Child Sex Abuse...two Witnesses...hhmmmm

[The Bible Student]

This is my last post....maybe for a while

This is one of my main bones of contention. You have all discussed this before, and it mail seem boring for you to return to, but when Gods kingdom comes these men are not going into that kingdom.

Leviticus says one shouldnot uncover the nakedness of a daughter or a son of anyone..it is shameful and disgusting in jehovahs eyes, yet so many remain in the congregations while the victims are kicked out...but as Isaiah says, these men have thrown justice to the ground and even turn away from hearing the lowly one even when he speaks the truth (Isaiah 32:7 59:13-15) And even in light of all the evidence, the WT dont want to address the issues,and some of these monsters are still active maybe even on this site. And Barbara Anderson has made these details public, some 5000 pages of court details.

I myself received a barrage of abuse form so called brothers involved in this, and some of you have seen these emails already detailing how these men had sex with my wife and daughters, mails which are now being dealt with by Authorities in Europe...some of you have seen these emails already..........Mails even detailing how my mother was murdered too because she didnt repent,she wasnt even a JW, and these were sent as part of the compilers revenge. This is what some people in the congregations do, yet say they are witnesses, when they are not, and they get away, as we say, "scot free".

An elder in the far north of scotland, Wick in Caithness, maintains these acts against children will continue until the Police step in and deal with it, then at that point the elders will deal with the sin part of it....so, who is speaking here, JEHOVAH OR SATAN? and if kids are being abused,why do the police need to deal with it first? And why do elders need to wait for the Police?

Recently, a brother with 18 previous convictions was cleared after having sex with a bay of 1 year old. He was a trustee in Bethel in London. The Police and family were devastated, but Bethel rejoiced over it....

What kind of person(s) has sex with kids, or even writes about it? and at same time live under the protective banner of religion to protect them? and still have free reign to mingle freely where young ones are? They really are preying on those praying in the congregation.

This has what has lead to my present situation. I am glad I spoke out, and would do it again, and sometimes I wish I never became involved in this religion, but I know and beleive it will end.

Anyone interested should email me to see these emails....judge for yourself....maybe you can say if it is right or wrong for an eldertowrite about young girls performing oral sex on him...and in Gods name

[The Bible Student]

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[TWINKLE]

Hi, my heart and prayers go out to you during this awful time. Are these people who are threatening you and committed these atrocious crimes so called witnesses? Why are you looking at going to prison?

'Because you kept my command to endure, i will also keep you safe'
Rev 3:10 good news translation

Sisterly love

[panda]

biblestudent........I do not think it very caring to post such sleeze on a public forum. I'm sorry for your situation, but I think this is becoming obsessive.

[shikinah]

This is all very worrying indeed, you will end up killing yourself with stress if you dwell on this too much. You dont have any choice but to leave EVERYTHING in Jehovahs hands, as it seems this has got completely out of control, the devil is revelling in all of this brother, i honestly feel for you out there in China all alone and cant even mention the word Jehovah. Where and how do you email? be careful they dont investigate your pc.

Sisterly Love
Elizabeth

[James]

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[The Bible Student]

Dear James,Watchman, Gilligan in London/Michigan

The replies made here have been wiped.

The matter is now being dealt with by Kai Aust Bundespolizei Hessen, and Staatsanwaltachaft Hessen

Jahdisciple called me yesterday, he will confirm my presence here in China.

I am glad I am going to jail, so it will be an end for me, I really am glad of it,its a relief to know i will soon be out of it.

Better to be mad, bad etc and whatever members of the WT and watchman and Gilligan brand people, than be an active paedophile, preying on young ones praying in the congregation, and maybe people too on this site.

There are people on this site too, who are not who they portend to be...even posting pro/negative watchtower stuff like 1914 and 1975.....Its not funny, in fact its offensive to those that are really genuine.

But, above all, I am glad I found out what i did here, despite the insults by watchman,and Gilligan, but it cant help me here, I cant be helped now. Its over for me.

Today, I read Daniel 12. In the time of the end, the knowledge would overflow,and those knowing it would shine like the stars,they would impart this knowledge to many, and those being saved by it would number like the stars, and they would escape the coming tribulation as Michael the foremost stands up for his people(Daniel 12:4,1 Mark 13:19-20)

Goodbye to all those thatve been really good friends to me and thatve offered needed help at this really difficult time, even though you are far away, you are very near.

Bye
Take care
Love all of you,
Special love to Shikinah, Jahd,
The Bible Student

[Steadfast]

Dear Bible Student,

I will pray that Jehovah give you the strength to endure and that he grant you a calm heart and mild spirit in the midst of this storm.

Psa 69:1 A Psalm of David. Save me, O God! for the waters have come in on my soul.

Psa 69:2 I sink in deep mire, where there is no standing; I have come into deep waters, where the floods overflow me.

Psa 69:3 I am weary from my crying; my throat is dried; my eyes fail while I wait for my God.

Psa 69:4 They who hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of my head; they who would destroy me are mighty, my lying enemies. Then I restored what I did not take away.

Psa 69:5 O God, You know my foolishness, and my guiltiness is not hidden from You.

Psa 69:6 Do not let those who wait on You, O Jehovah, the God of Hosts, be ashamed for my sake; let not the ones who seek You be ashamed for my sake, O God of Israel,

Psa 69:7 because I have borne reproach for Your sake, shame has covered my face.

Psa 69:8 I have become a stranger to My brothers, and a foreigner to My mother's children.

Psa 69:9 For the zeal of Your house has eaten Me up; and the reproaches of those who reproached You have fallen on Me.

Psa 69:10 When I humbled my soul with fasting, it turned to my reproach.

Psa 69:11 I also made sackcloth my clothing, and I became a proverb to them.

Psa 69:12 They who sit in the gate speak against me; and I was the song of the drunkards.

Psa 69:13 But as for me, my prayer is to You, O Jehovah, in a pleasing time; O God, in the multitude of Your mercy hear me, in the truth of Your salvation.

Psa 69:14 Deliver me out of the mire, and let me not sink; let me be delivered from those who hate me, and out of the deep waters.

Psa 69:15 Do not let the flood of waters overflow me, nor let the deep swallow me up, and let not the pit shut its mouth on me.

Psa 69:16 Hear me, O Jehovah, for Your loving-kindness is good; turn to me according to the multitude of Your tender mercies.

Psa 69:17 And hide not Your face from Your servant; for I am in trouble; hear me quickly.

Psa 69:18 Draw near my soul, and redeem it; deliver me because of my enemies.

Psa 69:19 You have known my reproach, and my shame, and my dishonor; my enemies are all before You.

Psa 69:20 Reproach has broken my heart, and I am full of heaviness; and I looked for some to mourn with me, but there was none; and for comforters, but I found none.

Love, :Love:

Steadfast

[shikinah]

Beautiful scriptures steadfast,
lets hope Biblestudent is reading them, just one thing bible student, just because people dont understand your predicament, doesnt mean they love you less, people fear what they dont know. I have experienced this myself, there was a time i suffered all alone just like you, even my family and witnesses deserted me. But this is the time Jehovah will be the realest he has ever been, this will make you stronger if you allow it to. Keep strong and never give up the fight.

Sisterly Love
Elizabeth

[Jahsdisciple]

This is all very worrying indeed, you will end up killing yourself with stress if you dwell on this too much. You dont have any choice but to leave EVERYTHING in Jehovahs hands, as it seems this has got completely out of control, the devil is revelling in all of this brother, i honestly feel for you out there in China all alone and cant even mention the word Jehovah. Where and how do you email? be careful they dont investigate your pc.

Sisterly Love
Elizabeth[/b]

Sister Elizabeth,
you are right,dwelling on something like this is very harmful to your health. but it must be hard for him since these things have happened to him. It would be difficult to take knowing your own daughter was molested then nothing is done about it but cover it up. Im not sure how i would cope if this happened to my family. I would want justice and i would go to the police. He sounded very tired on the phone. I hope he is OK! JD

[The Bible Student]

<div class='quotemain'>This is all very worrying indeed, you will end up killing yourself with stress if you dwell on this too much. You dont have any choice but to leave EVERYTHING in Jehovahs hands, as it seems this has got completely out of control, the devil is revelling in all of this brother, i honestly feel for you out there in China all alone and cant even mention the word Jehovah. Where and how do you email? be careful they dont investigate your pc.

Sisterly Love
Elizabeth[/b]

Sister Elizabeth,
you are right,dwelling on something like this is very harmful to your health. but it must be hard for him since these things have happened to him. It would be difficult to take knowing your own daughter was molested then nothing is done about it but cover it up. Im not sure how i would cope if this happened to my family. I would want justice and i would go to the police. He sounded very tired on the phone. I hope he is OK! JD
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The Federal Police in Germany are dealing with it.

The brother who did it lives in Edinburgh now,but comes from Germany.

I received 300 emails all of the same kind, same tone, amd destailing sex acts with my wife and kids...he even described the inside and outside of the house in his emails, and described how it was to be outside the house masturbating while my wife and the kids undressed.....so, tell me..They even called my mum day in and day out until the day she died, the local policeman in the village told me she died really quickly...in a matter of hours...then i received a mail saying these brothers did it...they openly admitted it. They said it was for religious revenge.

I have sent photos already to watchman and shikinah of what is going on in that congregation....birhtday parties, christmas celebration, halloween....check it out: The camera never lies. Shikniah has seen this website too, so if the public see this what do you think their estimation of the brothers will be?

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=560198942

Oral and anal sex were the main theme of their emails.....Robert King hasnt a clue, thinks he knows it all, but other say differant, but pride comes before a crash, doesnt matter what good he has done.

My heart is broken, as I loved Jehovah, and feel betrayed.

They, as Robert says over and over, they are indeed Gods people, but they are sorely mislead, and when i read that public talk a brother posted today, by brother herd, it makes me even more sick.

I loved Robert, but he has betrayed that now...I am glad my end has come, really glad.

Its the best thing for me...peace at last, and dont have to listen to apostate teachings no more, nor have to listen to the fact I have to get two witnesses to any of the crimes committed by these brothers....but, what do you think of elders getting involved in extra marital sex with married men, oral and anal sex, and admitting to it?...Robert, and those that dont know, are ignorant...you dont even know the half of it.

The Bundespolizei and Kriminalamt have huge departments that deal with religiously motivated sexualcrime....but according to EC in Wick Congregation, this is not a sin and crime until Police prove it...but Jehovahs day is coming, and he doesnt need Police to do this,when that day comes they are gone, but what they do shows disrespect for jehovah and his laws, even mans laws which we must obey according to Romans 13, and if we dont obey these,then we stand against Jehovah....but he waits his time....So, if having sex with men is not a sin....why did Jehovah desrtoy Sodom ...?

I love you Jahd, shikinah...take care...this is my last log...just note I really do love jehovah, but....its impossible for me now, I dont want to go on...I eally loved him and beleived in him...

[shikinah]

JD,
no one could possibly understand the ordeal he must be going through, one thing i do know from experience, trauma upon trauma and battling it alone puts strain on the heart and you become disorientated it gets to the stage where death is the easiest option and by the way he is talking about being better off in jail, he has reached this stage. All we can do is pray for him, satan is putting more and more pressure upon him, thats what he does best kick you when your down. Lets all say a prayer tonight, it must be a lonely place indeed.

Elizabeth.

[ejowoke]

JD,
no one could possibly understand the ordeal he must be going through, one thing i do know from experience, trauma upon trauma and battling it alone puts strain on the heart and you become disorientated it gets to the stage where death is the easiest option and by the way he is talking about being better off in jail, he has reached this stage. All we can do is pray for him, satan is putting more and more pressure upon him, thats what he does best kick you when your down. Lets all say a prayer tonight, it must be a lonely place indeed.

Elizabeth.[/b]

Elizabeth,

What we cope with is immeasurable to the future prospect we have as true christains. All one may need in times of stress or trauma is continuous encouragement and prayer. just never forget Jehovah and he will surely make a way.
kingsley

[shikinah]

Kingsley, thats very true. In my times of despair continuous prayer despite immediate answers or not is the only way, sometimes our prayers maynot be answered for years but even this may become our test, as i have seen it become for certain ones i know.

Elizabeth