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[Gabriel]

....There will be an election after all. It also appears that Bush and cheny will not invade iran or declare marshal law to prevent Obama from becoming president.

Could it be that the US is about to experiance the greatest prosparity that its ever had, under a president obama. I think thats exactly whats going to happen. Witnesses will began to lose faith seeing that the end hasnt came yet. Many will finnaly decide to go back to school and complete their education and who knows.....get better paying jobs? We are all like Noah inside the ark. We know Jehovah said that it will happen but we dont know when. I think that we as God's people are in the most spiritual danger than we have ever been in when we see that there will indeed be a next year...and a year after that and who knows.....maybe even witness Sarah Palin run for president? I truely believe that we are being tested.

[FutureMan]

....There will be an election after all. It also appears that Bush and cheny will not invade iran or declare marshal law to prevent Obama from becoming president.

Could it be that the US is about to experiance the greatest prosparity that its ever had, under a president obama. I think thats exactly whats going to happen. Witnesses will began to lose faith seeing that the end hasnt came yet. Many will finnaly decide to go back to school and complete their education and who knows.....get better paying jobs? We are all like Noah inside the ark. We know Jehovah said that it will happen but we dont know when. I think that we as God's people are in the most spiritual danger than we have ever been in when we see that there will indeed be a next year...and a year after that and who knows.....maybe even witness Sarah Palin run for president? I truely believe that we are being tested.[/b]

Hi there Gabriel, you may be correct but then again things can develop very quickly as has done in the past. One notable example of this of course is the 1st world war, which began as I understand simply with an assasination of a prominent figure. And of course the event involving the attack and devastation of the Trade Towers, and all the terrorists attacks that have since occured in all the four corners of the earth. We do not no what is just around the corner. If Satan the Devil has not being ousted out of Heaven yet, then we do not no when this will occur. Because if what some of us believe is true about Satan not being cast out of Heaven yet, then when he is finally cast down to earth, we will all be in for one hell of a rough ride. And perhaps witness many strange happenings.

Obama himself could be in for a rough ride. Remember what happened to JFK. It was rumoured that certain American high profiles were behind that. Men with a lot to lose.

He already has had an attempt on his life.

As well as that, it is going to be very hard to put Humpty Dumpty back together again,(The Global Economy). Not impossible but a very long road to achieve this, unless they completely recreate the economy into an entirely different structure or format.
This of course would require Global cooperation that has never being seen on the planet before since the Tower of Babel was being built.

My personal thoughts on this from FutureMan

[diamondiiz]

....There will be an election after all. It also appears that Bush and cheny will not invade iran or declare marshal law to prevent Obama from becoming president.

Could it be that the US is about to experiance the greatest prosparity that its ever had, under a president obama. I think thats exactly whats going to happen. Witnesses will began to lose faith seeing that the end hasnt came yet. Many will finnaly decide to go back to school and complete their education and who knows.....get better paying jobs? We are all like Noah inside the ark. We know Jehovah said that it will happen but we dont know when. I think that we as God's people are in the most spiritual danger than we have ever been in when we see that there will indeed be a next year...and a year after that and who knows.....maybe even witness Sarah Palin run for president? I truely believe that we are being tested.[/b]

I don't understand how people think Obama is some sort of savior. He's just a puppet like the rest of them. US debt is almost at the ceiling level - 75 billion more and they will need to raise it from 10.6 trillion to 11.6 trillion until they blow through that again.

I don't think what occurred in the last couple years was the death stroke of the seventh head of the wild beast and Obama is the one that will raise it up again. The test for WT will be when the beast is getting death the stroke and recovers as many will believe it's 1975 all over again and won't expect the better times after a collapse of the beast -IMO. Sit tight and hold on to your seat as the ride will get bumpier down the road, the next couple months may be an illusion where the markets have a nice bear rally before they plunge again. Obama has no answers. Martial Law is too conpiracy theory, it may or may not happen any time soon. Only one who keeps spewing a lot of nonsense about Martial Law is Alex Jones - I'm guessing that's where you're getting the martial law idea from. Fact is this crises is only in it's beginning stages and nothing happens over night. It may be stressful waiting but no one knows when the Lord arriives as he arrives as a thief in the night - keep awake.

[stayawake]

Hi all
The elections are just the beginning of our journey.
Keep in mind the Presidential inauguration doesn't take place until Jan 20,2009.
George Bush is Cammander-in-Chief until then.
Like Solomon would nicely put it
All things in it's oun time
love stayawake

[Molly]

Yes, Everyone,

Election day has arrived. I doubt it matters much which of the candidates wins. It will all be the same in the end. The agenda won't change just because some of the details do.

It is all very depressing to think of what is ahead. The economy by itself will make things very difficult for us in the future in the form of hyperinflation accompanied by high unemployment. That could lead to any number of scenarios, none good. Already the worldwide banking system's tight grip on money is reducing trade. That will have a ripple effect. The laws of the land have changed while Bush, Jr. has been in office and aren't likely to ever return to their correct constitutional basis. It's all downhill from here and like that letter from the Illuminati stated, there is no escape. I believe that not because of the letter, but because the Bible says that is the direction we are to go.

Both candidates scare me. It doesn't matter who wins, but the world situation is definitely going to deteriorate under the winner's watch.

Molly

[Gabriel]

Frankly speaking....I think that we still have a few years left....perhaps more than what we are comfortable with. If that is indeed the case, how many Witnesses will still cling to the 1914 doctrine? In fact Im amazed that no one other than a small group is actually starting to question it. What is it going to take and what slight of hand method will the society do next to continue to keep this thing up? Im just appauled that no one is asking more questions at this point. Every meeting as I look around in the hall everyone still bob and nod their heads in agreement with everything that comes from the platform. At any rate. My service and worship to my God is not dependant on "Time" in fact my love for him serpassses it. This system can keep on going till im 100yrs old Jehovahs laws and principles are the best way of living in this age or any age. I think that we need to prepair ourselves for a uncomfortable wait here guys.....perhaps taht is the very reason why Jesus asked "When the sun of man arrives, will he really find the faith ?" I guess by that time so many would have abandoned it.

[diamondiiz]

Frankly speaking....I think that we still have a few years left....perhaps more than what we are comfortable with. If that is indeed the case, how many Witnesses will still cling to the 1914 doctrine? In fact Im amazed that no one other than a small group is actually starting to question it. What is it going to take and what slight of hand method will the society do next to continue to keep this thing up? Im just appauled that no one is asking more questions at this point. Every meeting as I look around in the hall everyone still bob and nod their heads in agreement with everything that comes from the platform. At any rate. My service and worship to my God is not dependant on "Time" in fact my love for him serpassses it. This system can keep on going till im 100yrs old Jehovahs laws and principles are the best way of living in this age or any age. I think that we need to prepair ourselves for a uncomfortable wait here guys.....perhaps taht is the very reason why Jesus asked "When the sun of man arrives, will he really find the faith ?" I guess by that time so many would have abandoned it.[/b]

Amen to that. That's the other scenario I thought is also very much possible that 100 years comes and goes and people will start to ask questions. Maybe they'll have a new light that they were off by a 100 year similar to that of 6000 years (Russell's calculations) from Adam and the new presents will be 2014 not 1914. lol

[diamondiiz]

a bit off topic maybe but has to do with Obama or McCain presidency and the economy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSixu-wxvKI...ars.com/?p=5758 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSixu-wxvKI&eurl=http://www.infowars.com/?p=5758)

[Molly]

a bit off topic maybe but has to do with Obama or McCain presidency and the economy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSixu-wxvKI...ars.com/?p=5758 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSixu-wxvKI&eurl=http://www.infowars.com/?p=5758)[/b]

Hi Diamondiiz-

I think Peter Schiff has it straight. He is correct about how the economy has been mishandled and what should be done, but that is not the agenda of the Illuminati. The agenda is to bring down the US. And they have made a pretty efficient job of it so far.

And to Gabriel-

I agree that there are to be several more years yet until we get to the final 42 months. I imagine that it might take 3-4 years to get the world to the NWO. Once things start to collapse, things will move relatively quickly. The condition of the global economy has never been as poor as it is now.

Molly

[tortas]

obama is quoted as saying that america needs a strong CIVILIAN NATIONAL
SECURITY FORCE

wat does this mean? we ll see

add to the fact that obama is financed by GEORGE SOROS does not

bode well

[Utuna]

Frankly speaking....I think that we still have a few years left....perhaps more than what we are comfortable with. If that is indeed the case, how many Witnesses will still cling to the 1914 doctrine? In fact Im amazed that no one other than a small group is actually starting to question it. What is it going to take and what slight of hand method will the society do next to continue to keep this thing up? Im just appauled that no one is asking more questions at this point. Every meeting as I look around in the hall everyone still bob and nod their heads in agreement with everything that comes from the platform. At any rate. My service and worship to my God is not dependant on "Time" in fact my love for him serpassses it. This system can keep on going till im 100yrs old Jehovahs laws and principles are the best way of living in this age or any age. I think that we need to prepair ourselves for a uncomfortable wait here guys.....perhaps taht is the very reason why Jesus asked "When the sun of man arrives, will he really find the faith ?" I guess by that time so many would have abandoned it.[/b]

Dear Gabriel,

I totally agree with your opinion.

Nevertheless, I know a few friends of mine who have serious objections regarding what's going on in the organisation or regarding 1914, but.... they don't have the key that Robert gave us to replace all the pieces of the puzzle in good order.

Furthermore, they know it would be some kind of a "suicide" to talk about it openly. I've understood their inner doubts through insinuations or "innocent" remarks. This organisation is unfortunatly more united by fear than by love, to a certain extent. I told my friends to trust in Jehovah no matter what happens to the Watchtower in the future. They agreed with me... Whenever things have developed enough to get them realize that there is really something wrong somewhere, I'll give them the translations of Robert's essays and commentaries I'm doing especially for that purpose. You can't imagine the chance you have (me as well) to be able to read these "wonderful things" in your own language, because millions of people can't do it...

Too many JWs worship Jehovah not only thanks to the WT, but through it. They're too blinded with trust to discern the huge lacunae in WT's teaching or behaviour. I love them all and I'll be ready to help them when their idol falls down, thanks to God's help if He thinks that I deserve this responsability towards my acquaintances.

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