Jerome Translation

[shikinah]

I was just wondering about the scriptures and their translations, only to find that theres not one of the original books/manuscripts of the bible anywhere. Obviously there must have been at one time, so where did they vanish to?
Books which were so priceless inspired by god himself, must have been passed down from family to family or kept safe. The oldest available from what i see is the translation by Jerome, who was a roman catholic. Which translation does the New World Translation originate from?


Sisterly Love
Elizabeth

[Rogue]

I was just wondering about the scriptures and their translations, only to find that theres not one of the original books/manuscripts of the bible anywhere. Obviously there must have been at one time, so where did they vanish to?
Books which were so priceless inspired by god himself, must have been passed down from family to family or kept safe. The oldest available from what i see is the translation by Jerome, who was a roman catholic. Which translation does the New World Translation originate from?


Sisterly Love
Elizabeth [/b]

The WT of '83, 15/2, questions from readers says the NWT is based on Greek standard text bij Bible scolars B. F. Westcott and F. J. A. Hort, completed in 1881 ... that's all I could find about it this instant

[shikinah]

Thank you Rogue,
Do you know what bij stands for? i think its been revised since then, but im not sure B)

Elizabeth

[Rogue]

Thank you Rogue,
Do you know what bij stands for? i think its been revised since then, but im not sure B)

Elizabeth[/b]


hahaha I copied the peace from the Dutch CD-rom and translated it... I forgot to translate the Dutch word 'bij'... it simply means 'by'.... :P

[shikinah]

Hmmm very interesting,

Brooke Foss Westcott was born in Birmingham and attended Trinity College in Cambridge, while there he was asked to join the Cambridge Apostles, also known as the Cambridge Conversazione Society, is an intellectual SECRET SOCIETY.
Undergraduates being considered for membership are called "embryos" and are invited to "embryo parties", where members judge whether the student should be invited to join. The "embryos" attend these parties without knowing they are being considered for membership. Becoming an Apostle involves taking an oath of secrecy and listening to the reading of a curse, originally written by Apostle Fenton John Anthony Hort, the theologian, in or around 1851. After obtaining his degree, Westcott remained in residence at Trinity. In 1849 he obtained his fellowship; and in the same year he was ordained deacon and priest by his old headmaster, Prince Lee, later Bishop of Manchester. In 1883 Westcott was elected to a professorial fellowship at King's. Shortly afterwards, having previously resigned his canonry at Peterborough, he was appointed by the crown to a canonry at Westminster, and accepted the position of examining chaplain to Archbishop Benson.

He studied assiduously The Sacred Books of the East, and earnestly contended that no systematic view of Christianity could afford to ignore the philosophy of other religions. The outside world was wont to regard him as a mystic; and the mystical, or sacramental, view of life enters, it is true, very largely into his teaching. He had in this respect many points of similarity with the Cambridge Platonists of the 17th century, and with F.D. Maurice, for whom he had profound regard. His theological work was always distinguished by the place which he assigned to Divine Revelation in Holy Scripture and in the teaching of history. His own studies have largely contributed in England to their current understanding of the doctrines of the Resurrection and the Incarnation.

The Cambridge spy ring
The Apostles came to public attention again following the exposure of the Cambridge spy ring in 1951. Three Cambridge graduates with access to the top levels of government in Britain, one of them a former Apostle, were eventually found to have passed information to the KGB. The three known agents were Apostle Guy Burgess, an MI6 officer and secretary to the deputy foreign minister; Donald MacLean, foreign office secretary; and Kim Philby, MI6 officer and journalist

In 1963, American writer Michael Straight, also an Apostle, and later publisher of his family's The New Republic magazine, admitted to a covert relationship with the Soviets, and he named Anthony Blunt, MI5 officer, director of the Courtauld Institute, and art adviser to the Queen as his recruiter and a Soviet spy. Confronted with Straight's confession, Blunt acknowledged his own treason and revealed that he had also drawn into espionage his fellow Apostle Leonard "Leo" Long. Straight also told investigators that the Apostle John Peter Astbury had been recruited for Soviet intelligence by either Blunt or Burgess. Leo Long confessed to delivering classified information to the Soviets from 1940 until 1952.

Writers have accused several other Apostles of being witting Soviet agents. Roland Perry in his book, The Fifth Man (London: Pan Books, 1994) makes a circumstantial case against Victor Rothschild, 3rd Baron Rothschild, who was a friend to both Burgess and Blunt. The espionage historian John Costello in The Mask of Treachery (London: William Collins & Sons, 1988) points a finger at the mathematician Alister Watson. Kimberley Cornish, in his controversial The Jew of Linz (London: Century, 1998), makes the mindboggling claim that Ludwig Wittgenstein was the "éminence grise" of the Cambridge spies.

Guy Burgess and Anthony Blunt, both homosexual, had been members of the Apostles at a time when homosexuality seemed to be an attribute of many of the undergraduates chosen for membership, and stories persisted that the membership was mainly homosexual and Marxist. Documents from the Soviet archives included in The Crown Jewels (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1999), by Nigel West and Oleg Tsarev, indicate that it was Burgess who seduced and led Blunt into the Soviet underground. As the Queen's art advisor, Blunt was knighted in 1956, but was stripped of his knighthood in 1979 after Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher publicly named him as a spy — his confession having been kept secret before then.


Westcott was yet another mason mixing with those who have no interest in real truths, but was sworn to secrecy witin a secret society. Yet it is his translation of the Bible which the Watchtower had chosen to use over the years.


Is anything truely SACRED?



Sisterly Love
Elizabeth

[shikinah]

HERES SOME MORE INFORMATION ON WESTCOTT & HIS BIBLE TRANSLATION.

Dr. G. Vance Smith, who denied the Divinity of Christ, had nevertheless participated in a communion service at Westminster Abbey upon the invitation of Bishop Westcott just prior to the first committee meeting. Dean John Burgon reported that committee members were bound to a pledge of silence having received each a copy of the New Greek Text created by Westcott and Hort, which altered the Textus Receptus in 5,337 places: "…a 'confidential' copy of their work having been already entrusted to every member of the New Testament Company of Revisionists to guide them in their labours, -- under pledge that they should neither show nor communicate its contents to any one else."

Occult..

Of the nineteenth century cast of noteworthy characters, it may be postulated that two figures stand preeminently at the fountainhead of the converging streams of twentieth century Spiritualism and globalism. During the thirty year period in which B.F. Westcott and F.J.A. Hort were employed in the creation of a New Testament Greek Text and revision of the English Bible, they also guided organizations dealing in matters occult and conspiratorial. Their progeny includes not only the plethora of contemporary versions based upon Egyptian recensions, but also the Society for Psychical Research, which first propounded the principles of both modern Spiritualism and Psychology, and the S.P.R. derivative, the socialist Fabian Society, which founded the globalist London School of Economics and Political Science. The contribution of Westcott and Hort to modern spiritualism and global integration is indeed vast and is increasing exponentially as the modern prophets of occult Traditions receive international power to give full expression to MYSTERY BABYLON, which rides the Beast of the apocalyptic vision.

" AND IF ANY ONE TAKES ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE WORD OF THE SCROLL OF THIS PROPHESY GOD WILL TAKE HIS PORTION AWAY FROM THE TREES OF LIFE AND OUT OF THE HOLY CITY THINGS WHICH ARE WRITTEN ABOUT IN THIS SCROLL ." REV 22:19.



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Elizabeth