Partaking Of The Emblems

[Steadfast]

Partaking of the Emblems

The following scriptures present some interesting insight into their meaning when we look at the original language:

1 Corinthians 11:27 (NWT) – Consequently whoever eats the loaf or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will be guilty respecting the body and the blood of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 11:29 (NWT) – For he that eats and drinks eats and drinks judgment against himself if he does not discern the body.

Anaxios 371 (Adverb from G370; irreverently: - unworthily.)

From:

http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=371
in an unworthy manner
1 Corinthians 11:27 – Wherefore⁵⁶²⁰ whosoever^{3739, 302} shall eat²⁰⁶⁸ this⁵¹²⁶ bread,⁷⁴⁰ and²²²⁸ drink⁴⁰⁹⁵ this cup⁴²²¹ of the³⁵⁸⁸ Lord,²⁹⁶² unworthily,³⁷¹ (anaxios) shall be²⁰⁷¹ guilty¹⁷⁷⁷ of the³⁵⁸⁸ body⁴⁹⁸³ and²⁵³² blood¹²⁹ of the³⁵⁸⁸ Lord.²⁹⁶²

1 Corinthians 11:27 (KJ) - Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily (anaxios), shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 11:29 – For¹⁰⁶³ he that eateth²⁰⁶⁸ and²⁵³² drinketh⁴⁰⁹⁵ unworthily,³⁷¹ (anaxios) eateth²⁰⁶⁸ and²⁵³² drinketh⁴⁰⁹⁵ damnation²⁹¹⁷ to himself,¹⁴³⁸ not³³⁶¹ discerning¹²⁵² the³⁵⁸⁸ Lord's²⁹⁶² body.⁴⁹⁸³

1 Corinthians 11:29 (KJ) - For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily (anaxios), eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

My comment: The above-cited scriptures are the only ones in the Bible to use anaxios #371.

My comment: Anaxios is taken from the root word # 370 which gives a little more insight into the direction of the meaning of #371:

Anaxios 370 (From G1 (as a negative particle) and G514; unfit: - unworthy)

From:

http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=370
unworthy, unfit for a thing
My comment: Here is the only other scripture using word anaxios #370:

1 Corinthians 6:2 ( KJ) – Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

My comment: Another interesting word is krima used in 1 Corinthians 11:29:

Krima 2917

From:

http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=2917
a decree, judgments
judgment condemnation of wrong, the decision (whether severe or mild) which one passes on the faults of others
in a forensic sense the sentence of a judge
the punishment with which one is sentenced
condemnatory sentence, penal judgment, sentence
a matter to be judicially decided, a lawsuit, a case in court
1 Corinthians 11:29 For¹⁰⁶³ he that eateth²⁰⁶⁸ and²⁵³² drinketh⁴⁰⁹⁵ unworthily,³⁷¹ eateth²⁰⁶⁸ and²⁵³² drinketh⁴⁰⁹⁵ damnation²⁹¹⁷ (krima) to himself,¹⁴³⁸ not³³⁶¹ discerning¹²⁵² the³⁵⁸⁸ Lord's²⁹⁶² body.⁴⁹⁸³

1 Corinthians 11:29 (KJ) - For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation (krima) to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

My comment: Some additional scriptures using the word krima:

Matthew 7:2 - For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Matthew 23:14 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Mark 12:40 - Which devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation.

Luke 20:47 - Which devour widows' houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.

Luke 23:40 - But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?

Luke 24:20 - And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.

John 9:39 - And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

Acts 24:25 - And as he reasoned of righteousness, temperance, and judgment to come, Felix trembled, and answered, Go thy way for this time; whenI have a convenient season, will call for thee.

Romans 2:2 - But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.

Romans 2:3 - And thinkest thou this,O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

Romans 3:8 - And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

Romans 5:16 - And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

Romans 13:2 - Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

1 Corinthians 11:34 - And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.

Galatians 5:10 - I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be.

1 Timothy 3:16 - Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

1 Timothy 5:12 - Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.

Hebrews 6:2 - Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

James 3:1 - My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.

1 Peter 4:17 - For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

2 Peter 2:3 - And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Jude 1:4 - For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Revelation 17:1 - And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters.

Revelation 18:20 - Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.

Revelation 20:3 – And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

My comment: And still another word used in verse 29 is diakrino:

Diakrino 1252

From:

http://www.studylight.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=1252

to separate, make a distinction, discriminate, to prefer
to learn by discrimination, to try, decide to determine, give judgment, decide a dispute
to withdraw from one, desert
to separate one's self in a hostile spirit, to oppose, strive with dispute, contend
to be at variance with one's self, hesitate, doubt
1 Corinthians 11:29 – For¹⁰⁶³ he that eateth²⁰⁶⁸ and²⁵³² drinketh⁴⁰⁹⁵ unworthily,³⁷¹ eateth²⁰⁶⁸ and²⁵³² drinketh⁴⁰⁹⁵ damnation²⁹¹⁷ to himself,¹⁴³⁸ not³³⁶¹ discerning¹²⁵² the³⁵⁸⁸ Lord's²⁹⁶² body.⁴⁹⁸³

1 Corinthians 11:29 – For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eatheth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

Diakrino 1252

From E-Sword:

From G1223 and G2919; to separate thoroughly, that is, (literally and reflexively) to withdraw from, or (by implication) oppose; figuratively to discriminate (by implication decide), or (reflexively) hesitate: - contend, make (to) differ (-ence), discern, doubt, judge, be partial, stagger, waver.

Some other scriptures using the word diakrino:

Matthew 16:3 - And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

Matthew 21:21 - Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.

Mark 11:23 - For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

Acts 10:20 - Arise therefore, and get thee down, and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them.

Acts 11:2 - And when Peter was come up to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision contended with him.

Acts 11:12 - And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man's house:

Acts 15:9 - And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

Romans 4:20 - He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God.

Romans 14:23 - And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

1 Corinthians 4:7 - For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?

1 Corinthians 6:5 - I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

1 Corinthians 11:31 - For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

1 Corinthians 14:29 - Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.

James 1:6 - But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

James 24 - Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?

Jude 1:9 - Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Jude 1:22 - And of some have compassion, making a difference.

My comment: After studying the scriptures one must ask: Should I partake or should I not partake? It is up to each one of us to decide as we discern the body of Christ. No one can question another's choice to partake of the emblems because it is between them and Jehovah alone.

Love,

Steadfast

[dgibson]

"1 Corinthians 11:34 - And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."


So, what is being said, here? Is it food hunger, or a hunger to know what is going on? and what is coming? or a hunger to get involved with the Judging of spiritual matters now, like the WTBTS FDS is doing that affects so many lives, in this time period? Is it telling others that have been called, to stay at home ,and wait for matters to be set in order by Jesus himself, instead of being out of step with the mothership, helping the mis-leading of others, mainly those chosen?

[Nash]

Hi Steadfast! :)

Good thread. The scriptures are so clear - if one partakes of the emblems unworthily, that would be a very serious matter. It's not simply a question of 'eating bread' and 'drinking wine.' Partaking demonstrates being in a special relationship with Jehovah, and, consequently, I would think that if one partakes but is not worthy, thereby being presumptuous, that would incur Jehovah's disfavour.

Frankly, I am looking forward to staying on the earth!

Nash

[Kenneth]

"Have no fear, little flock, because YOUR Father has approved of giving YOU the kingdom[/b]


"And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.[/b]


"I shall by no means drink anymore of the product of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God." (Mark 14:25)[/b]

Christ made a covenant for a Kingdom with the twelve and the twelve only; theses were the foundation of the 144,000. When Christ drinks of the cup again it would be in the Kingdom of God. The Great crowd at this time are on earth and benefit form what the Kingdom accomplishes, thus taking the emblems is not necessary for that group. I am earth bound and never had any desire for the upward calling or do I feel I'm missing out. Many get carried away with too many emotions and if one believe something long enough you can convince your self that it's true.

I would never mock nor belittle ones who partake, who made us judges? But those who do partake need to think and pray very hard over the matter otherwise we could find ourselves incurring Jehovah's displeasure.

kenneth
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[Nambo]

"1 Corinthians 11:34 - And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."


So, what is being said, here? Is it food hunger, or a hunger to know what is going on? and what is coming? or a hunger to get involved with the Judging of spiritual matters now, like the WTBTS FDS is doing that affects so many lives, in this time period? Is it telling others that have been called, to stay at home ,and wait for matters to be set in order by Jesus himself, instead of being out of step with the mothership, helping the mis-leading of others, mainly those chosen?[/b]

I belive the Society say all the Christians back then where of the annointed?, in which case might this scripture not mean, eat at home least you of the Great Crowd not partake due to food hunger?
Might it mean, satisfy your food hunger at home so that when you partake of the emblems, you are thinking of them as being important Spiritual representations of Christ rather than objects of food to satisfy the flesh which would bring you condemnation.

Interesting to read all the instuctions regarding the eating of the sacrificail food by the tribe of Levi alone in Leviticus, Jehovah is very particular about this to the extent of punishment by death, maybe a sort of parralell to the partaking of the Emblems by the Heavenly Priestly Class.

I had inquired before of the feeling of being externally covered in Holy Spirit after my Baptism, yet never felt or wanted the Heavenly hope, I can see what you are saying Kenneth about how ones could get carried away, I would hope that in view of the seriousness, Jehovah would make it unquestionably known to the individuals who really are in that Covernant.

[eyes&ears]

Steadfast,

Appreciate your work on this.

I also believe this is something not to take for granted as both you and Nash express, Nash said below:

"Partaking demonstrates being in a special relationship with Jehovah, and, consequently, I would think that if one partakes but is not worthy, thereby being presumptuous, that would incur Jehovah&#39;s disfavour."

Me personally, I sincerely feel and believe deep in my heart that if Jehovah&#39;s spirit has not really indicated to us that we are in this special relationship with him and we partake, I would imagaine we would eventually start to have all sorts of problems especially with our mental state as well as our relationship with Jehovah.

Romans 1:28 And just as they did not approve of holding God in accurate knowledge, God gave them up to a DISAPPROVED MENTAL STATE to do the things not fitting.

So sooner or later, I really do feel that certain types of uncharacteristic behaviors will start to manifest itself from ones who are not necessarily approved by Jehovah to partake.

All I know is that like Nash and many others, Jehovah has not given me any indication that I am to go to heaven.

I also prefer to stay right down here on this earth. If that is to change I am sure Jehovah will certainly let me know first, if our views are to change with this I am very confident that Jehovah will make it known to us also.

Thanks steadfast again.

Eyes & Ears

[Nash]

Hi Kenneth! :)

I too would never mock someone who professes to be anointed. That would be between that individual and Jehovah.

Nash