Robert Haters Alert

[shikinah]

Hi Robert dont know if you have seen this video, but some hater/fool has sent me a remixed music version of one of your videos, thought its best you see it so you can explain on your Youtube Channel its not your doing..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bwJBlU5KaE

It could be the person who sent it to me, that re-mixed it, he used to be a JW has commented on my youtube. Iv'e noticed satans been working very hard lately in trying to mess up the on-line witnessing.


Shikinah

[James]

Hi Robert dont know if you have seen this video, but some hater/fool has sent me a remixed music version of one of your videos, thought its best you see it so you can explain on your Youtube Channel its not your doing..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bwJBlU5KaE

It could be the person who sent it to me, that re-mixed it, he used to be a JW has commented on my youtube. Iv'e noticed satans been working very hard lately in trying to mess up the on-line witnessing.


Shikinah

LOL, his pseudonym says it all- verysimpleperson. Pity he couldn't make an intelligent response video stating his views. tsk, tsk, a very simple-minded person.

agape,
James

[Juan23]

Seems like a child may have done this.

[shikinah]

Im sure its someone who is from this forum or a guest, the reason why I say this is because "simplemindedperson" presumed I was married, and I askd "how did you come to this conclusion"? he replied "because you mentioned about worrying about your sons during the tribulation". As far as I am aware I never mention about my family on Youtube, not only that, the person also knew my personal name. They seemed ok at first then switched, putting up a gorey background picture on their channel to go with Roberts video. They also mentioned in one of their posts that they had spent many years in therapy because of what the organisation had done to them. I hope im wrong, but there are quite a few messed up individuals churned out from the watchtower he wouldnt be the first.

Shikinah

[panda]

Hi Shikinah, this is an open forum to view with out being a member, and youre name has been said in posts by others and yourself in past, not sure about your marital status being discussed on here.

Just sound like another nutter, or someone that has to much time on there hands.

[watchman]

That's pretty funny actually. I can't believe that someone would waste their time doing something like that though, but hey, there are all kinds of weirdos out there on the world wide web and over the years I have attracted a fair number of them. It just comes with the territory. I don't pay them any mind. Neither should you.

What was it our sister lee used to say: "Onward and upward"?

by the way, I have mentioned it elsewhere, but I'll restate it here: I had a family emergency out of town and so am away from my little studio for now, which means no videos or podcasts. Just working off my laptop, but I did pop a new article on the blog yesterday.

watchman

[watchman]

They also mentioned in one of their posts that they had spent many years in therapy because of what the organisation had done to them.

Apparently they need a few more years of therapy. LOL

[shikinah]

Thank you Panda, thats what i meant by guests, sorry for not being clear. But as Robert said there will always be these individuals to distract from the main goal and thats to preach the word of God. Didnt know sister Lee but good advice "onward and upwards" is definately the way to go:)


Shikinah

[shikinah]

Apparently they need a few more years of therapy. LOL

Strange word "therapist" I wonder where it's derived from "the-rapist" i wonder is it abuse of an individuals mind:confused:
just a thought..

[Tsaphah]

Strange word "therapist" I wonder where it's derived from "the-rapist" i wonder is it abuse of an individuals mind:confused:
just a thought..

LOL For a long time. That is too funny. It's probably more true than the real root of the word. It apparently didn't work for this clown. :rolleyes:

therapy
1846, "medical treatment of disease," from Mod.L. therapia, from Gk. therapeia "curing, healing," from therapeuein "to cure, treat."
Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper

[Tsaphah]

A couple of scriptures just occurred to me that Paul wrote to the Romans, and another to Timothy. Both of these describe the person in question.

"And just as they did not approve of holding God in accurate knowledge, God gave them up to a disapproved mental state, to do the things not fitting, filled as they were with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, badness, being full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malicious disposition, being whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, insolent, haughty, self-assuming, inventors of injurious things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, false to agreements, having no natural affection, merciless. Although these know full well the righteous decree of God, that those practicing such things are deserving of death, they not only keep on doing them but also consent with those practicing them." (Rom 1:28-32)

“... he is puffed up [with pride], not understanding anything, but being mentally diseased over questionings and debates about words. From these things spring envy, strife, abusive speeches, wicked suspicions, violent disputes about trifles on the part of men corrupted in mind and despoiled of the truth, thinking that godly devotion is a means of gain.” (1 Tim 6:4-5).

Tsaphah

[shikinah]

LOL For a long time. That is too funny. It's probably more true than the real root of the word. It apparently didn't work for this clown. :rolleyes:

therapy
1846, "medical treatment of disease," from Mod.L. therapia, from Gk. therapeia "curing, healing," from therapeuein "to cure, treat."
Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper



Thank you for your answer Tsaphah, thank goodness its not as sinister as it sounds:)

[panda]

Thank you Panda, thats what i meant by guests, sorry for not being clear. But as Robert said there will always be these individuals to distract from the main goal and thats to preach the word of God. Didnt know sister Lee but good advice "onward and upwards" is definately the way to go:)


ShikinahI do agree with you that there seems to be an influx of demon activity concerning the organization, and ones coming out of the wood works, I have also noticed that apologists on some other forums are really starting to show a more evil side of their personalties, I guess as we get closer these things will occur, and its main objective is to stumble as many away from Gods word and his house, but its definitely aimed at the remnant.

Hope you doing well sis, your always an encouragement, and interesting threads too! I can't believe its nearly another memorial, time is just flying, but the good news is that means we are closer to the end of all this wickedness and a new world of peace.

love panda:)

[mrgalleria]

Shikinah- He has stolen your avatar!

[shikinah]

I do agree with you that there seems to be an influx of demon activity concerning the organization, and ones coming out of the wood works, I have also noticed that apologists on some other forums are really starting to show a more evil side of their personalties, I guess as we get closer these things will occur, and its main objective is to stumble as many away from Gods word and his house, but its definitely aimed at the remnant.

Hope you doing well sis, your always an encouragement, and interesting threads too! I can't believe its nearly another memorial, time is just flying, but the good news is that means we are closer to the end of all this wickedness and a new world of peace.

love panda:)

Thank you for those kind words Panda,
Yes you can feel it in tha air, and see the desperation on peoples faces. Like the scriptures say "people will not know the way out"
Now i've been told by a few people that my Avatar has been stolen, Why? because you defend the name of Jehovah on Youtube? theres some serious madness going on..Oh well I guess its to be expected.
Thank you MrGalleria for letting me know:)

[Marque100]

I've noticed all of this - there are lots of anti-jw channels posting stupid videos like you mentioned. There is also a large number of fake JW-pretending youtube accounts - many genuine JWs have subscribed to, or become friends with these. I also think many of these channels are created by either just one person or a small number of people(because of the similarity of content & behaviour). I also have suspicions about some youtube users claiming to be EX-jw. They say things like they were in the organisation for many years - but now they are all hardcore trinity/hell believers! - which is very strange. Becoming an atheist, that's probably more understandable but going back to believing the teachings of Christendom?

M.

[Peter]

One of Roberts’s 'videos for the day' "The Judgment begins with the House of God" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFllS1Zoefo)
was odd to say the least. The maker of the video maintains it was directed at tyrannical elders who had not treated the sheep with compassion. Where in the society’s literature does it say that! Anyway that’s not the point I’m making. It was the comments that interested me, they were obviously written by JWs and were hateful of Robert King. So I posted a few comments of my own.
A posters comment: “Applying for what amounts to a library card that allows the Slave to get insider information on the inner workings of the UN is hardly "getting in bed with". More like "keeping a close eye on" them!”

My Comment: "The problem is the PDF on the UN web page stating the Watchtower signed up to the UN charter. Countless have been stumbled as a result of this Library card. The Watchtower has made no defence or commented on that PDF. Surly a defence was needed (1) to shut the mouths of the critics (2) To liberate those who have been trapped by its snare. Yet the Watchtower remains silent. Really how did the Watchtower meet the criteria for NGO status in the first place?"

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A Posters Comment: “It is quite true that apostates have no god but themselves. Robert King and the like are aiding Satan by trying to discourage and devour those who are in the only united organization preaching Jehovah's Holy name and Kingdom. Apostates have nothing positive to offer. They do not preach the Kingdom. They only tear down. Jesus rightly informed us 'Every good tree produces good fruit (preaching the good news of the Kingdom)”

My Comment: “Have you read ‘Jehovah Himself has become King’? It’s all well and good to criticize a person’s work but unless you have read it your comments are no more than a sweeping statement. In fact Robert King has been preaching the name of Jehovah for many years and has never encouraged others to leave the organization or stop the preaching in the door to door ministry. Please get the facts before you speak.”

After posting my comment it refused to stick to the comment box, then I realised all comments had to be approved by a moderator. This is typical of JW’s and the adversarial approach or should I say lack of it. Yes I understand there are a few nut-jobs out there but through constructive debate comes progress.

Is there an end to these kangaroo courts.

Have to say after follow the e-watchman site for 6 years the video about e-watchman was hilarious – but then he who laughs last laughs longest.

[FutureMan]

One of Roberts’s 'videos for the day' "The Judgment begins with the House of God" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFllS1Zoefo)
was odd to say the least. The maker of the video maintains it was directed at tyrannical elders who had not treated the sheep with compassion. Where in the society’s literature does it say that! Anyway that’s not the point I’m making. It was the comments that interested me, they were obviously written by JWs and were hateful of Robert King. So I posted a few comments of my own.
A posters comment: “Applying for what amounts to a library card that allows the Slave to get insider information on the inner workings of the UN is hardly "getting in bed with". More like "keeping a close eye on" them!”

My Comment: "The problem is the PDF on the UN web page stating the Watchtower signed up to the UN charter. Countless have been stumbled as a result of this Library card. The Watchtower has made no defence or commented on that PDF. Surly a defence was needed (1) to shut the mouths of the critics (2) To liberate those who have been trapped by its snare. Yet the Watchtower remains silent. Really how did the Watchtower meet the criteria for NGO status in the first place?"

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A Posters Comment: “It is quite true that apostates have no god but themselves. Robert King and the like are aiding Satan by trying to discourage and devour those who are in the only united organization preaching Jehovah's Holy name and Kingdom. Apostates have nothing positive to offer. They do not preach the Kingdom. They only tear down. Jesus rightly informed us 'Every good tree produces good fruit (preaching the good news of the Kingdom)”

My Comment: “Have you read ‘Jehovah Himself has become King’? It’s all well and good to criticize a person’s work but unless you have read it your comments are no more than a sweeping statement. In fact Robert King has been preaching the name of Jehovah for many years and has never encouraged others to leave the organization or stop the preaching in the door to door ministry. Please get the facts before you speak.”

After posting my comment it refused to stick to the comment box, then I realised all comments had to be approved by a moderator. This is typical of JW’s and the adversarial approach or should I say lack of it. Yes I understand there are a few nut-jobs out there but through constructive debate comes progress.

Is there an end to these kangaroo courts.

Have to say after follow the e-watchman site for 6 years the video about e-watchman was hilarious – but then he who laughs last laughs longest.

Yes I had a kangaroo court, except I was not there to even respond to their accusation or accusations. (of which I did not know what I was being accused of)

They came around some days before to tell me that they were going to have a meeting and invited me to attend, all nice and friendly like mind you.

I replied that I would if they could meet at my home, which I felt much more comfortable with than at the Kingdom Hall as also my whole family could sit in as witnesses to the event.

They refused and stipulated that they would only meet at the Kingdom hall, which now in the eyes of many in the organization has become a sacred place of worship like the temple in the days of Israel, before the early Christian congregation.

They went ahead and had the meeting without me.

It must have taken them only but one hour to decide whether to disfellowship me.

Because they came around that very night to tell me that I would be disfellowshiped from the congregation.

Because from the time that the meeting was to be held and the time that it took to come to my door was only about 1 hour, by my estimation anyway.

But after I was disfellowshiped I came across information on the Internet where according to the Watchtowers own policy, they were obligated to ask me three times to come to a meeting and only then if I did not attend after repeatedly asking me to attend, then they could disfellowship me without me being present at the judicial committee meeting.

They wanted me out of the congregation in a hurry, and in my mind, there is no doubt about that.

[Gilligan]

Yes I had a kangaroo court, except I was not there to even respond to their accusation or accusations. (of which I did not know what I was being accused of)

They came around some days before to tell me that they were going to have a meeting and invited me to attend, all nice and friendly like mind you.

I replied that I would if they could meet at my home, which I felt much more comfortable with than at the Kingdom Hall as also my whole family could sit in as witnesses to the event.

They refused and stipulated that they would only meet at the Kingdom hall, which now in the eyes of many in the organization has become a sacred place of worship like the temple in the days of Israel, before the early Christian congregation.

They went ahead and had the meeting without me.

It must have taken them only but one hour to decide whether to disfellowship me.

Because they came around that very night to tell me that I would be disfellowshiped from the congregation.

Because from the time that the meeting was to be held and the time that it took to come to my door was only about 1 hour, by my estimation anyway.

But after I was disfellowshiped I came across information on the Internet where according to the Watchtowers own policy, they were obligated to ask me three times to come to a meeting and only then if I did not attend after repeatedly asking me to attend, then they could disfellowship me without me being present at the judicial committee meeting.

They wanted me out of the congregation in a hurry, and in my mind, there is no doubt about that.




Dear Bro FM,
Please don't let this experience ruin your faith in God, (as I know it Hasn't), but still, it was a nightmare going thru all this, huh?!
Keep it going my friend, run that race,,,,

Gills

[FutureMan]

Dear Bro FM,
Please don't let this experience ruin your faith in God, (as I know it Hasn't), but still, it was a nightmare going thru all this, huh?!
Keep it going my friend, run that race,,,,

Gills

Dear Gilligan, thank you so much for your kind words and encouragement.

[mrgalleria]

Alo ha,
Futureman, thanks for relating that. I sure understand how that feels.
It's really good, though, that it happened that way.
You are certain that they acted wrongly, you don't have to worry about the "what if's".
You were even in a position to pursue litigation, if you so chose.
That would have scared the pants of them, then who would have pie in their face?
Hahahaha.
Bill

[shikinah]

Dont you worry futureman Iv'e been in the arena too, you dont need their stamp of approval. Jehovah will judge them how they judged you. Just draw close to Jehovah you are not alone brother:)


Sisterly Love
Shikinah

[FutureMan]

Dont you worry futureman Iv'e been in the arena too, you dont need their stamp of approval. Jehovah will judge them how they judged you. Just draw close to Jehovah you are not alone brother:)


Sisterly Love
Shikinah

Hi Shikinah, thank you for that encouragement. :)

Yesterday I almost bumped into a sister in the congregation coming down the walk ramp from the shopping mall that would not even look at me, she kept her eyes averted from me.

I can remember feeling quite hurt after this, even feeling a bit persecuted.

I even had a dream early this morning where I was ostracized by the brothers and sisters, probably as a result of yesterday's experience.

I know that this particular sister is not shy and I also know that she is one of those who are exclusively obedient to the organizations policies and rules and regulations.

[shikinah]

Hi Shikinah, thank you for that encouragement. :)

Yesterday I almost bumped into a sister in the congregation coming down the walk ramp from the shopping mall that would not even look at me, she kept her eyes averted from me.

I can remember feeling quite hurt after this, even feeling a bit persecuted.

I even had a dream early this morning where I was ostracized by the brothers and sisters, probably as a result of yesterday's experience.




I know that this particular sister is not shy and I also know that she is one of those who are exclusively obedient to the organizations policies and rules and regulations.





That must be very hurtful, they do carry it to the extreme even without knowing the true circumstances. These very ones may yet be crying out to you, asking "what did you know please tell us" :)

Its all part of the training!
Shikinah