usually referred to as "Herr." The German word corresponds to the English "Lord" but is also used in everyday language in the sense of "mister." God&#39;s name, however, was never meant to be pronounced because it is a part of the divine mystery.

Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: For centuries, the image of God was exclusively masculine

"The most important Hebrew rendering of the name is &#39;adonai,&#39; which is a special form," said Frank Crüsemann, a professor of theology who himself worked on the new translation and is an expert in the Old Testament. "It means roughly something along the lines of "Herr," but not in the usual sense of Herr Crüsemann or Herr Meier. We name God today with a word which describes any man, which is really totally impossible, a scandal. German Jews used to say &#39;the Eternal One&#39; -- there are many such circumlocutions, some 10,000 attempts."

In many new translations, God is referred to in the feminine form to stress the fact that God exists beyond the polarity of the sexes.

"We are very much used to speaking about God in the masculine," Crüsemann said. "In the new translation, however, the feminine aspect prevails, which I find to be good and exciting."

A creative contemplation

The new translation is not meant to compete with other translations. It should, instead, highlight the creative co-existence of various interpretations of the original text.

"Every translator knows that their translation has a limited shelf-life, that the theological decisions in the background are temporary and that the language also changes over time," Janssen said. "Basically, as soon as the Bible gets published, we will have to start revising."

"I also hope that all the people who will work with this Bible will start to think creatively about the biblical language and develop their own translations," she added. "Luther said himself: &#39;I wish a translator was working in every village, every town.&#39;&#39;&#39;

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olrono
02-23-2007, 07:50 PM
I wonder how they handled 1 Corinthians 14: 34, ???

Zechariah
02-25-2007, 01:01 AM
:icon_twisted:

Some maynot be aware that "politically Correct", is communist terminology.

Agape,

Zechariah

Jeshurun
02-25-2007, 02:07 AM
What&#39;s next, a Bible for gays and pedophiles?

<sup>REV 22:18</sup> "I am bearing witness to everyone that hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; <sup>19</sup> and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things which are written about in this scroll

Jinnvisible
02-25-2007, 07:23 PM
:icon_twisted:

Some maynot be aware that "politically Correct", is communist terminology.

Agape,

Zechariah[/b]

Some may not be aware that `politically correct` is a contradiction of terms.

:poke.sml:

Zechariah
02-25-2007, 10:47 PM
Brothers,

The reason I mentioned "politically Correct", is that I had just finished reading an article on Brainwashing. It talked about the education program signed into law by President Clinton in 1994. In 1985, President Regan and Gorbachev signed an education exchange agreement. It put American technology into the hands of Communist strategists and , in return, gave us all the psycho-social strategies used in Communist nations to indoctrinate the Soviet children with Communist ideology and to monitor compliance for the rest of their lives. The parallels between the Soviet education system and our Goals 2000 have been well documented.

It is time to take a closer look at the well-tested tactics used by Communist regimes to alter minds and create "the new Soviet man, " for it is happening here. Once the international system is fully in place, neither we nor our children will remain free from socialist indoctrination and unthinkable controls. It is all part of Goals 2000, the school-to-work legislation, and the process of "lifelong learning" which is essential for building the planned "sustainable communities" around the world.

I can personally attest to this being taught in the colleges graduating in 2000. I just didn&#39;t realize at the time the subversive nature of the indoctrination.

One example: Now it is not "politically correct" to critisise homosexuality you would be labeled a homophobic which seems to be "politically correct" and homophobic&#39;s are not tolerated.

olrono
02-26-2007, 01:00 AM
Brothers,

The reason I mentioned "politically Correct", is that I had just finished reading an article on Brainwashing. It talked about the education program signed into law by President Clinton in 1994. In 1985, President Regan and Gorbachev signed an education exchange agreement. It put American technology into the hands of Communist strategists and , in return, gave us all the psycho-social strategies used in Communist nations to indoctrinate the Soviet children with Communist ideology and to monitor compliance for the rest of their lives. The parallels between the Soviet education system and our Goals 2000 have been well documented.

It is time to take a closer look at the well-tested tactics used by Communist regimes to alter minds and create "the new Soviet man, " for it is happening here. Once the international system is fully in place, neither we nor our children will remain free from socialist indoctrination and unthinkable controls. It is all part of Goals 2000, the school-to-work legislation, and the process of "lifelong learning" which is essential for building the planned "sustainable communities" around the world.

I can personally attest to this being taught in the colleges graduating in 2000. I just didn&#39;t realize at the time the subversive nature of the indoctrination.

One example: Now it is not "politically correct" to critisise homosexuality you would be labeled a homophobic which seems to be "politically correct" and homophobic&#39;s are not tolerated.[/b]
You are right on bro! We "home school" our grandson David, and we get e-mails from around the world were they are cracking down on this kind of thing just for that reason. Germany is a big one right now. By the way, anyone else home school out there?

dgibson
02-26-2007, 01:48 AM
Can you really blame the world for wanting people to become tolerant of each other? It costs governments of free world society&#39;s billions to police people, and keep people locked away in prisons. Many of these unlawful people, if they had been given the proper education by their schools, and parents, would possibly have walked away from doing bad, rather than acting like many of the past theologians additudes towards others,(NOTE THE CATHOICS VS THE PRODESTANTS IN EUROPE) taught from the old testament style of doing things. The old test. may give us a glimpse of Jehovah personality when dealing with people back then, but we are under a different law now, the law of Love. Tolerance untill the end of the system, when Jehovah has chosen all of his 144,000 spiritual sons, seems to me to be the best course of action. Killing a fag, or homo, for the sake of the children, or the neighborhood, is not the correct way of thinking, yet it is the way many do think, and bring their children up to think.

olrono
02-26-2007, 03:43 AM
Can you really blame the world for wanting people to become tolerant of each other? It costs governments of free world society&#39;s billions to police people, and keep people locked away in prisons. Many of these unlawful people, if they had been given the proper education by their schools, and parents, would possibly have walked away from doing bad, rather than acting like many of the past theologians additudes towards others,(NOTE THE CATHOICS VS THE PRODESTANTS IN EUROPE) taught from the old testament style of doing things. The old test. may give us a glimpse of Jehovah personality when dealing with people back then, but we are under a different law now, the law of Love. Tolerance untill the end of the system, when Jehovah has chosen all of his 144,000 spiritual sons, seems to me to be the best course of action. Killing a fag, or homo, for the sake of the children, or the neighborhood, is not the correct way of thinking, yet it is the way many do think, and bring their children up to think.[/b] Do you think if tolerance is their real motive that maybe they would be tolerant of Christians?

Jeshurun
02-26-2007, 04:27 AM
Speaking of those people being locked up in prisons, has anyone wondered why the liberal justice system keeps prisoners on death row for decades without executing them? Or why Governors consistently veto death penalty bills in the State Legislatures when they have been clearly supported by the majority vote? It happens in my state every year! Just a matter of being more compassionate, not wanting to be Barbarian, or not meting out cruel and unusual punishment?

I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if, during the Great Tribulation, during the time when the King of the South is "flooded over", all these extremely dangerous criminals are let loose, perhaps having been trained to be monsters many times worse than they were when they first went into prison.

Jinn, I believe "politically correct" could also be called an "oxymoron".

As far as this "tolerance" attitude prevailing today, all it shows me is that the world is increasingly taking on the personality of Satan, while becoming more godless every day. I believe homosexuality was widely accepted in Sodom and Gomorrah, and speaking out against them probably didn&#39;t go over too well there either.

olrono
02-26-2007, 05:32 AM
Speaking of those people being locked up in prisons, has anyone wondered why the liberal justice system keeps prisoners on death row for decades without executing them? Or why Governors consistently veto death penalty bills in the State Legislatures when they have been clearly supported by the majority vote? It happens in my state every year! Just a matter of being more compassionate, not wanting to be Barbarian, or not meting out cruel and unusual punishment?

I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if, during the Great Tribulation, during the time when the King of the South is "flooded over", all these extremely dangerous criminals are let loose, perhaps having been trained to be monsters many times worse than they were when they first went into prison.

Jinn, I believe "politically correct" could also be called an "oxymoron".

As far as this "tolerance" attitude prevailing today, all it shows me is that the world is increasingly taking on the personality of Satan, while becoming more godless every day. I believe homosexuality was widely accepted in Sodom and Gomorrah, and speaking out against them probably didn&#39;t go over too well there either.[/b]
Quote "As far as this "tolerance" attitude prevailing today, all it shows me is that the world is increasingly taking on the personality of Satan, while becoming more godless every day. I believe homosexuality was widely accepted in Sodom and Gomorrah, and speaking out against them probably didn&#39;t go over too well there either. "

Lou, I think your getting better every day!