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shikinah
04-25-2009, 02:37 PM
So does this scripture speak about a seperate glad tidings, as the wts states that their final message will be one of gloom?

REVELATION 14:6-7
And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 (http://) saying in a loud voice: “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.”

This sounds like a seperate type of preaching..with angelic witnessing.


REVELATION 14:8-11
And another, a second angel, followed, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!”

And another angel, a third, followed them, saying in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the wild beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, 10 (http://) he will also drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of his wrath, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. 11 (http://) And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.

So is it saying that even after babylon the great has actually fallen, the angels will deliver great tidings and still people have a choice as to worhip Jehovah or the beast? is tis the final calling?



Elizabeth

uglyandthin
04-25-2009, 08:10 PM
So does this scripture speak about a seperate glad tidings, as the wts states that their final message will be one of gloom?

REVELATION 14:6-7
And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people, 7 (http://) saying in a loud voice: "FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters."

This sounds like a seperate type of preaching..with angelic witnessing.


REVELATION 14:8-11
And another, a second angel, followed, saying: "She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, she who made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication!"

And another angel, a third, followed them, saying in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the wild beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, 10 (http://) he will also drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of his wrath, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. 11 (http://) And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.

So is it saying that even after babylon the great has actually fallen, the angels will deliver great tidings and still people have a choice as to worhip Jehovah or the beast? is tis the final calling?



Elizabeth[/b]

Hi Elizabeth:

You probably already know that the WT teaches that this has had it's fulfillment with thier preaching work during the 20th and early 21st Centuries. As laudable as that work has been, I think it merely fulfilled the gathering of the Bride of Christ. E & E's reference to Ezekiel 34 shows us that although they did a decent job in gathering the remaining ones of Christ's Bride, they have done a woeful job of not only gathering the rest of the sheep, but they have done way more scattering and abusing of the rest of the flock of God than they have done gathering (about 1/10 of 1%)

Jehovah will gather his sheep his way and in his own time. I think you are correct in assuming that these scriptures in Revelation allude to that fact. Remember again, I can't say this enough, Jesus name means "Jehovah "is" Salvation". He will save people in a big way, I have a feeling! Hopefully we will get an invitation to help in this work, but it will mostly be done (I think the marking is already done) by the angels.
The harvest is a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels. <sup>40</sup> Therefore, just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire, so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. <sup>41</sup> The Son of man will send forth his angels, and they will collect out from his kingdom all things that cause stumbling and persons who are doing lawlessness, <sup>42</sup> and they will pitch them into the fiery furnace. There is where [their] weeping and the gnashing of [their] teeth will be. <sup>43</sup> At that time the righteous ones will shine as brightly as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Let him that has ears listen.

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