Be Patient

[shikinah]

I found this on another site, and i find the words so encouraging.

A Letter to our beloved Brothers and Sisters:
Please keep in mind that the present troubles that we are experiencing within God's household, including the testing of our faith, must occur for Jehovah foretold it. Otherwise, "how would the Scriptures be fulfilled that it must take place this way?" (Matt. 26:54; Luke 21:22) "You know that you learn to endure by having your faith tested." May Jehovah therefore help you all to endure as you continue to be patient and trust in him, not growing weary, but with full confidence that you will receive all that he has promised. (James 1:3, CEV; Rev. 2:2,3)

"People do not hope for something they already have. But we are hoping for something we do not have yet, and we are waiting for it patiently." (Rom. 8:24,25; New Century Version)

http://perimeno.ca/pics/Signature_3.GIF</span>

The site also promotes Robert Kings Forum, heres a link to the perimeno site.
http://perimeno.ca/Index_A.htm

[watchman]

Perimeno used to be a member of this discussion board a few years ago. For whatever reason he left and set up his own website. I suspect he was not comfortable with many of the things I had written. But having glanced at the article you linked to where he is identifying the GB as being the man of lawlessness, apparently he teaches pretty much the same thing as I do now. I am curious, though, whether he categorizes Paul&#39;s prophecy regarding the revealing of the man of lawlessness as a prophecy we need to know, or one we don&#39;t need to know right now? :icon_neutral:

watchman

[shikinah]

Perimeno used to be a member of this discussion board a few years ago. For whatever reason he left and set up his own website. I suspect he was not comfortable with many of the things I had written. But having glanced at the article you linked to where he is identifying the GB as being the man of lawlessness, apparently he teaches pretty much the same thing as I do now. I am curious, though, is Paul&#39;s prophecy regarding the revealing of the man of lawlessness a prophecy we need to know, or one we don&#39;t need to know right now? :icon_neutral:

watchman[/b]


I didnt realise this, but did notice similarities, havnt read everything on the site, i liked the fact that he stated that now we know this " new knowledge" it is for ourselves as it was probably revealed to us while in deep search for answers. But is not necessarily for everyone only those who are ready to accept the new found concept, while others are quite content with what they know. So do you yourself say that some of the governing body is the man of lawlessness? :bad:

[watchman]

I didnt realise this, but did notice similarities, havnt read everything on the site, i liked the fact that he stated that now we know this " new knowledge" it is for ourselves as it was probably revealed to us while in deep search for answers. But is not necessarily for everyone only those who are ready to accept the new found concept, while others are quite content with what they know. So do you yourself say that some of the governing body is the man of lawlessness?[/b]

I have not read all of his articles either. But my impression is that one of the reasons he, whether consciously or unconsciously, set up his site, is to try to neutralize what I am doing. I think it horrified him that I did mass mailings to congregations and branch offices around the world and I invited others to do the same, if they were so inclined. Apparently, he personally is not so inclined to make known Jehovah&#39;s judgments outside of the relatively small circle of JW&#39;s associated with e-watchman.

But Perimeno is obviously concerned about the spiritual welfare of Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses and he tries to encourage the brothers and sisters to be strong in faith, and that is the important thing.

As for the man of lawlessness, I have not specifically committed myself to saying that the GB as a whole is the man of lawlessness, only that the man of lawlessness works within that body, just as Judas, who is also the only other individual in scripture called the "son of destruction," was within the body of the apostles.

watchman

[shikinah]

Its great to see so many with a passion for revealing Jehovahs righteuosness, all with the same view but directed in different ways, yours is more hard hitting and beneficial to those who need to hear it head on, his is a softer aproach, but thats probably after joining your site and gearing this from another angle. Whats great is Jehovah is using his holy spirit in many ways to get his work accomplished. But like you said the revealing of the man of lawlessness on his site is quite hard hitting too, wasnt expecting lol. But its good that individuals are working toward catching the lost sheep and feeding them with what they need at the proper time.

Elizabeth

[TheMdC]

As for the man of lawlessness, I have not specifically committed myself to saying that the GB as a whole is the man of lawlessness, only that the man of lawlessness works within that body, just as Judas, who is also the only other individual in scripture called the "son of destruction," was within the body of the apostles.

watchman[/b]

I strongly suspect that you&#39;re correct. Just as when the nation of Israel periodically turned away from pure worship there was always a remnant of faithful ones, likely even among the Levites and priests.

I&#39;m not a sociologist or psychologist but I&#39;ve been through a few classes and have observed group dynamics and bodies of elders throughout my 40+ years. If the GB are a typical group of human beings, then they have one or two who are assertive and take the lead in making most or all of the decisions (usually in agreement with each other, sometimes in compromise to one another). There are probably another 4 or 5 who are just glad to be there and go along with the leaders. And there are probably 2 or 3 who think for themselves but realizing that as a minority there is little they can do at the moment and therefore wait on Jehovah while including as much truth as they can into the spiritual diet the body puts out without pushing it to the point that they&#39;re expelled.

This is just an educated guess based on typical group dynamics. I don&#39;t know a single one of the GB by name or by face.

[shikinah]

Well if Judas was lead astray and he actually was in the presence of Jesus anythings possible.

[imjustaskin]

But Perimeno is obviously concerned about the spiritual welfare of Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses and he tries to encourage the brothers and sisters to be strong in faith, and that is the important thing.
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I agree, we need all the help and positive messages we can get.

As for the man of lawlessness being within the GB, how else could you possibly explain the duality we see? Some articles, etc, are so loving and filled with Jehovah&#39;s holy spirit (IE the Draw Close to Jehovah book) and then others are so flat out arrogant and harsh? The answer seems obvious. At least in my opinion:-)

[shikinah]

But Perimeno is obviously concerned about the spiritual welfare of Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses and he tries to encourage the brothers and sisters to be strong in faith, and that is the important thing.



I agree, we need all the help and positive messages we can get.

As for the man of lawlessness being within the GB, how else could you possibly explain the duality we see? Some articles, etc, are so loving and filled with Jehovah&#39;s holy spirit (IE the Draw Close to Jehovah book) and then others are so flat out arrogant and harsh? The answer seems obvious. At least in my opinion:-)[/b]


I personally think its great,
its simplistic and straight to the point, its obvious the man of lawlessness is amongst them, how else could the wts become members of the UN, but as Perimino stated its all part of prophesy.