Torahs Account..

[shikinah]

I have been looking at accounts taken from the Torah and a site i found highlights important points.

Why is only seth mentioned in Adams likeness wasnt Cain and Able in his likeness? it gives an account from Seths line down to the Messiah. Also the importance of the sabbath day is interesting. By reading this info i the Christian Jews, are more like the witnesses than any other religion.


When Adam had lived one hundred and thirty years, he became the father of a son in his own likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth” – Genesis 5:3.

<div align="left">God maintained a righteous line (that does not mean sinless), essentially through a priesthood of the firstborn. Adam lived almost until Noah, who later picked up the priestly line and carried it through the Great Flood. Noah’s life overlapped Abraham’s. Abraham lived through the dispersion of nations from Babel, and then God called him to begin the establishment of a people and place from which to disseminate His instruction to the nations.</div>
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<div align="left">The commandments were needed to define sin and righteousness, because fallen man had gotten so far away from understanding how to love Yahweh and neighbor. </div>
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<div align="left">God’s instruction would now come in writing, because man had strayed so far from the way. Moses was chosen to receive the five books called “Torah”, though the term can refer to all of God’s instruction from Adam’s time, including the Prophets and Holy Writings. We would see Yeshua’s words as Torah also, though we are primarily using the term for the Books of Moses.</div>
<div align="left">From this perspective, we understand that a salvation by grace, through faith in Yeshua that produces Torah observance (good works), applies to people of every age, from Adam to Abraham to Moses to David to Paul and to us. Some looked forward and some look back to the offering of Messiah as redeemer.</div>
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<div align="left">The Church</div>
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<div align="left">Through a covenant with Abraham, God promised His people a redeemer, and a restoration to Paradise. When Abraham’s descendants were enslaved in Egypt, God delivered them, along with a multitude from the nations. God called this remnant of Abraham and the nations His church. It was set to be a light to the whole world. The faithless would be continually weeded out, and others brought in to the faith.</div>
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<div align="left">“I will establish My covenant between Me and you (Abraham) and your descendants after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your descendants after you” – Genesis 17:7.</div>
<div align="left">“The whole assembly of the congregation of Israel” – Exodus 12:6.</div>
<div align="left">“This is the one who was in the congregation in the wilderness” – Acts 7:38.</div>
<div align="left">“I will also make you a light of the nations, so that My Salvation may reach to the end of the earth” – Isaiah 49:6; compare Matthew 22:37-39.</div>
<div align="left">“Some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them . . . they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith” – Romans 11:17, 20.</div>
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<div align="left">The term “church” did not originate in Apostolic times. It is a translation of (Gr.) ekklesia, which in turn is a translation, from the Septuagint, of (Heb.) qehal. The word qehal is commonly used in the Torah, sometimes translated “congregation”. This qehal is referred to in Acts as the “church in the wilderness”.</div>
<div align="left">God did not forsake His covenant with Abraham to start a new religion called Christianity. Paul said that gentile believers are partakers of the Abrahamic Covenant. Yeshua said that He would build-up His church (which had long existed), and that the doors of death would never swallow it up – it will never die out, or need to be replaced.</div>
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<div align="left">“Therefore remember that formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called ‘Uncircumcision‘ by the so-called ‘Circumcision,’ which is performed in the flesh by human hands-- remember that you were at that time separate from Messiah, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Messiah Yeshua you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Messiah” – Ephesians 2:11-13.</div>
<div align="left">“I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it” – Matthew 16:18</div>
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<div align="left">SABBATH DAY?</div>
<div align="left">Yeshua said[3] (http://www.messianic.ws/sabbath.htm#_ftn3)[color="#800000"]Concerning the Sabbath Millennium: “The Day of Yahweh will be great and very awesome” – Joel 2:11.
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[FutureMan]

I have been looking at accounts taken from the Torah and a site i found highlights important points.

Why is only seth mentioned in Adams likeness wasnt Cain and Able in his likeness? it gives an account from Seths line down to the Messiah. Also the importance of the sabbath day is interesting. By reading this info i the Christian Jews, are more like the witnesses than any other religion.


When Adam had lived one hundred and thirty years, he became the father of a son in his own likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth" – Genesis 5:3.

<div align="left">God maintained a righteous line (that does not mean sinless), essentially through a priesthood of the firstborn. Adam lived almost until Noah, who later picked up the priestly line and carried it through the Great Flood. Noah&#39;s life overlapped Abraham&#39;s. Abraham lived through the dispersion of nations from Babel, and then God called him to begin the establishment of a people and place from which to disseminate His instruction to the nations.
<div align="left"> </div>
<div align="left">The commandments were needed to define sin and righteousness, because fallen man had gotten so far away from understanding how to love Yahweh and neighbor. </div>
<div align="left"> </div>
<div align="left">God&#39;s instruction would now come in writing, because man had strayed so far from the way. Moses was chosen to receive the five books called "Torah", though the term can refer to all of God&#39;s instruction from Adam&#39;s time, including the Prophets and Holy Writings. We would see Yeshua&#39;s words as Torah also, though we are primarily using the term for the Books of Moses.</div>
<div align="left">From this perspective, we understand that a salvation by grace, through faith in Yeshua that produces Torah observance (good works), applies to people of every age, from Adam to Abraham to Moses to David to Paul and to us. Some looked forward and some look back to the offering of Messiah as redeemer.</div>
<div align="left"> </div>
<div align="left">The Church</div>
<div align="left"> </div>
<div align="left">Through a covenant with Abraham, God promised His people a redeemer, and a restoration to Paradise. When Abraham&#39;s descendants were enslaved in Egypt, God delivered them, along with a multitude from the nations. God called this remnant of Abraham and the nations His church. It was set to be a light to the whole world. The faithless would be continually weeded out, and others brought in to the faith.</div>
<div align="left"> </div>
<div align="left">"I will establish My covenant between Me and you (Abraham) and your descendants after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your descendants after you" – Genesis 17:7.</div>
<div align="left">"The whole assembly of the congregation of Israel" – Exodus 12:6.</div>
<div align="left">"This is the one who was in the congregation in the wilderness" – Acts 7:38.</div>
<div align="left">"I will also make you a light of the nations, so that My Salvation may reach to the end of the earth" – Isaiah 49:6; compare Matthew 22:37-39.</div>
<div align="left">"Some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them . . . they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith" – Romans 11:17, 20.</div>
<div align="left"> </div>
<div align="left">The term "church" did not originate in Apostolic times. It is a translation of (Gr.) ekklesia, which in turn is a translation, from the Septuagint, of (Heb.) qehal. The word qehal is commonly used in the Torah, sometimes translated "congregation". This qehal is referred to in Acts as the "church in the wilderness".</div>
<div align="left">God did not forsake His covenant with Abraham to start a new religion called Christianity. Paul said that gentile believers are partakers of the Abrahamic Covenant. Yeshua said that He would build-up His church (which had long existed), and that the doors of death would never swallow it up – it will never die out, or need to be replaced.</div>
<div align="left"> </div>
<div align="left">"Therefore remember that formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called &#39;Uncircumcision&#39; by the so-called &#39;Circumcision,&#39; which is performed in the flesh by human hands-- remember that you were at that time separate from Messiah, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Messiah Yeshua you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Messiah" – Ephesians 2:11-13.</div>
<div align="left">"I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it" – Matthew 16:18</div>
<div align="left"> </div>
<div align="left"> </div>
<div align="left">SABBATH DAY?</div>
<div align="left">Yeshua said[3] (http://www.messianic.ws/sabbath.htm#_ftn3)<span style="font-family:Times New Roman">Hello Elizabeth I think it might be because Noah was a descendant from Seth, and so we are all descendants of Noah today, including the Jews of course.
Cains line died out with the flood.

Just my thought, from FutureMan.

[shikinah]

Thank you for that, what about Abel, was he in Seths line, was wondering why they never started with him?

Also i never looked at this scripture before in this way, that it was refering to his own death, do the watchtower interpret this way?

"Yeshua used a complaint about healing on the Sabbath to prophesy of His own Sabbath resurrection, saying: "What man among you who has a sheep, if it falls into a pit, will he not raise it out on the Sabbath?" – Matthew 12:11. God was among them, and His Lamb was in a pit for three days, and He raised it out on the Sabbath"

[FutureMan]

Thank you for that, what about Abel, was he in Seths line, was wondering why they never started with him?

Also i never looked at this scripture before in this way, that it was refering to his own death, do the watchtower interpret this way?

"Yeshua used a complaint about healing on the Sabbath to prophesy of His own Sabbath resurrection, saying: "What man among you who has a sheep, if it falls into a pit, will he not raise it out on the Sabbath?" – Matthew 12:11. God was among them, and His Lamb was in a pit for three days, and He raised it out on the Sabbath"[/b]

From my understanding, Cain was first born and then Abel and then Seth, who more or less replaced Abel, in Adam and Eves eyes. Daughters were born after this.

From FutureMan.

PS I&#39;m just changing my comment to the fact that perhaps daughters were born after Abel was born, because Cain took one of his sisters as a wife.
She would have to be of age, for this to happen.