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FutureMan
03-23-2010, 02:46 AM
Hello all, I was looking at this prophecy yesterday once again and became increasingly puzzled as to the specific colors that were mentioned.

Revelation 9 [NWT]
13 And the sixth angel blew his trumpet. And I heard one voice out of the horns of the golden altar that is before God 14 say to the sixth angel, who had the trumpet: “Untie the four angels that are bound at the great river Eu·phra´tes.” 15 And the four angels were untied, who have been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, to kill a third of the men.
16 And the number of the armies of cavalry was two myriads of myriads: I heard the number of them. 17And this is how I saw the horses in the vision, and those seated on them: they had fire-red and hyacinth-blue and sulphur-yellow breastplates; and the heads of the horses were as heads of lions, and out of their mouths fire and smoke and sulphur issued forth. 18 By these three plagues a third of the men were killed, from the fire and the smoke and the sulphur which issued forth from their mouths. 19 For the authority of the horses is in their mouths and in their tails; for their tails are like serpents and have heads, and with these they do harm.

The colors were Fire-red, Hyacinth blue, and sulfur yellow as in the (New World Translation and some other translations)

Now I started thinking about this as to the meaning of the colors, and how was I going to go about finding out why these colors in particular.

I started first with establishing what the actual colors look like and this I was able to cross match on the Internet.

Next I started to do a search for the combination of these colors to see whether there came up a match.

With this I had no success.

But as I was searching one thing led to another and I came across the Sumerian texts as translated by man named Zechariah Sticthin. http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/zechariasitchin.htm

Now I have come across the Sumerian texts but did not really read them or gave them much attention, this time I did and the information that I came across a story the translation of these ancient texts nearly blew me away, because it was turning out to be one of the greatest science fiction novels that I have ever read, me being a science fiction buff, my Achilles heal, if you like, my weakness.

Only trouble with this science fiction was that if this guy who translated these texts is on the level, then these texts are 3500 years old at least.

Anyway here is the link to these texts, if you have an interest in reading them, but I have to warn you that it could cause you a bit of conflict with your faith as these texts really describe a history of an entirely different race, not of this earth, most of you would have heard of the Annunaki.

http://www.onegoodkitty.com/OGK-Sumerian-tablets.htm


Now anyway during the reading of one of these texts a segment flashed up for about one second of the video, with three logos.

I was blown away when I saw it because the colors were identical to the three colors that I was trying to match in the first place.

The first color that was there, was comprised of sulfur yellow and this was the logo and symbol for the (Illuminati), the second color was mostly hyacinth blue as far as I could tell anyway and it was the well known NASA logo.
The last color fire-red turned out to match up with the NAZI logo, which is also the color of socialism and communism.

After that it continued on with the translation of the Sumerian texts.

Of late I have come across articles and videos that discuss some very top secret preparation going on, at the high levels of governments, and a lot of money being spent on ultra secret installations underground etc.

Information that I'm gleaning now, is that this has largely to do with control of the masses and climate change, of which they are full aware of as to what is the real cause of it.

Call me a nut or paranoid, but I see something very strange going on as of late, like for example as an illustration, if you see a whole lot of ants scurrying around, you know that there is a lot of rain coming in the near future.

Everyone please take a little bit more note of what is really happening around you.

Good luck in your research and may god reveal to all of us soon, as to what is really going on in this world.

FutureMan
03-23-2010, 03:07 AM
I just thought that I might add that I have changed the scripture from the LITV translation to the NWT as that is where I found that actual rendering of the colors.

Sorry for the confusion if you have already read the scripture from the LITV version that I had quoted in the first place.

Tsaphah
03-23-2010, 05:42 AM
The last color fire-red turned out to match up with the NAZI logo, which is also the color of socialism and communism.


Oh my, I always thought that the color fire-red was the color of the Republican party. :cool::cool:

Don't let them hear you say that it's Socialist/Communist. Especially that guy named Glenn Beck.:p

And hyacinth blue is the color of the Democrats.

Just kidding. I haven't read the other information yet. I will.

Tsaphah

FutureMan
03-23-2010, 10:37 PM
Oh my, I always thought that the color fire-red was the color of the Republican party. :cool::cool:

Don't let them hear you say that it's Socialist/Communist. Especially that guy named Glenn Beck.:p

And hyacinth blue is the color of the Democrats.

Just kidding. I haven't read the other information yet. I will.

Tsaphah


Hi Tsaphah and hi all, It is strange to me that these three symbols came up in a segment of a translation of one of the Sumerian texts and matching the three colors that I was doing research on.

It appears to me that someone wanted to get over the message to people, that these three, that is the Illuminati (the elite group such as the International bankers, Rockefeller foundation, certain ones in the council for foreign relations, the Bilderberg group, Trilateral commission, committee of three hundred, the Club of Rome and so on) and NASA who is most certainly backed by the military and the NAZIS ideology which is behind all three.
As many know NASA has it's origins with Nazi scientists who America draughted into their society with the aims of increasing their technological capabilities.

As I understand as of now NASA is only just a respectable civilian front, for the American military.

It is the technology coming from NASA that is going to give the controllers, advanced military capabilities such as the Star Wars program.

mrgalleria
03-24-2010, 12:49 AM
Alo ha,
My wife and I have been discussing this very much.
In the news lately, it is being said the real Chinese
army is 200,000,000. We find the similarity interesting.
But we could not associate all of the colors, as of yet.
Your theory is quite amazing.
But it does not resolve the issue of 200,000,000 cavalry.
Bill

FutureMan
03-24-2010, 01:07 AM
Alo ha,

But it does not resolve the issue of 200,000,000 cavalry.
Bill

Hello Bill, my theory is that the 200,000,000 is the Global army of the so-called New World Order.

FutureMan
03-24-2010, 01:11 AM
Hello Bill, my theory is that the 200,000,000 is the Global army of the so-called New World Order.

As far as the Watchtower Society is concerned the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses is this cavalry as to their members and all their literature.

I'm not convinced of this as I believe it to be the global armies of this world released to dominate mankind for a period of time.

mrgalleria
03-24-2010, 01:19 AM
Alo ha,
Yes, I understood that (NWO). Is there any indication that is true?

The WTS is mad. Sorry if I offended anyone.
Bill

FutureMan
03-24-2010, 01:33 AM
Alo ha,
Yes, I understood that (NWO). Is there any indication that is true?
Bill

Yes Bill there are indications all over the place in the news and on the Internet etc, where military rehearsals are taking place for marshal law, particularly in the United states where they preparing for a national emergency.

Even though there appear to be disagreements among the governments of this world as it appears to the public, such as now between Israel and USA over the settlement issue or China and America or Russia and America etc, at the ultra secret levels (the elite with an agenda) of these governments, I believe that there are plans to institute plans for control of this world, but most likely it will start in America as their financial empire crumbles, their by giving a good reason for marshal law to be instituted.

This is my theory anyway.

FutureMan
03-24-2010, 02:19 AM
Here is another clue.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1190824_a_million_library_books_to_be_sent_down_th e_mines

And another one.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/02/26/norway.seeds/index.html

FutureMan
03-24-2010, 02:27 AM
Here is another clue.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1190824_a_million_library_books_to_be_sent_down_th e_mines

And another one.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/02/26/norway.seeds/index.html

Here is another clue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance

mrgalleria
03-24-2010, 07:04 AM
Alo ha,
Sorry again, but I need to be more clear.
I was referring to the Bible's number, as in "the number of"
which specifically states "two myriads of myriads'
which we believe to be 200,000,000.
Is there any evidence that the NWO has a cavalry (soldiers)
amounting to 200,000,000?
It seems China is capable of raising 200,000,000
cavalry. I posted here some time ago that China was engaging in
field exercises that were moving 50,000 men over long distances.
They were even utilizing passenger planes. Have you seen the giant
Chinese cargo ships- I think you have?
It has also been claimed that there are 3 million multinational troops
already placed in the US, Canada, Mexico, and Alaska- in secret locations.
Investigators going into Mexico disappear.
Bill

FutureMan
03-24-2010, 09:37 AM
Alo ha,
Sorry again, but I need to be more clear.
I was referring to the Bible's number, as in "the number of"
which specifically states "two myriads of myriads'
which we believe to be 200,000,000.
Is there any evidence that the NWO has a cavalry (soldiers)
amounting to 200,000,000?
It seems China is capable of raising 200,000,000
cavalry. I posted here some time ago that China was engaging in
field exercises that were moving 50,000 men over long distances.
They were even utilizing passenger planes. Have you seen the giant
Chinese cargo ships- I think you have?
It has also been claimed that there are 3 million multinational troops
already placed in the US, Canada, Mexico, and Alaska- in secret locations.
Investigators going into Mexico disappear.
Bill


Hi Bill, there is not really any real evidence for the New World Order either, as planned by the elite, except for the information that most of us has gleaned of the Internet.

Of course there is plenty of evidence of it been talked about.

But if the New World Order is not just a conspiracy and is a reality then once implemented among the majority of countries in the world, they would have access to all the military in each of the countries that agree to it, and also access to the police force in each country to implement the polices.

This possibly could amount to 200,000,000 all up. But what if the number is meant to be translated as (20,000,000) as translated in the (2001 Translation – An American English Bible)
(Revelation 9)
16 These messengers led] an army that I was told had twenty-million horsemen. 17 And this is what the horses and their riders looked like in the vision: They wore fire-red, hyacinth-blue, and sulfur-yellow breastplates.

As for China they could very well be part of it, though there is some hint of a conflict between the so-called Illuminati group and the eastern societies who control China and other Asian countries.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/secret-societies.htm

As for the said build up of troops from China inside America, if they are indeed there then it would be hard to believe that the Intelligence Agencies within America, do not know about this with all the surveillance technology that they have.

There could be only one reason why they would be there and that is because they are allowed to be there.

But according to the Bible there is something else that could unite the worlds military forces.

A common perceived enemy or purpose.

Revelation 16[LITV]
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are spirits of demons doing signs, which go forth to the kings of the earth, even of the whole habitable world to assemble them to the war of that day, the great day of God Almighty.

elihu
03-24-2010, 10:54 AM
Hi Futureman,

and i have to say thank you for all your time and effort in alerting us to the machinations that are gathering mankind into a net.

i do not have the mental strength or time to delve into these things, but i can see from the small bit of the world that i have to interact with that there is a definite drive toward dictorial rule.
centralization of power is taking place in britain, isolating people in their communities and reducing their ability to change policy.

the arrogant politicians speak of democracy and what is best for britain , and they are in the process of cutting public spending and throwing thousands more on to the social security system.
they manipulate statistics to paint the picture they want people to see, not the real one that the citizens have to live in.

"we need to cut the deficit" they cry whilst they continue to allow the bankers to have their bonuses.
they say "pain must be felt" but they are making sure that it is not felt by their allies.
the common people are the ones who are to suffer.

they have taken the country to war, an illegal war, lie after lie they tell, political objectors are ridiculed, and dismissed, or resign , one died on a mountain the RT Honorable Robin Cook MP, suspicious to say the least.
the supposes suicide of a professor (forgotton his name, lawrence i think) but he was heavily involved with the iraq details and they did not want him to talk
years later they hold an inquest about the decision to go to war in Iraq, Tony Blair defends his decisions and actually tells them that they may have to make the same type of decision again with regard to Iran.

its hard to tell at times who is in on the plan and who is just inevitably part of it, but i think the effect of the oligarchys mentality is propelled down through government systems in readiness for control of the masses.
Local authorities here in britain , counciils and health service bodies all carry masonic influence.
notably Christ said

" watch out for yourselves they will deliver you up to councils, and you will be beaten in the synagogues.You will be brought before rulers and kings for MY sake, for a testimony to them"

so the structure is in place for people to deliver Christians to councils to be taken before rulers for questioning.


and it does not take a genius to envisage how at a single command from a central source could turn these authorities into dictorial control devices, the infrastructure is already in place, the conditioning of thought within the " human resources" is well advanced, it is primed and ready to act.

as i said earlier FM i possess neither the intelect, or the time to investigate the more in depth signs of something evil, but like a field mouse on a stalk of wheat i can feel a storm is brewing.

elihu

Jeshurun
03-24-2010, 02:59 PM
Don't look now, but the Zionist Illuminati (Babylon the Great) is going down SOON. They have had control over EVERYTHING, including religion. Led by the dissolution (or hopefully, total ANNIHILATION) of the Federal Reserve, just watch what happens when these creeps can no longer suppress God!

And by the way, all this negative speculation serves the old order. Time to wake up to Paradise!

Love,
Jesh

FutureMan
03-24-2010, 09:58 PM
Don't look now, but the Zionist Illuminati (Babylon the Great) is going down SOON. They have had control over EVERYTHING, including religion. Led by the dissolution (or hopefully, total ANNIHILATION) of the Federal Reserve, just watch what happens when these creeps can no longer suppress God!

And by the way, all this negative speculation serves the old order. Time to wake up to Paradise!

Love,
Jesh

Well in your opinion then that rules out the great tribulation now doesn't it?

That is a negative, Jesus did not indicate that this will be a pleasant time for anyone.

Unless you are indicating that the Great Tribulation that Jesus was talking about has already happened.:confused:

Jeshurun
03-25-2010, 04:54 AM
Well in your opinion then that rules out the great tribulation now doesn't it?

That is a negative, Jesus did not indicate that this will be a pleasant time for anyone.

Unless you are indicating that the Great Tribulation that Jesus was talking about has already happened.:confused:

Babylon won't go down quietly, but it WILL be swift. It may not be all the gloom and doom that you expect. Jehovah changed his mind about Ninevah, didn't he?

Love,
Jesh

elihu
03-25-2010, 08:40 AM
Babylon won't go down quietly, but it WILL be swift. It may not be all the gloom and doom that you expect. Jehovah changed his mind about Ninevah, didn't he?

Love,
Jesh

the ninevites were ignorant, the machinations of BTG are deliberate, will God show mercy to a deliberate act?
and i have to say Jeshurun after all the conspiracy theories, and covert theories that you have posted on many sites, i am surprised that you have said what you have said.

yes we must focus on Christ and his promises, the good news of the kingdom, but it does no harm from time to time to stretch out a hand and touch the water temperature in order to recognise where we are in time.
and the water temperature is definitely rising.

elihu

shikinah
03-25-2010, 08:43 AM
Thank you for that research Futureman, I have read about these sumerian tablets before and they give us an almost hopeless insight into the creation of man, that we were just created to mine gold for beings from another planet, I believe some ancient civilisation must have been in contact with demonic entities when these tablets were written as they serve Zecharia Sitchins claim that these beings came from the 12th planet known as Nibiru.
We know satan is the father of the lie, and I think the biggest lie we may see is Nasa's trump card when they display their military advancement in the form of UFO'S in an attempt to bring about mass control and fear of alien control or decision for plannet earth from a superior source.
There has been accounts from Maxwell who states while in the military to have seen flying saucers come and go up from the river, but they wernt to say a word. Yet he believed it was advanced US technology. I think the scripture in Mathew where it speaks people fainting out of fear of the things coming upon the inhabited earth is far more than we are prepared for. People will truely not know which way to turn or what to believe, as satan will make sure he will create religious, racial, political, chaos which will cause mass hysteria.
They seem to be working against the clock and 2012 definately has something to do with their agenda, papers in Britain yesturday were saying we should prepare to be nuked,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/7500719/Nuclear-terror-risk-to-Britain-from-al-Qaeda.html
God help us I pray it never comes to this. But their definately speeding things up and it seems war with Iran seems more realistic as days go by. The 200,000,000 could possibly the world army of the UN, who seems to be pushing for world government.


Shikinah

FutureMan
03-25-2010, 10:27 AM
Thank you for that research Futureman, I have read about these sumerian tablets before and they give us an almost hopeless insight into the creation of man, that we were just created to mine gold for beings from another planet, I believe some ancient civilisation must have been in contact with demonic entities when these tablets were written as they serve Zecharia Sitchins claim that these beings came from the 12th planet known as Nibiru.
We know satan is the father of the lie, and I think the biggest lie we may see is Nasa's trump card when they display their military advancement in the form of UFO'S in an attempt to bring about mass control and fear of alien control or decision for plannet earth from a superior source.
There has been accounts from Maxwell who states while in the military to have seen flying saucers come and go up from the river, but they wernt to say a word. Yet he believed it was advanced US technology. I think the scripture in Mathew where it speaks people fainting out of fear of the things coming upon the inhabited earth is far more than we are prepared for. People will truely not know which way to turn or what to believe, as satan will make sure he will create religious, racial, political, chaos which will cause mass hysteria.
They seem to be working against the clock and 2012 definately has something to do with their agenda, papers in Britain yesturday were saying we should prepare to be nuked,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/7500719/Nuclear-terror-risk-to-Britain-from-al-Qaeda.html
God help us I pray it never comes to this. But their definately speeding things up and it seems war with Iran seems more realistic as days go by. The 200,000,000 could possibly the world army of the UN, who seems to be pushing for world government.


Shikinah

Hi Shikinah I just wondering now how those signs in the sun and the moon and the stars is going to become manifested.

(Luke 21) [LITV]
25 And there will be signs in the sun and moon and stars. And on the earth will be anxiety of nations with bewilderment, roaring of sea and of surf,
26 men fainting from fear, and expectation of the things coming on the earth. For the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Even the Watchtower Society have not excluded the possibility of real celestial phenomenon.

Jeshurun
03-25-2010, 12:48 PM
the ninevites were ignorant, the machinations of BTG are deliberate, will God show mercy to a deliberate act?
and i have to say Jeshurun after all the conspiracy theories, and covert theories that you have posted on many sites, i am surprised that you have said what you have said.

yes we must focus on Christ and his promises, the good news of the kingdom, but it does no harm from time to time to stretch out a hand and touch the water temperature in order to recognise where we are in time.
and the water temperature is definitely rising.

elihu

Elihu, everybody WITH A PULSE knows where we are in time. Did you know that more than 98 percent of the crap out there on the Internet is DISINFORMATION planted by the global elite? People being IN FEAR and feeling HELPLESS to HELP THEMSELVES, to GET TOGETHER and RISE UP and establish LOVE as the RULE is what has kept them in power for almost 4,000 years. Please, try to think outside the Watchtower's "vengeance is mine" portrayal of the Old Testament God who murdered 2.2 million people to establish his "chosen nation". It's no wonder where Hitler got his ideas. Half of that stuff was interpolated by corrupt Levite priests. Or, you can just continue to ignore the Bible's innumerable contradictions and failed prophecies and keep worrying.

Yes. I've changed over the years. Four decades of the "GT" and "The Big A" being always imminent is enough for me. It does not resonate with a God of Love.

And yes, the temperature is rising, and its all good...a new energy is coming into the earth, and here's the proof...

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/06/nasa-study-shows-sun-responsible-for-planet-warming/

Love,
Jesh

truthseeker
03-25-2010, 01:16 PM
Elihu, everybody WITH A PULSE knows where we are in time. Did you know that more than 98 percent of the crap out there on the Internet is DISINFORMATION planted by the global elite? People being IN FEAR and feeling HELPLESS to HELP THEMSELVES, to GET TOGETHER and RISE UP and establish LOVE as the RULE is what has kept them in power for almost 4,000 years. Please, try to think outside the Watchtower's "vengeance is mine" portrayal of the Old Testament God who murdered 2.2 million people to establish his "chosen nation". It's no wonder where Hitler got his ideas. Half of that stuff was interpolated by corrupt Levite priests. Or, you can just continue to ignore the Bible's innumerable contradictions and failed prophecies and keep worrying.

Yes. I've changed over the years. Four decades of the "GT" and "The Big A" being always imminent is enough for me. It does not resonate with a God of Love.

And yes, the temperature is rising, and its all good...a new energy is coming into the earth, and here's the proof...

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/06/nasa-study-shows-sun-responsible-for-planet-warming/

Love,
Jesh

Hi Jesh
Questions to you: With your present knowledge can you direct me to any scripture that you feel are uncorrupted and I can put absolute faith in? Or does the responsibility lay with the individual to ascertain scriptural fact from fiction guided only by Holy Spirit and not by any man?
Sincerely truthseeker

Molly
03-25-2010, 02:11 PM
Jesh-

Nice to see that you are still stopping by for a visit now and then!

So, there is precisely 98% disinformation on the internet, is there. LOL I don't think it is quite that high because there's at least 25% misinformation. Now, we can quibble over whether it is misinformation or disinformation. You could say the misinformation started as disinformation a hundred years ago and you would have a point, so you are correct to a degree. We have been fed a lot of lies and nonsense over the years. And in some cases valuable information has been hidden from us. There is soooooo much going on that is beyond our control. But, who cares. Why worry about what you can't control. Like this Health Care legislation. It's existence just shows us where we are in the stream of time. And, it means that for the powers that be (behind the scenes) their time is running out.

You are right that we shouldn't be quite so afraid of the future. We can read any number of things about what the great tribulation will be about and, no question, it will be intense, but not for an extended period. There simply won't be time for the Zionist Illuminati (or whoever) to do all the things that have been suggested on the internet. But there will be a time during which all will be tested as to their love for God. Those found to be practising their faithfulness to God and Christ be afforded some protection.

After the intensity of the GT, things will settle down and while those found faithful will enjoy protection, the rest of humanity will not unless they listen to the prophesing and repent of their vile deeds. There is no way of knowing how many will respond. Hundreds of thousands? Millions? Billions? I agree that our Heavenly Father is a God of love and right up until the end, Revelation speaks of earnest cries for people to repent and changed their ways. Of course, it also says that most won't. So, it will only be their fault if they are destroyed. It is not reasonable to expect everyone to want to change. Nor is it reasonable to expect God to pardon those who won't. It is their choice.

So, we are assured that this stuff will not go on and on endlessly. We are even told that 3 1/2 years is all that will be alloted to wrap up the mess. But first there will be a lot of problems when the GT breaks out. For the last several thousands of years those in power have made life much more difficult for the ordinary man than was necessary, extracting from his efforts anything of value that they could. Things will be so different when those greedy parasites are gone. Why would anyone miss people like that?

Molly