Dowsing?

[shikinah]

A customer of mine is interested in hair analysis and i told them that most forms are done via dowsing, he says its the same as dowsing for water that its scientific. I know for a fact dowsing using a pendulum is divination, but is all water dowsing purely divination or is there any scientific evidence to it?

I found this about it which is very interesting.



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<div align="left">Map dowsers use a dowsing device, usually a pendulum, over maps to locate oil, minerals, persons, water, etc. However, the prototype of a dowser is the field dowser who walks around an area using a forked stick to locate underground water. When above water, the rod points downward. (Some dowsers use two rods. The rods cross when above water.) Various theories have been given as to what causes the rods to move: electromagnetic or other subtle geological forces, suggestion from others or from geophysical observations, ESP and other paranormal explanations, etc. Most skeptics accept the explanation of William Carpenter (1852). The rod moves due to involuntary motor behavior, which Carpenter dubbed ideomotor action.</div><div align="left">Look at these forms of divination, never knew they even existed...</div><div align="left">ceromancy (by the melting of wax</div><div align="left">gastromancy (by the sound of or marks on the belly</div><div align="left">myrmomancy (divination by watching ants eating)</div><div align="left">oneiromancy (interpretation of dreams)</div><div align="left">oinomancy (divination by wine)</div><div align="left">tiromancy (interpreting the holes or mold in cheese</div><div align="left">urim v&#39;tumim (reading sacred stones attached to
the breastplate of the high priest in ancient Judaism</div><div align="left">uromancy (divination by reading bubbles made by urinating in a pot :icon_eek: </div><div align="left"> </div><div align="left">( I have tried to space this article out so its easier to read, but it wont let me)</div>

[TheMdC]

I don&#39;t know how it works but I know it works. A building contractor my family used to know would decide where to put wells on property using dowsing. ALWAYS worked. He was just a normal guy. Not into anything occult.

[shikinah]

I don&#39;t know how it works but I know it works. A building contractor my family used to know would decide where to put wells on property using dowsing. ALWAYS worked. He was just a normal guy. Not into anything occult.[/b]

Thats what im saying, where do you draw the line? there must be a scientific reasoning for water being detected, are your family witnesses?

[kim-bo]

my grand father used to divine for water .
i will keep well away from it .

[shikinah]

my grand father used to divine for water .
i will keep well away from it .[/b]

Thank you, I have no intentions of getting involved in it, the info is for a customer/client of mine who thinks its harmless..why would you say keep away from it, when the Mdc said his family found no problem with it?

[FutureMan]

<div class='quotemain'>my grand father used to divine for water .
i will keep well away from it .[/b]

Thank you, I have no intentions of getting involved in it, the info is for a customer/client of mine who thinks its harmless..why would you say keep away from it, when the Mdc said his family found no problem with it?
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Hello all, I don&#39;t know how water divining works especially the one used with brass L shaped rods.

I had a unique experience when I was a young lad, up in my home town.

One day I was visiting my young friends who were both Bible studies of someone else and had both being attending the meetings.
Their mother was a baptized witness though.
Anyway to cut the story short, while I was there visiting we all heard a knock on the door and lo and behold their was a guy standing there who specialized in water divining, who was sent there by a relative of the boys mother to find out if there was any water under her house.
Apparently their mother suffered from an Arthritis condition of which water could make her condition worse.

Anyway the boys let him in and he went from room to room until he came into the dining room where we were having lunch.

Out of curiosity I asked him how the rods worked.

He obliged by passing the rods over each of our heads.
Apparently it picks up the cushion of fluid that is protecting our brains on top of our heads.
Anyway when he passed it over the two boys heads the rods started swinging to and fro, but when it came to my head it stopped dead.
Now I don&#39;t know whether he was playing a joke on me or not, but it appeared to me that he had a puzzled look on his face as he said that it was a bit weird.

Either I did not have that all important cushion of fluid on top to protect my brain or something else was going on.

Anyway he did not really explain to us how the rods worked.
Perhaps it is a water diviners trade secret.
Maybe they don&#39;t know themselves. (perhaps it is powered by the demons after all).

From FutureMan

[shikinah]

No cerebral fluid lol..he must have been playing tricks :poke.sml:

[TheMdC]

<div class='quotemain'>I don&#39;t know how it works but I know it works. A building contractor my family used to know would decide where to put wells on property using dowsing. ALWAYS worked. He was just a normal guy. Not into anything occult.[/b]

Thats what im saying, where do you draw the line? there must be a scientific reasoning for water being detected, are your family witnesses?
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At the time, just mom was a Witness. And my family never did it ourselves. Just an acquaintance who built several houses we knew of, including one of ours, and always located the wells this way. He was known around town for it.

[shikinah]

<div class='quotemain'><div class='quotemain'>I don&#39;t know how it works but I know it works. A building contractor my family used to know would decide where to put wells on property using dowsing. ALWAYS worked. He was just a normal guy. Not into anything occult.[/b]

Thats what im saying, where do you draw the line? there must be a scientific reasoning for water being detected, are your family witnesses?
[/b][/quote]
At the time, just mom was a Witness. And my family never did it ourselves. Just an acquaintance who built several houses we knew of, including one of ours, and always located the wells this way. He was known around town for it.
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Seemed like it was quite a common method back then, never heard of it being used in the uk, but im sure it was used at some point.

[shikinah]

urim v&#39;tumim (reading sacred stones attached to
the breastplate of the high priest in ancient Judaism.

Did some research on this, it stated that the high priests had the names of the 12 tribes on each stone plus letters, and along with the stones the holy and sacred name Urim tumim was hidden within the fold and when they would want answers they would call on this these names and the stones would glow spelling out the answer.
Exodus 28:30 "And you shall place in the breastplate the Urim and the Tumim."
the High Priest ... would gaze at the stones of the breastplate in deep contemplation. ... it would answer ... by accentuating the letters ... These letters were engraved in the stones, but when the priest was meditating on them they would appear to be protruding like the letters on type.

Has anyone heard of this before?