The Two Witnesses

[YeshiYahu]

Could it be, I my be out in left field but is it possible that the two Witnesses could be the eleventh hour

workers, with their zeal and lack of tolerance of Jehovah's name being profaned, not being able to keep

quite even with all the pressure in the Kingdom Hall to duo so and set a side by the Organization. And the slave class that will be beaten with a few storks who have remained quite with some misguided idea

that it would be rebelling against Jehovah to stand up and defend Jehovah's name when the evil slave profanes it?

[shikinah]

Hi Yeshi Yahu,
I keep hearing the term "eleventh hour workers" who are they? :huh:

Elizabeth

[Rogue]

Matthew 20:1-34


1 “For the kingdom of the heavens is like a man, a householder, who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. 2 When he had agreed with the workers for a de·nar´i·us a day, he sent them forth into his vineyard. 3 Going out also about the third hour, he saw others standing unemployed in the marketplace; 4 and to those he said, ‘YOU also, go into the vineyard, and whatever is just I will give YOU.’ 5 So off they went. Again he went out about the sixth and the ninth hour and did likewise. 6 Finally, about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing, and he said to them, ‘Why have YOU been standing here all day unemployed?’ 7 They said to him, ‘Because nobody has hired us.’ He said to them, ‘YOU too go into the vineyard.’

8 “When it became evening, the master of the vineyard said to his man in charge, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, proceeding from the last to the first.’ 9 When the eleventh-hour men came, they each received a de·nar´i·us. 10 So, when the first came, they concluded they would receive more; but they also received pay at the rate of a de·nar´i·us. 11 On receiving it they began to murmur against the householder 12 and said, ‘These last put in one hour’s work; still you made them equal to us who bore the burden of the day and the burning heat!’ 13 But in reply to one of them he said, ‘Fellow, I do you no wrong. You agreed with me for a de·nar´i·us, did you not? 14 Take what is yours and go. I want to give to this last one the same as to you. 15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I want with my own things? Or is your eye wicked because I am good?’ 16 In this way the last ones will be first, and the first ones last.”

[Rogue]

I have read this passage by accident yesterday as I was reading the gospel of Matthew to prepare for the memorial... I did wonder myself: what might this illustration realy mean? An easy explanation is that some people are faithfull christians from youth to their death, never commiting any big sins and always serving Jehovah, while others go wild and do everything God forbids, only to repent at old age, and they still receive the same forgiveness and reward from Jehovah... it might seem unfair to the ones who did all the hard work and saraficed so much for the truth, but it is not loving of these workers to resent the 11th hour workers therefor... they should praise Jehovah for His love and kindness and His will to save as many as possible, but humans sometimes find it hard to see things trough His eyes!

But is there a deeper meaning to the illustration I wonder... might it have to do with the annointed that call themselves the FDS, who can trace back their origins to Russell... and maybe a new group of annointed that might come to the foreground in the 11th hour, almost at the end, and who might be blessed with insight, maybe even prophesy... like the 2 witnisses maybe... it could be... we can only know when that time comes

[shikinah]

Thank you Rogue,
for those scriptures, yes i do remember this account, it was given at an assembly once. I rember him saying to the crowd, there will be many who will come into gods house rght toward the very end, and many will complain as to how is this possible, "when we have done the preaching work and waited so patiently" Each of us have a unique relationship with Jehovah and cannot be compared with others performances within the wts, but on our heart felt desire to serve god despite what we may or may not gain.


Elizabeth

[shikinah]

I have read this passage by accident yesterday as I was reading the gospel of Matthew to prepare for the memorial... I did wonder myself: what might this illustration realy mean? An easy explanation is that some people are faithfull christians from youth to their death, never commiting any big sins and always serving Jehovah, while others go wild and do everything God forbids, only to repent at old age, and they still receive the same forgiveness and reward from Jehovah... it might seem unfair to the ones who did all the hard work and saraficed so much for the truth, but it is not loving of these workers to resent the 11th hour workers therefor... they should praise Jehovah for His love and kindness and His will to save as many as possible, but humans sometimes find it hard to see things trough His eyes!

But is there a deeper meaning to the illustration I wonder... might it have to do with the annointed that call themselves the FDS, who can trace back their origins to Russell... and maybe a new group of annointed that might come to the foreground in the 11th hour, almost at the end, and who might be blessed with insight, maybe even prophesy... like the 2 witnisses maybe... it could be... we can only know when that time comes[/b]


I mentioned something like this last week,
about the other annointed who followed Russell, they may not have spread the word as far and wide as the witnesses, but may have an important work toward the end. As im finding more and more people are learning about and praising Jehovahs name. It will be interesting to see whats ahead in these last days.

Elizabeth

[YeshiYahu]

<div class='quotemain'>I have read this passage by accident yesterday as I was reading the gospel of Matthew to prepare for the memorial... I did wonder myself: what might this illustration realy mean? An easy explanation is that some people are faithfull christians from youth to their death, never commiting any big sins and always serving Jehovah, while others go wild and do everything God forbids, only to repent at old age, and they still receive the same forgiveness and reward from Jehovah... it might seem unfair to the ones who did all the hard work and saraficed so much for the truth, but it is not loving of these workers to resent the 11th hour workers therefor... they should praise Jehovah for His love and kindness and His will to save as many as possible, but humans sometimes find it hard to see things trough His eyes!

But is there a deeper meaning to the illustration I wonder... might it have to do with the annointed that call themselves the FDS, who can trace back their origins to Russell... and maybe a new group of annointed that might come to the foreground in the 11th hour, almost at the end, and who might be blessed with insight, maybe even prophesy... like the 2 witnisses maybe... it could be... we can only know when that time comes[/b]


I mentioned something like this last week,
about the other annointed who followed Russell, they may not have spread the word as far and wide as the witnesses, but may have an important work toward the end. As im finding more and more people are learning about and praising Jehovahs name. It will be interesting to see whats ahead in these last days.

Elizabeth
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The de·nar´i·us wage is the reward of ever lasting life in heaven, the vine is the harvest of the Earth.

[shikinah]

<div class='quotemain'><div class='quotemain'>I have read this passage by accident yesterday as I was reading the gospel of Matthew to prepare for the memorial... I did wonder myself: what might this illustration realy mean? An easy explanation is that some people are faithfull christians from youth to their death, never commiting any big sins and always serving Jehovah, while others go wild and do everything God forbids, only to repent at old age, and they still receive the same forgiveness and reward from Jehovah... it might seem unfair to the ones who did all the hard work and saraficed so much for the truth, but it is not loving of these workers to resent the 11th hour workers therefor... they should praise Jehovah for His love and kindness and His will to save as many as possible, but humans sometimes find it hard to see things trough His eyes!

But is there a deeper meaning to the illustration I wonder... might it have to do with the annointed that call themselves the FDS, who can trace back their origins to Russell... and maybe a new group of annointed that might come to the foreground in the 11th hour, almost at the end, and who might be blessed with insight, maybe even prophesy... like the 2 witnisses maybe... it could be... we can only know when that time comes[/b]


I mentioned something like this last week,
about the other annointed who followed Russell, they may not have spread the word as far and wide as the witnesses, but may have an important work toward the end. As im finding more and more people are learning about and praising Jehovahs name. It will be interesting to see whats ahead in these last days.

Elizabeth
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The de·nar´i·us wage is the reward of ever lasting life in heaven, the vine is the harvest of the Earth.


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Thank you for that explanation

Elizabeth

[panda]

Matt 19:30; Mrk 10:31

But many that are first will be last and the last first.

[shikinah]

Thats devine justice :)