Not So Gay

[shikinah]

Jehovah’s Witnesses Categorically Reject Homosexuality—Because The Bible Does
July 7, 2009 — JWN
If that surprises you, then you may be interested to know that Jehovah’s Witnesses also reject the act of Angels taking human wives, auto erotic-asphyxiation, bestiality, incest, pedophilia, and all other sexual perversions.

First, let’s make one thing clear— The same way anyone with half a brain knows that life on T.V. does not reflect real life, Homosexuality is NOT cute rainbows, well dressed men engaged in clean living, and a loving community just waiting to embrace your emotional needs. That’s fake T.V. land gay.It is however, fat, sick, sweaty, old, stinky, hair infested, men with pimples. Homosexual sex is fecal matter, blood, & guilt. After all, it’s not called homocaring, homoliving, it’s homoSEXUAL, identifying you by a sexual perversion.http://jehovahswitnessnews.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/dateman1.png

While we’re at it, we are no more “homo-phobic”, than we are pedo-phobic, forni-phobic, greedi-phobic, drunki-phobic…phobias are unfounded fears. This is well grounded disdain. We are “homo-discusted”, “homo-nausiated” and rightly so.

The despicable act Homosexuals engage in is called sodomy, from the ancient city of Sodom, who, along with the entire city of Gomorrah, had the opportunity to experience the business end of God’s atomic wrath, 2 cities wiped off the map forever, all because they were “UNREPENTANT” Homosexuals*—no doubt God uses in this case a method of sterilizing destruction so you don’t leave their contaminated microbes behind to wreak havoc on our immune system. Even plant, & animal life were reduced to ash.

I emphasize “repentant” because that’s what matters most. Christ did not die for sinners, he died on behalf of repentant sinners. The world has, for the most part, confused tolerance of the sinner, with tolerance for the sin. This accounts for the widespread acceptance (”tolerance”) of lying, adultery, cheating, sexual promiscuity, apathy or even ire for God’s Word.

No other group has flaunted their spiritual, moral, & human degradation more than the so called “GAY” community, instead of learning from the consequences of the past, publicly parade ”pride” of their sinful course before God and all to see.

“But on the day that Lot came out of Sod′om it rained fire and sulphur from heaven and destroyed them all. The same way it will be on that day when the Son of man is to be revealed.” —Luke 17:29-30


“…by reducing the cities Sod′om and Gomor′rah to ashes he condemned them, setting a pattern for ungodly persons of things to come; and he delivered righteous Lot, who was greatly distressed by the indulgence of the law-defying people in loose conduct— for that righteous man by what he saw and heard while dwelling among them from day to day was tormenting his righteous soul by reason of their lawless deeds— Jehovah knows how to deliver people of godly devotion out of trial, but to reserve unrighteous people for the day of judgment to be cut off, especially, however, those who go on after flesh with the desire to defile [it] and who look down on lordship…” —2Peter 2: 6-10

Several decades ago, when the States began to legalize fornication (the man act), many were concerned this course would lead to widespread acceptance of homosexuality & incest, and they were told “HOGWASH! No evidence that one leads to the other!” Well, how wrong they were about that! Now, we have a call for more acceptance of these perverted sexual practices, & soon, no doubt, you’ll be asked to vote on weather or not you support incestuous marriage. Unrealistic you say?— Just get a peek below of an article I’m working on for August…you may want to stop and get a vomit bag first…just in case.

Im glad they wrote this article, as too many sitcoms and tv shows glorify these people as if their doing a good thing.
As the bible said "what will be bad will be good" of course Jesus died for them too, but like us all, we have to make sacrifices.

[TheMdC]

Strong article. Where's it from?

[shikinah]

Strong article. Where's it from?[/b]


I know, the sites called Jehovahs Witness News, was going to post the second article about what they are promoting in famalies in Germany, but it is so bad, i'd pobably be thrown off the site, the guy wasnt joking when he said you'd need a bag. Any wanting the article pm me and i'll send it.

Every time you think it cant get worse look at this.

THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary

__________________________________________________ _________
For Immediate Release June 1, 2009

LESBIAN, GAY, BISEXUAL, AND TRANSGENDER PRIDE MONTH, 2009
- - - - - - -
BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
A PROCLAMATION
Forty years ago, patrons and supporters of the Stonewall Inn in New York City resisted police harassment that had become all too common for members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) community. Out of this resistance, the LGBT rights movement in America was born. During LGBT Pride Month, we commemorate the events of June 1969 and commit to achieving equal justice under law for LGBT Americans
NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim June 2009 as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month. I call upon the people of the United States to turn back discrimination and prejudice everywhere it exists.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this first day of June, in the year of our Lord two thousand nine, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-third.

BARACK OBAMA

I didnt put the whole speech, but it shows what direction we are heading. Jehovah said we must hate what he hates, sodom and gomorrah would have been spared even if ONE would change their ways but none would, even after seeing the power of the two angels.

[Utuna]

Jehovah's Witnesses Categorically Reject Homosexuality—Because The Bible Does
July 7, 2009 — JWN
If that surprises you, then you may be interested to know that Jehovah's Witnesses also reject the act of Angels taking human wives, auto erotic-asphyxiation, bestiality, incest, pedophilia, and all other sexual perversions.

First, let's make one thing clear— The same way anyone with half a brain knows that life on T.V. does not reflect real life, Homosexuality is NOT cute rainbows, well dressed men engaged in clean living, and a loving community just waiting to embrace your emotional needs. That's fake T.V. land gay.It is however, fat, sick, sweaty, old, stinky, hair infested, men with pimples. Homosexual sex is fecal matter, blood, & guilt. After all, it's not called homocaring, homoliving, it's homoSEXUAL, identifying you by a sexual perversion.http://jehovahswitnessnews.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/dateman1.png

While we're at it, we are no more "homo-phobic", than we are pedo-phobic, forni-phobic, greedi-phobic, drunki-phobic…phobias are unfounded fears. This is well grounded disdain. We are "homo-discusted", "homo-nausiated" and rightly so.

The despicable act Homosexuals engage in is called sodomy, from the ancient city of Sodom, who, along with the entire city of Gomorrah, had the opportunity to experience the business end of God's atomic wrath, 2 cities wiped off the map forever, all because they were "UNREPENTANT" Homosexuals*—no doubt God uses in this case a method of sterilizing destruction so you don't leave their contaminated microbes behind to wreak havoc on our immune system. Even plant, & animal life were reduced to ash.

I emphasize "repentant" because that's what matters most. Christ did not die for sinners, he died on behalf of repentant sinners. The world has, for the most part, confused tolerance of the sinner, with tolerance for the sin. This accounts for the widespread acceptance ("tolerance") of lying, adultery, cheating, sexual promiscuity, apathy or even ire for God's Word.

No other group has flaunted their spiritual, moral, & human degradation more than the so called "GAY" community, instead of learning from the consequences of the past, publicly parade "pride" of their sinful course before God and all to see.

"But on the day that Lot came out of Sod′om it rained fire and sulphur from heaven and destroyed them all. The same way it will be on that day when the Son of man is to be revealed." —Luke 17:29-30


"…by reducing the cities Sod′om and Gomor′rah to ashes he condemned them, setting a pattern for ungodly persons of things to come; and he delivered righteous Lot, who was greatly distressed by the indulgence of the law-defying people in loose conduct— for that righteous man by what he saw and heard while dwelling among them from day to day was tormenting his righteous soul by reason of their lawless deeds— Jehovah knows how to deliver people of godly devotion out of trial, but to reserve unrighteous people for the day of judgment to be cut off, especially, however, those who go on after flesh with the desire to defile [it] and who look down on lordship…" —2Peter 2: 6-10

Several decades ago, when the States began to legalize fornication (the man act), many were concerned this course would lead to widespread acceptance of homosexuality & incest, and they were told "HOGWASH! No evidence that one leads to the other!" Well, how wrong they were about that! Now, we have a call for more acceptance of these perverted sexual practices, & soon, no doubt, you'll be asked to vote on weather or not you support incestuous marriage. Unrealistic you say?— Just get a peek below of an article I'm working on for August…you may want to stop and get a vomit bag first…just in case.

Im glad they wrote this article, as too many sitcoms and tv shows glorify these people as if their doing a good thing.
As the bible said "what will be bad will be good" of course Jesus died for them too, but like us all, we have to make sacrifices.[/b]

Dear all,

Is that guy 28 years old? He looks like a mummy! And it is worst when I look at his teeth.... MY GOODNESS! He could hold a pen with his teeth with his mouth still kept shut! No wonder he likes long walks on the beach... he looks like the major role of "Shark Attack!"

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"J'ai pétri de la boue et j'en ai fait de l'or" - Charles Baudelaire
"S'il m'a été donné de voir un peu plus loin que les autres, c'est que je me tenais sur les épaules de géants" - Isaac Newton

[steff]

.....And it is worst when I look at his teeth.... MY GOODNESS! He could hold a pen with his teeth with his mouth still kept shut! .......[/b]

You live in France so you are not used to this view.... take next holiday in UK and it won't be shock any more. :) It's normal here. Sad but true....*


It's funny but in Tesco's you can buy DIY teeth fillings. I'm not kidding.



steff

[Juan]

I hope you all know that the bible doesn't speak against homosexuals.. but it speaks of the act of having sex with men; homosexuality, which is unclean.

Just as it doesn't speak against heterosexuals but speaks against unclean sexual perversions that even heterosexuals do.

And that article above is pure opinion when it comes to labeling homosexuals to be fat, harry old men that participate in sexual perversions. Total homophobic, stereotypical argument. There are hundreds of thousands of homosexuals within the JW org, that choose to not follow their flesh's desires and instead live by Jehovah's guidelines, either living an abstinent life or marrying later on in life.

[dgibson]

The problem I have, is with your intolerence of the way gay people behave. Can you expect them to behave different?, when their is no one that can fix their mental homonal desires?

You seem to discount, or ignore the fact, that many couples of opposite sex, also behave in deplorable manners such that you have described, as if this only is being seen among Homosexuals?

The people are not yet to the point of sodom and gommorah. When groups of men come knocking at your door demanding the release of known males to have never shown their genitals among other men, and they want you to release them so they may be inspected or toy'd with as you described, then the violence will be to the point of destruction. For now, it is a voluntary thing that ones having a problem. Right now, there is no one to turn to for help. Even if you wanted to have your testes removed, you are not allowed to have the proceedure.

Many men have grown old into their thirties knowning that their was a lack of desire for womens sexual company to them. They grew up knowing they were different. It may have been something satan planted in them, who knows, but the fact that they are unable to correct the matter themsleves, shows that they must also wait on Jehovah for help. Many remained umarried their whole lives. Now the world is connected with info of how to gain self-gradifcation, and how to do many things that are displeasing to Jehovah. Does that mean that he will not extend his mercy to those who are caught up in these very disgusting acts of a sexual nature? No, his mercy will be to anyone that will accept reason at the proper time.

For now, the whole earth is in a downward spiral toward lawlessness, and violence we have never seen before.

Now is the time, that homosexuals want to be treated like equal citizens, instead of being trampled by all these self-righteous religious snobs. Most of whom are dishing out what they think is judgements from God, when in fact they are behaving just as badly as those they comdemn.

The problem is, that the heavens is not in real time with the earth. If you knew you were goung to be punished instantly for doing wrong, you would not do it.

Because it has been centuries since sodom and gomorrah had been destoryed, people are being misled to believe that God, Jehovah is dead, or no longer exist, or never did exist. Until satan is removed, and righteous people are given power to heal, no one is going to behave correctly 100% of the time.

[James]

They grew up knowing they were different. It may have been something satan planted in them, who knows, but the fact that they are unable to correct the matter themsleves, shows that they must also wait on Jehovah for help.


Now is the time, that homosexuals want to be treated like equal citizens, [/b]

Hello David,

There is the difference. Those who are JW's realize that they are afflicted with a thorn in the flesh or in their mind. So they do NOT act on those desires. They wait on Jehovah for help.

Whereas, those in the world wants everyone to believe that it is NORMAL and acceptable for two men or two women to live together, to marry and to consummate their relationship.
They give in to those desires CONTRARY to Gods' Word.

James

[gertie]

You live in France so you are not used to this view.... take next holiday in UK and it won't be shock any more. :) It's normal here. Sad but true....


It's funny but in Tesco's you can buy DIY teeth fillings. I'm not kidding.



steff[/b]

Hey where about do you live in the uk? :D This is me (notice the teeth)

By the way Boots Chemist do the DIY kits too :Yahoo_22: full makeover.

Joking apart ..what a horrible article :icon8: . I should imagine they do not make a choice as to whether they are homosexual or not, it is just the way the Adamic sinful nature can affect some people, hormones, chemical imbalance etc.

The article stated ...... I emphasize "repentant" because that's what matters most. Christ did not die for sinners, he died on behalf of repentant sinners.

To say that Christ only died for repentant sinners is unscriptural, Christ died for all..Gal 2:20 2Cor 5:14.


gertie xx

[dgibson]

Dear, James

To those who have studied, and applied good teaching and understanding of scriptures, yes, it is easier to realize the thorn of the flesh, and practice a waiting attitude.

What about those still blinded by not having an understanding of scriptures? Yes, there are many that do not want to be under the teaching authority of someone else, or and organization affliated with the bible, because they have all shown themselves to be practicers of what they condemn. Even those high up in the WTBTS found secretly ruining other peoples lives by engaging in bad behavior.

So, my point as pure and simple as I can put it, is. Do not condemn any one segment of our society any more than another. We all are in satans playground until he is removed. At that time, if good sense, reasonableness, pure teaching, along with control of ourselves doesn't exhibit a repentant attitude,and a willingness to do good. Then we are destined for an eternal sleep. Jehovahs mercy is going to cover everybody, one time only, and we should not be the judge of who he extends his mercy to.

We should also realize that gay people are trying to live happy productive lives as normal as they can in a world full of hatred towards them. They have been the brunt of bad jokes, emotional turmoil, hatred killings, public and private discrimination based soley on admitting they are sexually drawn toward the same sex emotionally. If you have ever looked closer, you would see, that they are very earth friendly, animal friendly, artistic individuals. They have many quailties of people desireable of a paradise family. So, it may surprise many to see these ones being fully spared, and saved through the end of the system of things, though they not yet have attained ministeral servant status at a local kingdom hall.

[shikinah]

Gertie you crack me up, hey im in London, have you seen the dental costs lately lol.
I actually nearly wasnt going to post this, as i looked at his face and felt sorry for him, i thought it must be hard to get a woman, then i thought gays are fussy too, so i guess thats why his having to adverise, but none of ask to be born a certain way. But i have noticed lately in London that there getting a little bit to comfortable with themselves, pulling their trousers down in bars to attract teenage guys, walking round their tables gagging to be picked up, its absoloutly repulsive. They flaunt themselves, criticise women and put them down, they want everyone to acknowledge their sexuality, screaming like girls with over the top gestures like "look at me" gay clubs are opening in neighbourhoods, where it is like soddom and gomorrah, i heard where they pay for favours in toilets, and their ultimate goal is turn a married guy gay. Ok if your born this way, then thats a serious position to be in, but the majority are opportunists, dont want the hasstle of a womens nagging, pmt and the rest lol as this is what i have been told. But it is becoming very annoying now because they feel their special, because of the media bigging them up, which is deffinately wrong.

[Jinnvisible]

My uncle was gay.

I never met him and then I went to stay with him when I was younger, nobody told me. It totally freaked me out because he wasn`t manly gay he was queenie gay. Even that I could get over in 60 seconds, but he looked almost exactly like my dad which wierded me out.

Like watching your dad being all queenie. He died of Aids, it was sad. He left me a diamond ring which I don`t wear (I might if I were either a bodybuilder, a life insurance salesman or a Gay.) I was named as a pall bearer which was interesting because I wasn`t there at all for the funeral. Gay men such attention to detail.

When I found out that there was such a thing a gay men at first I didn`t believe it. I don`t understand those feelings. It does make some people really excited in a mean way. I`m not sure that is synonymous with finding it detestible. I detest rubarb but I don`t crack mean spirited jokes about it.

Mind you I might if people kept flaunting rubarb crumble in my face.

[Sketch]

quick question.

Why do any of you care what goes on behind the doors of other people?

Its difficult enough keeping myself inline without the added stress of having to judge other people for what they may or may not be doing in the privacy of their own home.

Its not like these people don't know what the bible says or what 'fundamentalist' Christians think of them... allow these people to make their own decisions in life, as it is not our place to judge them.

The only time you should care where someone else's 'junk' is, is when you're sitting on their lap.

[dgibson]

Oh! Jinn

You just have to try, Rhubarb pie! It's just fabulous! :ban_dance01:

[dgibson]

"No other group has flaunted their spiritual, moral, & human degradation more than the so called “GAY” community, instead of learning from the consequences of the past, publicly parade ”pride” of their sinful course before God and all to see."

I agree, that homosexuailty doesn't need parades of pride in the streets, but I also think the imbalance of judgements/discriminations/biased treatement being cast by religions people from overly focused preachers, need to be counter balanced. If you attend churches today, thats all it seems they have to talk about, is those gay people that need saving, or throwing away. Tithing being the second to it in discussion. It's no wonder they parade, flaunt, and are so vocal about the injustices they endure. They get negatives about them spewing from almost all the pulpits across the world. It should be given, but in a balance along with all the other ill's of society. Unforunately, a lot of the other ill's would cut deep into the pocket book of the church, so they are stuck on just a few that they can rant and rave about. You see, many of the chruches big donators, are doing badthings they ask for forgiveness from these pastors, and if these pastors really talked about these ones and their ill's the same as they rant and rave about the homosexuals, why they believe they would be doing a disservice to the churches funds that help so many people, and build bigger family centers etc. It's a crooked system and the gays are the last on the chain of events in this system.

[shikinah]

quick question.

Why do any of you care what goes on behind the doors of other people?

Its difficult enough keeping myself inline without the added stress of having to judge other people for what they may or may not be doing in the privacy of their own home.

Its not like these people don't know what the bible says or what 'fundamentalist' Christians think of them... allow these people to make their own decisions in life, as it is not our place to judge them.

The only time you should care where someone else's 'junk' is, is when you're sitting on their lap.[/b]

Trust me sketch i dont want to be involved in their lives, you want to ask them that question. When im out minding my own business they come up to where i am and ask things like, why have you had a boob job, and pic on you for nothing, what you dont realise is some of them are jealous of women and really bitchy, i have worked in a beauty clinic and hair dressers with three of them, and they always want to tell you their intimate details. Once we were having a discussion relating to the bible, in a quiet part of a pub which has a lounge area, and some where on the next table and told us to change our subject. They are becomming very annoying, we are how god created us to be, we shouldnt have to conform to their way of thinking, they need to read the bible, and learn what god requires from them.

[shikinah]

"No other group has flaunted their spiritual, moral, & human degradation more than the so called "GAY" community, instead of learning from the consequences of the past, publicly parade "pride" of their sinful course before God and all to see."

I agree, that homosexuailty doesn't need parades of pride in the streets, but I also think the imbalance of judgements/discriminations/biased treatement being cast by religions people from overly focused preachers, need to be counter balanced. If you attend churches today, thats all it seems they have to talk about, is those gay people that need saving, or throwing away. Tithing being the second to it in discussion. It's no wonder they parade, flaunt, and are so vocal about the injustices they endure. They get negatives about them spewing from almost all the pulpits across the world. It should be given, but in a balance along with all the other ill's of society. Unforunately, a lot of the other ill's would cut deep into the pocket book of the church, so they are stuck on just a few that they can rant and rave about. You see, many of the chruches big donators, are doing badthings they ask for forgiveness from these pastors, and if these pastors really talked about these ones and their ill's the same as they rant and rave about the homosexuals, why they believe they would be doing a disservice to the churches funds that help so many people, and build bigger family centers etc. It's a crooked system and the gays are the last on the chain of events in this system.[/b]

You see i see it like this, would we have special days for beastiality, would we have special carnivals and months for paedophiles? NO..
Homosexuality is a perversion so are the rest of these things. Like the rest they can also be seen as illnesses, but we dont see awareness for paedophiles and beasties like we do for cancer etc.
We need to put it in the catagory where it belongs, we have all become too tolerant, this is why it has got out of hand, they are not victims of racism. Yes i feel for the ones which struggle within their skin, but have pride and respect for who they are, but these are very few. I have been in a gay club many years ago, and trust me it is like soddom and gomorrah enough to turn your stomach. The lust they have for each other is to the level of demonic sensual pleasure which borders on it being their god. I know a straight witness girl who use to frequent these places she loved the vibe and music, their swagger and style. She loved gay men, and got totally involved in the scene taking drugs etc till she became demon posessed. God doesnt make laws for no reason, "friends with the world is enmity with god".
As it was in the beginning so it shall be in the end (paradise) Adam and Eve not Bobby and Steve.

[Jinnvisible]

Oh! Jinn
You just have to try, Rhubarb pie! It's just fabulous! :ban_dance01:[/b]

You are like a Lion you smell a weakness and you are there, with a pie.

[Jinnvisible]

We need to put it in the catagory where it belongs, we have all become too tolerant, this is why it has got out of hand, they are not victims of racism.[/b]

It was like waking up in a shark infested rhubarb patch let me tell you. All pink and green and eyes and teeth.

[shikinah]

I was'nt putting it in the same catagory as racism, thats why i stated the fact. When i say tolorate, im talking about the obsanities and the rudeness i have had to endure. If me and a few friends have had a nice spiritual talk and feel up-built i promise you it has always been one of these guys which have gone out of there way to cause trouble, perhaps they fancy the brother they often see me with, so pick on me instead.
But at the end of the day, soddom and gomorrah was destroyed because of a sexual act which even married men and women are forbidden to do, old man and young boy, even after being made blind was still groping around in the dark, that says it all.

[dgibson]

"But at the end of the day, soddom and gomorrah was destroyed because of a sexual act which even married men and women are forbidden to do, old man and young boy, even after being made blind was still groping around in the dark, that says it all."


Why do you not realize, that they were wanting to "RAPE" innocent men who had come to the city? The blindness was distributed to them to keep them form finding the front door of lot's house. Where does it state that evenj though they were blind they still groping around in the dark for other men? Maybe I missed something? Maybe they were looking for some Rhubarb pie? I think if I was struck with sudden blindness, I would be getting the heck out of there, via a good friends arm.

[Jinnvisible]

I was'nt putting it in the same catagory as racism, thats why i stated the fact.[/b]

Yes, that is true. Yet it seems that some of the first century Christians were celebate homos. So whilst soddom was not redeemed, people sometimes can be which is something more than what happened in Soddom and Gomorrah.

[Jinnvisible]

Why do you not realize, that they were wanting to "RAPE" innocent men who had come to the city? The blindness was distributed to them to keep them form finding the front door of lot's house. Where does it state that evenj though they were blind they still groping around in the dark for other men? Maybe I missed something? Maybe they were looking for some Rhubarb pie? I think if I was struck with sudden blindness, I would be getting the heck out of there, via a good friends arm.[/b]

Soddom was obviously a place pretty much devoid of justice due to its depravity.

Saul of Tarsus was struck blind during his persecution of Christians. Thankfully for him it was only temporary allowing him an oppurtunity to change his behaviour.

[shikinah]

"But at the end of the day, soddom and gomorrah was destroyed because of a sexual act which even married men and women are forbidden to do, old man and young boy, even after being made blind was still groping around in the dark, that says it all."


Why do you not realize, that they were wanting to "RAPE" innocent men who had come to the city? The blindness was distributed to them to keep them form finding the front door of lot's house. Where does it state that evenj though they were blind they still groping around in the dark for other men? Maybe I missed something? Maybe they were looking for some Rhubarb pie? I think if I was struck with sudden blindness, I would be getting the heck out of there, via a good friends arm.[/b]
Genesis19
At this they said: “Stand back there!” And they added: “This lone man came here to reside as an alien and yet he would actually play the judge. Now we are going to do worse to you than to them.” And they came pressing heavily in on the man, on Lot, and were getting near to break in the door. 10 (http://) So the men thrust out their hands and brought Lot in to them, into the house, and they shut the door. 11 (http://) But they struck with blindness the men who were at the entrance of the house, from the least to the greatest, so that they were wearing themselves out trying to find the entrance.

Perhaps it was the way i read verse 11, i gathered that the blind men who were the least which meant toward the back, wore themselves out trying to get to the entrance where the angels where.
I personally wouldnt be holding anyones arm in the dark i'd be begging for mercy :rofl:

[Jinnvisible]

When i say tolorate, im talking about the obsanities and the rudeness i have had to endure. If me and a few friends have had a nice spiritual talk and feel up-built i promise you it has always been one of these guys which have gone out of there way to cause trouble, perhaps they fancy the brother they often see me with, so pick on me instead.[/b]

It may be because you are a quite an assertive person. I could imagine that some efffeminate type men might not like that at all. It might cause them to have a Gay fit.

I`m quite assertive and previously I`ve upset a couple of feminazi lesbian types. Although its not a hobby or anything.

[shikinah]

<div class='quotemain'>When i say tolorate, im talking about the obsanities and the rudeness i have had to endure. If me and a few friends have had a nice spiritual talk and feel up-built i promise you it has always been one of these guys which have gone out of there way to cause trouble, perhaps they fancy the brother they often see me with, so pick on me instead.[/b]

It may be because you are a quite an assertive person. I could imagine that some efffeminate type men might not like that at all. It might cause them to have a Gay fit.

I`m quite assertive and previously I`ve upset a couple of feminazi lesbian types. Although its not a hobby or anything.
[/b][/quote]


Really Jinn,
I dont see myself as assertive at all :icon_rolleyes:
well not that im aware of. But now i know i&#39;d better put it to use on the kids :y:
Gay fit, they definately like to work out, have you seen the one on east enders lol.

[dgibson]

<div class='quotemain'>Why do you not realize, that they were wanting to "RAPE" innocent men who had come to the city? The blindness was distributed to them to keep them form finding the front door of lot&#39;s house. Where does it state that evenj though they were blind they still groping around in the dark for other men? Maybe I missed something? Maybe they were looking for some Rhubarb pie? I think if I was struck with sudden blindness, I would be getting the heck out of there, via a good friends arm.[/b]

Soddom was obviously a place pretty much devoid of justice due to its depravity.

Saul of Tarsus was struck blind during his persecution of Christians. Thankfully for him it was only temporary allowing him an oppurtunity to change his behaviour.

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Yes Jinn, I think blindness will probably be used to get a lot of people to begin listening and behaving properly. Before, after the end, and maybe during the resurrection.

As far as the state of sodom at the time, we are all most there now. Just waiting for the spark to start the fire.

[Jinnvisible]

they definately like to work out, have you seen the one on east enders lol.[/b]

I haven`t seen that.

[imjustaskin]

Quote from the Aug 1 WT regarding identifying true religion:

Does this religion teach that sexual immorality either between a man and a woman or between a couple of the same sex is a sin?

Point: Sexual immorality is no more "wrong" for homosexuals than it is for heterosexuals. Both are a sin in God&#39;s eyes.

For YEARS television and society have been promoting sex outside of marraige, living together, etc, as normal behavior. No one seems to get in an uproar about that. We get in an uproar because homosexuality offends our PERSONAL sensibilities more than heterosexual fornication. But in Jehovah&#39;s eyes, a sin is a sin.