Why Are We Here?

[SlaveForJah]

On this discussion board, that is. What is our collective purpose in associating together here? Is the purpose of this discussion board to discuss spiritual matters and biblical topics, or is it a place to be used as a clearinghouse and sounding-board for conspiracy theories and esoteric knowledge?

Do we even have a collective purpose? Or is the motto laissez faire ? What is the raison d'etre for this forum?

Your thoughts would be very much appreciated.


Agape

SlaveForJah

[shikinah]

I guess my topics could come across quite deep, but they are valid questions which i havnt had answered while in the truth. We cant have light with out dark, good without bad, because that's just how it is right now. We are living in the time of the end and there are a lot of questions or events which i think are important and unfolding. But religion and its roots never had a bright start from Eden, satan made his presence known from back then, and is the ruler of this world. The originator of our truth JW'S was the first who taught me about pyramidology, pladies star system etc. I knew nothing of esoteric knowledge until i found the truth, and sad to say its woven within every aspect of our lives, from within our very DNA, until the day Jesus Christ can eradicate this sin, it will always be part of humanity as we know it.
I'm glad i know what i know and as deep as i know it, so that i can warn others of the hidden dangers and the lie which we've been fed since the day we were born.

Shikinah

[Utuna]

On this discussion board, that is. What is our collective purpose in associating together here? Is the purpose of this discussion board to discuss spiritual matters and biblical topics, or is it a place to be used as a clearinghouse and sounding-board for conspiracy theories and esoteric knowledge?

Do we even have a collective purpose? Or is the motto laissez faire ? What is the raison d'etre for this forum?

Your thoughts would be very much appreciated.


Agape

SlaveForJah
Dear SFJ,

We must acknowledge that that kind of subjects are much less broached nowadays on this DB than it was in the past. Hopefully, most of the posts are now based on the Bible.

As for the conspiracy theories and esoteric knowledge, I think that it is really an american "hobby-horse" or "pet subject". All those things were unknown to me before I came across this DB. Now I understand better why numerous US movies and series broach that subject.

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"Le sectarisme des jugements pauvres lui tenait quelquefois lieu de volonté" - Hervé Bazin
"J'ai pétri de la boue et j'en ai fait de l'or" - Charles Baudelaire
"S'il m'a été donné de voir un peu plus loin que les autres, c'est que je me tenais sur les épaules de géants" - Isaac Newton

[truthseeker]

I'm ready to draw my sword if you are:
I have been thinking about this question also:
If Jehovah backs any direction collectively we might go it will have success.

To my thinking we are close to a tipping point; and we should start making decisive decisions. Put the groin on the chopping block so to speak:(

Forget all the trieste conspiracy theories; Just know we are aware of the grandest conspiracy ever Satan is control of every thing at this time even infiltrating the actual body of Jesus attendants thats the real conspiracy!

Now what are we going to do about it, just sit and watch?

I'm open to suggestions.

Truthseeker

[TheMdC]

Do we even have a collective purpose?
SlaveForJah

I would say at this point the answer is clearly no. The individual purposes are so varied that it is nearly impossible to have a single collective purpose.

That could change in the near future, however.

[Eyes & Ears]

I'm ready to draw my sword if you are:
I have been thinking about this question also:
If Jehovah backs any direction collectively we might go it will have success.

To my thinking we are close to a tipping point; and we should start making decisive decisions. Put the groin on the chopping block so to speak:(

Forget all the trieste conspiracy theories; Just know we are aware of the grandest conspiracy ever Satan is control of every thing at this time even infiltrating the actual body of Jesus attendants thats the real conspiracy!

Now what are we going to do about it, just sit and watch?

I'm open to suggestions.

Truthseeker


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This question has been on my lil peabrain also, TS and SFJ. I know I cannot sit on the fence forever. I've jumped 3 or 4 times in the past. However it was because I knew someting was not all right in paradise, but I did not have the understanding that I now have.

This time when I jump, I want to make sure it is Jehovah telling me to jump so I have his backing. I don't want to jump, fall down flat on my face and not able to get back up.


In other words, I'm trying hard to MAKE SURE, I undertand what I am doing, and that I am truly listening to my heavenly father and no one else. Specially my emotions and what I think I see and hear and how I understand scriptures.

I cannot afford to make anymore major spiritual mistakes.

Suggestions, not really. I'm just holding on patiently a little while longer.

Something is happening and I know we all can sense that.
(Let me back up here, and say that it is in my opinion I feel we can sense something.)

No matter what, I will WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT ON
Jehovah and I feel he will let us know when it is that we each personally should do what he wants us to do. It may be now, tomorrow or in the very near future, but I feel we will know, just the same way as those who are TO RECEIVE A HEAVENLY REWARD. THEY KNOW WITHOUT QUESTION AND A SECOND THOUGHT WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.


I know I want to live on earth, so I feel that Jehovah will let me know what I am to do either inside the cong, or outside or both, whatever.............


Just my little thoughts.






PSALMS 37: 5


Roll upon Jehovah your way and RELY upon him and he himslef will act.

PSALMS 37:7 (The first few words)

Keep silent before Jehovah AND WAIT LONGINGLY FOR HIM.......................................


PSALMS 37:39


And the salvation of the righteous ones is from Jehovah, He is their fortress in the time of distress.


PSALMS 39:40 (The first few words)


And Jehovah will help them and provide them with escape
(Last Part) Because they have taken refuge in him.




E & E

[truthseeker]

I'm ready to draw my sword if you are:
I have been thinking about this question also:
If Jehovah backs any direction collectively we might go it will have success.

To my thinking we are close to a tipping point; and we should start making decisive decisions. Put the groin on the chopping block so to speak:(

Forget all the meaningless conspiracy theories; Just know we are aware of the grandest conspiracy ever Satan is control of every thing at this time even infiltrating the actual body of Jesus attendants thats the real conspiracy!

Now what are we going to do about it, just sit and watch?

I'm open to suggestions.

Truthseeker

I was trying to spell a different word and it was wrong!

[truthseeker]

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This question has been on my lil peabrain also, TS and SFJ. I know I cannot sit on the fence forever. I've jumped 3 or 4 times in the past. However it was because I knew someting was not all right in paradise, but I did not have the understanding that I now have.

This time when I jump, I want to make sure it is Jehovah telling me to jump so I have his backing. I don't want to jump, fall down flat on my face and not able to get back up.


In other words, I'm trying hard to MAKE SURE, I undertand what I am doing, and that I am truly listening to my heavenly father and no one else. Specially my emotions and what I think I see and hear and how I understand scriptures.

I cannot afford to make anymore major spiritual mistakes.

Suggestions, not really. I'm just holding on patiently a little while longer.

Something is happening and I know we all can sense that.
(Let me back up here, and say that it is in my opinion I feel we can sense something.)

No matter what, I will WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT ON
Jehovah and I feel he will let us know when it is that we each personally should do what he wants us to do. It may be now, tomorrow or in the very near future, but I feel we will know, just the same way as those who are TO RECEIVE A HEAVENLY REWARD. THEY KNOW WITHOUT QUESTION AND A SECOND THOUGHT WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.


I know I want to live on earth, so I feel that Jehovah will let me know what I am to do either inside the cong, or outside or both, whatever.............


Just my little thoughts.






PSALMS 37: 5


Roll upon Jehovah your way and RELY upon him and he himslef will act.

PSALMS 37:7 (The first few words)

Keep silent before Jehovah AND WAIT LONGINGLY FOR HIM.......................................


PSALMS 37:39


And the salvation of the righteous ones is from Jehovah, He is their fortress in the time of distress.


PSALMS 39:40 (The first few words)


And Jehovah will help them and provide them with escape
(Last Part) Because they have taken refuge in him.




E & E

Thanks E&E
Your statement is measured and reasonable:
I to would not want do any thing that would be going against Jehovah; I love him very much!

Maybe in answer to SwordofJah this data base could be a place where we as students of God word we strike against each other and are metal is strengthened and our faith is tempered for future events.

I know there is a scripture that says something to that effect for the life of me I couldn't find it.

Love truthseeker

[truthseeker]

I would add that since being on this database for just over a year. My knowledge and learning abilities have grown significantly, and also my faith has never been stronger. My prayers have become very personal with Jehovah.
I thought I should add this fact :icon_redface::D

Personally this site has has maybe (Jehovah willing) saved my life and by extension possibly others.:)

Sincerely Truthseeker

[Eyes & Ears]

I'm speaking from my little ole heart now.:D

I believe deeply that Jehovah uses others to help us. I believe that he used/uses ones at Bethel to help us, as well as those we can meet informally in our day to day activities and I also believe he uses folks on this board as well.

I also have learned much from the people on this board and I thank Jehovah for them. I thank Jehovah that he directed me to keep digging and digging and digging until I got answers to what I need to help me remain firm at this time and hopefully in the future as well.

Every single day I see Jehovah working in my life and the lives of others. From tiny things like tripping on the cellar steps and almost falling, but you catch that railing just in time, the car that almost hit you on the right side, but something stopped it in the nik of time, you left that pan on the stove and you put your coat on to go to the store and something said use the backdoor, as you go to the backdoor you pass the stove and that pan is about to explode, and what about that scripture that you finally understand and you have read it 6 other times and all of a sudden BAM!!!!!!!, UNDERSTANDING.

Coincidence, could be, maybe, maybe not;).

Of course I see Jehovah's hand/ Holy Spirit helping me to grow up spiritually as I keep digging.

My prayers as well are much deeper and more personal also TS.

I now after all these years really understand what a RELATIONSHIP WITH JEHOVAH REALLY MEANS AND IS. It is something precious and beautiful and no one absolutely no one can take that away from you unless you let them. It is the most powerful and meaningful relationship ever. Once you get that understanding it is deep and YOU WILL NOT ALLOW ANYTHING TO MESS WITH OR INTERFERE WITH YOUR RELATIONSHIP YOU WORKED SO HARD TO HAVE WITH YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER. NOTHING. PERIOD!!!

You start to really understand the love Jehovah and his son have for mankind and it hits you right in the center of your heart and will bring you to your knees in thankful and loving tears. It's powerful.

So I guess I come to this site for that little extra gravy to put on my meat. I get my main course/meal from Jehovah's Word, he helps me understand by me going to him in prayer and asking him for his Holy Spirit and by my digging and thinking and spending quiet time with Jehovah and myself. I come here to learn more, help get some things straightened out in my head by reading all the expressions and exchanging scriptures, thoughts reasonings all those good things. It is good to talk to others with what you have learned/are learning and if you have questions. All that contributes to healthy growth. We cannot do this at the KH or inside right now, So I come here. (Romans 1:12 ......an interchange of encouragement among you, by each one through the other's faith, both YOURS AND MINE.


We laugh, we cry, we respecfully have heated discussions but I pray it is all done in love. I pray no one here is trying to flex their so called "Spiritual Muscles" . We all are after the same thing. A stronger relationship with Jehovah, to help others know Jehovah, to see how Jehovah's purpose regarding his right to rule unfolds; and then to be beneficiaries of his promises.

I'm here to upbuild and be built up. I hope I am doing that and if not I will work harder to do that in the future.

I am thankful for you all and pray that Jehovah continues to bless us as we get deeper and deeper into the times that will be so DIFFICULT UNLESS THE DAYS WERE CUT SHORT NO FLESH WILL BE SAVED.

Those of you here who are of the heavenly class/Jehovah's household, and those who are scattered I appreciate that you have a a great deal to do and accomplish, but Jehovah promises to hold you up if you remain faithful to HIM. (Jehovah promises to hold all of us up as we all take part in the work that must be done before Jehovah intervenes. The times are to be troubling indeed and you all are in my prayers. You have contributed much and I am so thankful you are here trying hard to give us the proper food in due season. May Jehovah bless you all and your families in these challenging times and the times to come.


May we all continue to remain focused on the issues that we know are so important, and the wonderful blessings we will receive if we are found faithful, obedient and loyal to our Father Jehovah as we STAND FAST, HOLD N ON TIGHT TO JEHOVAH WITH ALL THE SPIRITUAL STRENGTH THAT JEHOVAH HAS GIVEN US.

Sisterly love to you all, also this was a good question SFJ, Thank you.


E & E


FAMILIAR SCRIPTURE TO ALL

Mark 13:32

"Concerning that day or the hour NOBODY KNOWS, neither the angels in heaven nor the son, but the father."

Mark 13:33

KEEP LOOKING, KEEP AWAKE, FOR YOU DO NOT KNOW WHEN THE APPOINTED TIME IS.


Mark 13:37

But what I say to you I say to all,

KEEP ON THE WATCH.

[Desert Blossom]

On this discussion board, that is. What is our collective purpose in associating together here?

I think everyone has a different reason for joining this forum and posting their opinions and/or questions.

Collectively, I think the majority of members are seeking insight on the scriptures so that we can worship in spirit and truth. I think, for the most part, that people are sincere in their questions and truly want to understand things from Jehovah's point of view.



Is the purpose of this discussion board to discuss spiritual matters and biblical topics, or is it a place to be used as a clearinghouse and sounding-board for conspiracy theories and esoteric knowledge?

Seems to me that the main purpose for this board is to provide a place for JW's, active or inactive, to discuss things they can't discuss inside the congregation. This forum gives us freedom of expression. We all have different things that concern us. Some may come here looking for emotional support because of the many hurts they've experienced in the congregation. Some may come here looking for a better understanding of the scriptures and how they apply to us today. Some come here and bring praise and glory to Jehovah and to help us really exercise faith in Jesus.

How many of us have had our faith resurrected by coming to this board? How many of us have had our relationship with Jehovah and Jesus become more real? How many of us have learned what it means to worship in spirit and truth? One thing seems to be evident, that we're all on different legs of the journey. Issues that one person has overcome, others are still struggling with.



Do we even have a collective purpose? Or is the motto laissez faire ? What is the raison d'etre for this forum?

Your thoughts would be very much appreciated.


Agape

SlaveForJah

I believe the collective purpose is to help us all figure out what it means to worship in spirit and truth, but until Jehovah pours out his spirit on the anointed ones, as promised in Joel and Acts, we're going to have limited success.

(Acts 2:17-21) . . .‘“And in the last days,” God says, “I shall pour out some of my spirit upon every sort of flesh, and YOUR sons and YOUR daughters will prophesy and YOUR young men will see visions and YOUR old men will dream dreams; 18 and even upon my men slaves and upon my women slaves I will pour out some of my spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. 19 And I will give portents in heaven above and signs on earth below, blood and fire and smoke mist; 20 the sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and illustrious day of Jehovah arrives. 21 And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”’

I believe Jesus is using this gathering of like-minded Christians to prepare us for what lies ahead. Even if someone with an opposing agenda posts on this forum that just gives us an opportunity to make a defense and help educate others, such as the hundreds of people who are "guests" who read the forum every month.

Is everything posted on this board beneficial and upbuilding? No. But neither is all the food being served at the kingdom halls either. I think it is inevitable that this board would become a reflection of where we came from, since the wheat and the weeds go hand in hand, er, I mean root in root, until the time of the harvest. But that just gives us opportunity to sharpen our minds in regards to the scriptures, in order to make sure of everything.

(Proverbs 27:17) . . .By iron, iron itself is sharpened. So one man sharpens the face of another.

I can come here on a daily basis to have fellowship with like-minded believers, and that is something I really appreciate. So, if there is a reason for this board to be, I would think it's to provide a place for us to have a sort of virtual congregation that is governed by love, instead of rules and regulations.

[shikinah]

Desert Blossom, if only i could express myself as good as you. You couldn't have said it better. We are truly a refection of what has molded us, and if 29 years of knowing the truth and what i have experienced has me posting what i do, what can i say. There are things I'd love to discuss about my experiences, but wouldn't put that upon anyone, and still have never had a clear answer to this day. Perhaps it comes through posts hoping for an indirect answer but realise now, Jehovah will provide it when he is ready.
I feel there will be a very important purpose for this board in due time, when prophesy unfolds even more and we are then all on the same page. One day we wont have this facility, so i guess we had better make the most of it while we still have time.:)

Shikinah

[FutureMan]

On this discussion board, that is. What is our collective purpose in associating together here? Is the purpose of this discussion board to discuss spiritual matters and biblical topics, or is it a place to be used as a clearinghouse and sounding-board for conspiracy theories and esoteric knowledge?

Do we even have a collective purpose? Or is the motto laissez faire ? What is the raison d'etre for this forum?

Your thoughts would be very much appreciated.


Agape

SlaveForJah

Hi SlaveForJah, I don't know about any collective purpose as yet, but I do know what my own purpose is and that is to learn and disseminate Bible truths.

For a long time now the question has been asked in the organization by it's various members, "are you in the truth?" or it is said, that person is no longer in the "truth" or that person is not doing so good in the truth.

To me truth is my main concern because ultimately knowing what is truth and what is not, can be the difference between life and death.

Well that is the million dollar question folks, "WHAT IS THE TRUTH?"

[billy2]

I come here because i can freely and respectfully discuss biblical subjects without fear of being ostraziced - especially when i have observed and experienced some serious problems within the wt org - sometimes its just knowing others are observing and experienceing similar problems helps me not feel so alone and makes me feel sane

honesty and freedom of thought are so vital for mental, emotional and spiritual health

if one feels threatened or uncomfortable by a certain subject being discussed then it can be passed over - this db is a place where all thoughts can be captured and analyzed as to their value

thank you everyone for your thoughts and discussions - they have been faith strengthening and stimulating and also inspiring :)

[Eyes & Ears]

I have appreciated and learned from the expressions so far. Desert Bloom your post was wonderful thank you.

I'm off to the meeting. Everyone enjoy the day we were blessed with.

E & E

[Molly]

Hi All-

In some way or other the members of this forum have discovered that there are problem with the Society that can not simply be dismissed. Some learned of Robert's alternative view of prophesy. Some learned about the NGO problem and cannot accept the feeble excuse the WTS has provided. For others it was the pedophile issue. Or, how the FDS has made themselves into a god. In the end, we have come to the conclusion that there needs to be some readjustment in thinking on all of the above issues, but we know that it won't happen at the Hall. So, the WTS provides us with many truths from the Bible wrapped in many lies. What they provide is half-truth because there is no allowance for the brothers to accept some and reject the rest. I believe that most here (I know I do) want the whole truth and nothing but the truth. True worshippers of God must worship with "spirit and truth." God is looking for suchlike ones to worship him. Would this be a requirement if it were not possible? I believe we are all searching for that (whole)truth.

Most of us would not be here at all if we could discuss our questions openly at the KH, but we can't, so we are fortunate to have a haven here to express ourselves with candor and explore ideas (Our thanks to Robert!). It's like using each others knowledge and background on the scriptures to brainstorm on subjects and hopefully remove misguided concepts in favor of scripturally correct truths for a foundation built on the bedrock and not the sand. Jws do not realize how shakey their foundation really is.

Many of those at the Hall do not want to know. They don't want to disturb whatever peace they have in the congregation. It is sufficient for them. Those here want answers and a place to be welcomed because they would be ostracized for thinking outside the box at the Hall if anyone knew. Here ideas are welcomed for consideration. Not all are accepted, but every once in a while we get an "Aha!" moment and new understanding is reached. I am grateful to this forum for the knowledge and insight that many of you have brought to my attention. I have learned so much from the DB. That's why I am here.
Molly

[Desert Blossom]

I believe that most here (I know I do) want the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Molly

Amen to that sister! It will be a beautiful thing when truth becomes abundant on the earth.


(Daniel 12:4) . . .“And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant.”

[Nightflyer]

Why am I here? Hmm... well, I agree 90% with the Jws but that is not enough for them. Its all so black and white there, you have to accept the whole package or you are an apostate or at least a trouble-maker. And you just cant discuss biblical things freely in the congregation. Here it isn't a problem. :) I just wish we had more people here.

[FGM]

If the WTS was really guided by the faithful and discreet slave as they say they are then no one would be here. It is obvious that what has been dished out over the past years can no longer stand up to the scrutiny that access to the Internet provides us with now. I, like many were kept in the dark about many things. NGO... etc. I don't have to name them. When I started to get wind of the fact that not everything was as rosy cosy as I was told I felt really embittered. It was like I had been kept in a capsule and fed just exactly what the GB wanted me to be fed. Why, I asked myself was none of this information disseminated to all the Brothers and why, when I tried to ask about these matters, I was given the "Hard Stare". I admit that up until this particular time ( about 3 years ago) I was happy to swallow everything that was thrown at me through the WT, including the Generation changes, despite the fact that I could not follow the reasoning. Others just laughed it off and said to the effect that if it is in the WT it must be right....
I went from forum to forum, site to site, regarding JW's, but could not find one that seemed to help until I came across e-watchman writings which led to this forum.
DING...( Some flashing lights too) I could see that there were others like me who were prepared question ( quite rightly) the WT teachings where it seemed necessary to do so, but at the same time try to help rather than just criticise and condemn.
I hesitated to join at first but after reading many of the posts, a lot of which really helped me to get back some balance in my life, I felt in some small way I could contribute something.
Thanks to all on this forum who take time to contribute.
It surely is a place where we can say how we feel without being condemned.
I surely hope that some of what is being said here feeds back to the GB/WTS so they can see what food the B/S really need.

FGM

[truthseeker]

WOW
Do the sisters know how to express them selves or what!
All of the posts have been hart felt, such a thing of beauty.
Desert Blossom you found the scripture I was looking for:D
We may be small in number but mighty!
Remember Jesus temple building work started with just twelve.
truthseeker

[Nightflyer]

WOW
Do the sisters know how to express them selves or what!


Off-topic: how do you know who is a brother or a sister here?! :confused:

[truthseeker]

Off-topic: how do you know who is a brother or a sister here?! :confused:

You have a point!

I guess I guess I'm not sure how to respond to that.

I sort out people not necessarily by some things they say but by the body of there posts.I personally have been in trouble before for getting a little smart with a member on the board that had been around for a wile and some members accused me of (having the devil in me:mad:).

You know we call each other brother and sister in the organization. But Jehovah calls us sheep so!
I would be Ram Brian and Molly would be Ewe Molly

:D

[shikinah]

Hi All-

In some way or other the members of this forum have discovered that there are problem with the Society that can not simply be dismissed. Some learned of Robert's alternative view of prophesy. Some learned about the NGO problem and cannot accept the feeble excuse the WTS has provided. For others it was the pedophile issue. Or, how the FDS has made themselves into a god. In the end, we have come to the conclusion that there needs to be some readjustment in thinking on all of the above issues, but we know that it won't happen at the Hall. So, the WTS provides us with many truths from the Bible wrapped in many lies. What they provide is half-truth because there is no allowance for the brothers to accept some and reject the rest. I believe that most here (I know I do) want the whole truth and nothing but the truth. True worshippers of God must worship with "spirit and truth." God is looking for suchlike ones to worship him. Would this be a requirement if it were not possible? I believe we are all searching for that (whole)truth.

Most of us would not be here at all if we could discuss our questions openly at the KH, but we can't, so we are fortunate to have a haven here to express ourselves with candor and explore ideas (Our thanks to Robert!). It's like using each others knowledge and background on the scriptures to brainstorm on subjects and hopefully remove misguided concepts in favor of scripturally correct truths for a foundation built on the bedrock and not the sand. Jws do not realize how shakey their foundation really is.

Many of those at the Hall do not want to know. They don't want to disturb whatever peace they have in the congregation. It is sufficient for them. Those here want answers and a place to be welcomed because they would be ostracized for thinking outside the box at the Hall if anyone knew. Here ideas are welcomed for consideration. Not all are accepted, but every once in a while we get an "Aha!" moment and new understanding is reached. I am grateful to this forum for the knowledge and insight that many of you have brought to my attention. I have learned so much from the DB. That's why I am here.
Molly

Beautifully put Molly, its like having the shackles removed or the veil lifted:)

[shikinah]

One thing i have noticed with this board, is that the members are fearless and passionate for only the truth. That's what makes us different, we cant settle for half truths or turn a blind eye to what others see as only trivial. I guess that's why we are here. We may be few but that's great for now, as we still share a bit of uncertain interpretations at this moment in time, but as we mature to accurate knowledge i guess there will be many who will come and be helped, by then we'll be like the musketeers all for one and one for all and strong enough for what ever satan sends our way.

Jah Blessings
Shikinah

[arimatthewdavies]

if it wasent for forums like this i would have been disfellow shiped for saying what i feel.this is like alchoholilics anononamous, for jehovahs wittnesses,furthermore it does give people a chance to blow of steam, and make suggestions that may actually do some good, it lets others know their not alone, and you get to find out from others how crazy or stable you are![sociogram] i specialy like 1 person here who can councel with out makeing one feel like hes shouting bad dog!at you,

[Eyes & Ears]

One thing i have noticed with this board, is that the members are fearless and passionate for only the truth. That's what makes us different, we cant settle for half truths or turn a blind eye to what others see as only trivial. I guess that's why we are here. We may be few but that's great for now, as we still share a bit of uncertain interpretations at this moment in time, but as we mature to accurate knowledge i guess there will be many who will come and be helped, by then we'll be like the musketeers all for one and one for all and strong enough for what ever satan sends our way.

Jah Blessings
Shikinah


Enjoyed your expressions Liz.

Sisterly love

E & E

[panda]

I found this forum and after much prayer and ups and downs, confusion, I always came back, why? because I have the answers to the many questions about the WTS that needed to be answered. This site and perimeno has helped me so much.

I also feel a bond here with those that post, and I know that they would kindly and unjudgmentally answer question or queries I have and ALWAYS FROM GODS WORD.

What is your reason for being here SOJ, besides wanting to stand by the WTS.

[Juan23]

On this discussion board, that is. What is our collective purpose in associating together here? Is the purpose of this discussion board to discuss spiritual matters and biblical topics, or is it a place to be used as a clearinghouse and sounding-board for conspiracy theories and esoteric knowledge?

Do we even have a collective purpose? Or is the motto laissez faire ? What is the raison d'etre for this forum?

Your thoughts would be very much appreciated.


Agape

SlaveForJah

To grope for the truth.

[TheMdC]

Off-topic: how do you know who is a brother or a sister here?! :confused:

We certainly don't go by the WTS definitions of brothers and sisters here. Personally, I go by the principle Jesus laid out in Matthew chapter seven and judge people by the fruits they produce in their posts. On a message board, that is really all we have to go on.

[arimatthewdavies]

dear sir,you will find you can post with much freedom here we can dicuss how we feel,and gain some human input along with bible council.you can discuss the text or the publications,you can just chat, now what you cant do is advocate someone join with you in something wicked, opinions are well tolerated,jehovah is our god here however you may see someone here looking for a fight this is not the place to find it,we do behave peaceable here, as for me i use my real name and i will answer politlely your qustions. enjoy your stay.

[James]

Off-topic: how do you know who is a brother or a sister here?! :confused:



We certainly don't go by the WTS definitions of brothers and sisters here. Personally, I go by the principle Jesus laid out in Matthew chapter seven and judge people by the fruits they produce in their posts. On a message board, that is really all we have to go on.


I thought he/she was referring to gender????? Maybe I'm wrong.

[Nightflyer]

I thought he/she was referring to gender????? Maybe I'm wrong.

Yep thats correct. I'm a he, btw. ^_^

[TheMdC]

D'oh!
My bad.
:blush:

I'm a "he" too, btw.

[arimatthewdavies]

i would like to comment on how do we know whos a brother or a sister here,
myself i dont but i treat everyone like they are,or one who will become part of jehovahs familey,i also have disernment to know when i should keep out of a ongoing post or let someone else handle the situation beyond me .i have learned to just ask jesus when im a doubt hope ive been of help