Eyes & Ears
07-19-2009, 07:18 PM
I saw the QFR this morning while we were finishing up the study article for today's lesson.
I had not noticed this before. I'm sharing it for those who would like to comment or just read it.
*Take note of 4th paragraph speaking about the resurrected anointed.
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When was Satan cast out of heaven? - Rev 12:1-9
May 15, 2009 - QFR (out of today's study WT, Page 18)
Although the book of Revelation does not give the precise time of Satan's ousting, it does mention a series of events that can help us to estimate when he was cast out of heaven. First among the events is the birth of the Messianic Kingdom. Subsquent to that, "war broke out in heaven," which led to Satan's defeat and his finally being cast out of heaven.
The Scriptures clearly mark 1914 as the year when "the appointed times of the nations" ended and the Kingdom was established. (See pages 215-218 of the book What Does the Bible Really Teach?) LU 21:24 How soon after that did the war in heaven break out, resulting in Satan's ousting?"
The dragon [Satan] kept standing before the woman who was about to give birth," states Revelation 12:4, "that, when she did give birth, it might devour her child." This shows that Satan wanted to dispose of the newborn Kingdom quickly, at the moment of its birth if at all possible. Though Jehovah's intervention prevented Satan from realizing his wicked intention, Satan was determined and relentless in his effort to do harm to the newly established Kingdom. It stands to reason, therefore, that "Michael and his angels" would waste no time in taking action to remove "the dragon and its angels" from the heavenly scene so that no harm could come to the Kingdom. This suggests that the defeat and ousting of Satan took place soon after the Kingdom's birth in 1914.
*Another factor to consider is the resurrection of anointed Christians, which - as Scriptural evidence indicates - began soon after the establishment of the Kingdom :icon_eek: :boom01: :wacko: :blink: see WT 1/1/2007, pages 27-28) Rev 20:6. Since none of Christ's anointed brothers are spoken of as accompanying Jesus in the battle with the dragon and its angels, the war in heaven and the ousting of Satan and his demons would have been completed by the time the resurrection of Christ's brothers got under way.
So, then, the Bible does not reveal the exact time when Satan and his demons were expelled from heaven. NEVERTHELESS, :icon_rolleyes: it is evident that this event closely followed the enthronement of Jesus Christ in heaven in 1914.
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I just wanted to add these scriptures that came to my mind.
2 Timothy 2:18
These very men have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred and they are subverting the faith of some.
1 Thess 4:13-17
Moreover, brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant concerning those who are falling asleep in death; that you may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope.
For if our faith is that Jesus died and rose again, so, too, those who have fallen asleep in death through Jesus God will bring with him.
For this is what we tell you by Jehovah's word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep in death;
because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an arch-angel's voice and with God's trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.
Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with the Lord.
OKEY DOKEY enjoy the rest of your afternoon, I am on my way to be a little piglet at a cookout.
E & E
I had not noticed this before. I'm sharing it for those who would like to comment or just read it.
*Take note of 4th paragraph speaking about the resurrected anointed.
Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania
All Rights Reserved
When was Satan cast out of heaven? - Rev 12:1-9
May 15, 2009 - QFR (out of today's study WT, Page 18)
Although the book of Revelation does not give the precise time of Satan's ousting, it does mention a series of events that can help us to estimate when he was cast out of heaven. First among the events is the birth of the Messianic Kingdom. Subsquent to that, "war broke out in heaven," which led to Satan's defeat and his finally being cast out of heaven.
The Scriptures clearly mark 1914 as the year when "the appointed times of the nations" ended and the Kingdom was established. (See pages 215-218 of the book What Does the Bible Really Teach?) LU 21:24 How soon after that did the war in heaven break out, resulting in Satan's ousting?"
The dragon [Satan] kept standing before the woman who was about to give birth," states Revelation 12:4, "that, when she did give birth, it might devour her child." This shows that Satan wanted to dispose of the newborn Kingdom quickly, at the moment of its birth if at all possible. Though Jehovah's intervention prevented Satan from realizing his wicked intention, Satan was determined and relentless in his effort to do harm to the newly established Kingdom. It stands to reason, therefore, that "Michael and his angels" would waste no time in taking action to remove "the dragon and its angels" from the heavenly scene so that no harm could come to the Kingdom. This suggests that the defeat and ousting of Satan took place soon after the Kingdom's birth in 1914.
*Another factor to consider is the resurrection of anointed Christians, which - as Scriptural evidence indicates - began soon after the establishment of the Kingdom :icon_eek: :boom01: :wacko: :blink: see WT 1/1/2007, pages 27-28) Rev 20:6. Since none of Christ's anointed brothers are spoken of as accompanying Jesus in the battle with the dragon and its angels, the war in heaven and the ousting of Satan and his demons would have been completed by the time the resurrection of Christ's brothers got under way.
So, then, the Bible does not reveal the exact time when Satan and his demons were expelled from heaven. NEVERTHELESS, :icon_rolleyes: it is evident that this event closely followed the enthronement of Jesus Christ in heaven in 1914.
************************************************** *****************
I just wanted to add these scriptures that came to my mind.
2 Timothy 2:18
These very men have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred and they are subverting the faith of some.
1 Thess 4:13-17
Moreover, brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant concerning those who are falling asleep in death; that you may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope.
For if our faith is that Jesus died and rose again, so, too, those who have fallen asleep in death through Jesus God will bring with him.
For this is what we tell you by Jehovah's word, that we the living who survive to the presence of the Lord shall in no way precede those who have fallen asleep in death;
because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an arch-angel's voice and with God's trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first.
Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with the Lord.
OKEY DOKEY enjoy the rest of your afternoon, I am on my way to be a little piglet at a cookout.
E & E