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shikinah
05-26-2009, 10:30 AM
I have only started looking into the works of this man, and never realised he had been going to JW's meetings and married a JW wife who accused him of child abuse many years ago but no case was proven against him, but the society came down on him. Some of his research on the witnesses is quite deep and desturbing but nothing shocks me anymore. I listened to a few of his talks and they were some of the best i have ever heard. You can see he loves Yahweh shame he doesnt understand the truth as Robert King teaches. He must speak a lot of truth or the feds wouldnt have conspired to lock him up for nine years for a crime he claims he never commited.
Does anyone else know anything about this? Here is the article..

November 13, 2003
Bank robbers might have been home grown terrorists

PORTLAND - A list of possible terror targets compiled by an ultra-right wing group, including government buildings and other facilities were made public Thursday as a federal judge sentenced a Portland area man for his part in a 1997 bank robbery.

After the sentencing of Fritz Springmeier, a self-described religious author, Clackamas County Sheriff deputies revealed a loose-leaf binder seized in 2001 as a part of the case.

Springmeier, a white separatist known for his anti-government writings will serve 9 years in federal prison. Federal Judge James Redden characterized the robbery that included the detonation of a pipe bomb as a diversion as "vicious."

Among the locations handwritten in the binder entitled "Army of God, Yahweh's Warriors, were the federal building, FBI offices, and KATU studios in Portland.

Floor plans to the FBI offices were also a part of the evidence seized in a raid on property near Corbett on February 9, 2001.

In the raid, federal agents also seized a cache of military-style assault weapons, including an AK-47, hand grenades, C-4 explosives, and bomb-making ingredients that included ammonium nitrate and fuel oil.

"We take it (the target lists) very seriously," says Steve Thoroughman, a detective with Clackamas County, and the lead investigator of the U.S. government's case against Springmeier and his accomplice Forrest Bateman, who was convicted and sentenced earlier this year in connection with the bank robbery.

Thoroughman says agents of the FBI and ATF have reviewed the hand-written notes and have followed up on those leads.

"They had the means to do almost anything they wanted to," said Thoroughman. They had fully automatic AK-47's, they had night vision, they had ceramic body armor, anything they needed to carry out an assault."

Federal prosecutors say the handwritten notes were a clue to the workings of the group, but without additional overt acts they did not provide enough evidence to prove a conspiracy.

"We had to have more to make that kind of a case," said Frank Noonan, the U.S. attorney who prosecuted Springmeier.

Springmeier's wife Patricia says her husband first met Bateman at a bible study in 1995.

"He knew the bible forward and backward, and that's why they first got together," says Patricia Springmeier.

Patricia also says her husband was framed by the federal government for his writings that she believes exposed corruption at high levels of the government.

Just before sentencing Springmeier told the judge that the government had destroyed his life. As he had during his trial, Springmeier proclaimed his innocence and referred the sentence as a "divine blessing."

Martin Abernathy --- Providence, RI --- 11/15/03

Jinnvisible
05-26-2009, 04:29 PM
Fritz Springmeier's writing. Ranges from the interesting to the outlandish.

gertie
05-26-2009, 04:47 PM
He just plain scared me...I'm just not ready for writings like his. :o Not Jinns..Fritz Springmeier.

gertie xx

Jinnvisible
05-26-2009, 04:53 PM
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shikinah
05-26-2009, 05:13 PM
Fritz Springmeier's writing. Ranges from the interesting to the outlandish.

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I personally dont think he is a racist or supremist, this is what the reporters quoted.
When i came out of the truth years ago, and did my research, what i found was exactly the same as what he speaks about, i traced back as far as i could go and found out about these illuminati famalies. What he states about Charles Russell i also investigated before even hearing about this guy. I did my own research and traced back Charles Russells line to scotland and even further back, discovering his line started the Queens Irish Gaurds.
So as far as i know what he speaks about are facts. I have to admit i dont know much about him, but his speaking out about corruption has got him imprisoned.

Elizabeth

shikinah
05-26-2009, 05:18 PM
He just plain scared me...I'm just not ready for writings like his. :o Not Jinns..Fritz Springmeier.

gertie xx[/b]


LOl, once you know the truth, the whole truth you have nothing to fear :balt06:

Elizabeth

Jinnvisible
05-26-2009, 08:50 PM
I personally dont think he is a racist or supremist[/b]

As far as I am aware, he believes in a hierachy of races. As in one race having a greater propensity for civilisation than another.

You can be a racist without intent of malice, but i don`t think you can believe in a hierach of races without being a rascist.

Jinnvisible
05-26-2009, 09:02 PM
Some of what Fritz has said is interesting and some of it is ridiculous in the extreme like a cartoon network cabbage patch kid interpretation.

shikinah
05-27-2009, 12:11 AM
Some of what Fritz has said is interesting and some of it is ridiculous in the extreme like a cartoon network cabbage patch kid interpretation.[/b]


I have never heard of the cartoon cabbage patch hmmm very interesing :icon_rolleyes:
As he is locked away until 2012, do you think its worth sending him some of Roberts literature on the judgement of the watchtower? it would be interesting reading for him as Roberts explanation may actually make sense to him, after his bad experience with the watchtower, i doubt he has heard about Robert.

Jinnvisible
05-27-2009, 01:11 AM
People who stir the pot are often victims of the power structure so he may not be even guilty of what hes in prison for. Even if he is, it may be good to do something like that.

I generally believe in much of the information that is out there on these issues such as the illuminati bloodlines. Although I found his book `The Watchtower and the Masons` to be stiffled and limited in some of its reasoning.

shikinah
05-27-2009, 04:43 AM
People who stir the pot are often victims of the power structure so he may not be even guilty of what hes in prison for. Even if he is, it may be good to do something like that.

I generally believe in much of the information that is out there on these issues such as the illuminati bloodlines. Although I found his book `The Watchtower and the Masons` to be stiffled and limited in some of its reasoning. [/b]


I would agree with you there, that he does come down very heavy on the watchtower,mind you i havnt actually read his books just listened to the videos. He states his reasoning is because a friend of his who was in the witnesses and apparently an elder had been adopted as a child from two illuminati bloodlines who were witnesses and he later discovered he had been through some form of ritulistic mind trauma as a child, which others had put down to demonism.

Elizabeth

FutureMan
05-27-2009, 04:43 AM
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I&#39;m not sure what to make of it, but it sure is interesting.
I did not know that he he was imprisoned.

From FutureMan .

shikinah
05-27-2009, 06:07 AM
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I&#39;m not sure what to make of it, but it sure is interesting.
I did not know that he he was imprisoned.

From FutureMan .
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Hi Futureman,
Like you i was surprised to hear this, before this i use to hear his name being spoken of, but never realised it was his videos i had watched, and related his findings to my own research. I must admit the last video i watched, he seemed very nervous indeed, either he knew he had spoken out too much about these orders, or someone was going to find the shot gun with his finger prints on for this so called bank robbery, me personally i find it hard to believe with this mans popularity why he&#39;d set himself up like this?

Elizabeth