What does it say about us?

[steff]

...and this forum that on the day of Christ's Memorial we don't talk about it here?
...not even a one post?

scary, isn't it?

steff

[watchman]

Instead of depending on someone else to bring up a Memorial topic why not start a discussion yourself?

watchman

[truthseeker]

...and this forum that on the day of Christ's Memorial we don't talk about it here?
...not even a one post?

scary, isn't it?

steff

Yea I was thinking about that!
Actually tomorow is the day after sun down today but close!
But remember this is just a discusion board not a congregation, Robert never set it up that way to my knowlege.
But all the same; Jahsdisiple started a thread something along the subject in questions.
Have a good memorial ALL.
Love truthseeker

[SlaveForJah]

...and this forum that on the day of Christ's Memorial we don't talk about it here (http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/showthread.php?3996-Memorial-2010-New-Partakers)?
...not even a one post?

scary, isn't it?

steff

Hello steff,

Christian greetings. I was thinking along those same lines myself. Which is why I did post a thread about the memorial here. Perhaps you just missed it, as it was only about 30 minutes before you posted this current thread.

In years past there has been much discussion about the Memorial in the weeks running up to that day, but there has been precious little so far this year. Anyhow, I invite you to respond to the thread I linked you to above, perhaps that will generate a bit more of a discussion and get some good responses.


Thankful for Jehovah's provision of the Lamb's sacrifice

SlaveForJah

[SWORDOFJAH]

Jesus' Life and You

How does this affect you—indeed, all of us? Well, Jesus' ministry, death, and resurrection magnify Jehovah God and are crucial to the outworking of His grand purpose. (Colossians 1:18-20) They are of vital importance to us in that we can have our sins forgiven on the basis of Jesus' sacrifice and can thus have a personal relationship with Jehovah God.—John 14:6; 1 John 2:1, 2.

Even mankind's dead are affected. Jesus' resurrection opens the way to bring them back to life in God's promised Paradise earth. (Luke 23:39-43; 1 Corinthians 15:20-22) If you want to know more about such matters, we invite you to attend the Memorial of Christ's death on March 30, 2010, at a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses in your area.

The Watchtower March 15, 1998

[steff]

Instead of depending on someone else to bring up a Memorial topic why not start a discussion yourself?

watchman

I just did! :)

Did you know how many part takers were last year as annunced today? (I live in UK)??
Was said. ''just over 11000''
Interesting, isn't it?

Thank you,
I must go to sleep now...

steff

[Utuna]

I just did! :)

Did you know how many part takers were last year as annunced today? (I live in UK)??
Was said. ''just over 11000''
Interesting, isn't it?

Thank you,
I must go to sleep now...

steff

Hi steff,

Tonight, in my congregation, they said "about 10 000"...

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"Le sectarisme des jugements pauvres lui tenait quelquefois lieu de volonté" - Hervé Bazin
"J'ai pétri de la boue et j'en ai fait de l'or" - Charles Baudelaire
"S'il m'a été donné de voir un peu plus loin que les autres, c'est que je me tenais sur les épaules de géants" - Isaac Newton

[watchman]

Here is my memorial contribution
http://vimeo.com/7420313

[FutureMan]

Here is my memorial contribution
http://vimeo.com/7420313

I looked at your video, and I commend you for it, as pictures speaks volumes.:cool:

[Gilligan]

Here is my memorial contribution
http://vimeo.com/7420313

Wonderful video E-Man,,,

And, watching this with my headphones half-off I can hear weeping taking place behind the music,,,,

Gills

[shikinah]

Steff I was also thinking how quiet the discussion of Jesus memorial has been this year, but I think it has been quite an emotional few days, with resignations, threats of resignations and dismisals happening all over the place, perhaps satan used this as a distraction who knows? But I got there tonight, i really do not like the new songs, hardly anyone knew them, it was almost a low mumble tone. I would much prefer if they did a screen presentation similar to Roberts, with information of his last trials. Perhaps at an auditorium or large assembly, then pass the bread and the wine afterward , I saw poor children bored stiff. They need to make it more visable, Jesus death should be a memorable event, this was nice but could be much better.
Thank you Robert, that was very moving, I loved the music, where is it from?

Shikinah

[truthseeker]

“Have no fear, little flock, because YOUR Father has approved of giving YOU the kingdom.

[Juan23]

Hi steff,

Tonight, in my congregation, they said "about 10 000"...

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"Le sectarisme des jugements pauvres lui tenait quelquefois lieu de volonté" - Hervé Bazin
"J'ai pétri de la boue et j'en ai fait de l'or" - Charles Baudelaire
"S'il m'a été donné de voir un peu plus loin que les autres, c'est que je me tenais sur les épaules de géants" - Isaac Newton

10,857. The speaker was reading from the 2010 yearbook.

[watchman]

Thank you Robert, that was very moving, I loved the music, where is it from?

Shikinah

I bought the rights to use it.

[shikinah]

I bought the rights to use it.

Ok, sounds a little like something from lion king but with a spiritual tone and without the beats, its really beautiful.

[watchman]

I buy most of the music I use for the videos from audio sparx (http://www.audiosparx.com/) They have recently raised their prices though, so I am buying as much as before.

[Eyes & Ears]

At my congregation the brother giving the talk stated about 7,000. So many different numbers:rolleyes: Go Figure.

We had a little over 200 in attendance. We might have had more (maybe) but

it was almost 9 before we go started this year due to sharing with another cong.

I sat in the back this year to be nosey. I did not see anyone partake. I saw some

puzzled looks on the faces of visitors when we went over the 144,000 and the new

covenant. I saw one sister who I wanted to smack (she has issues) sniff the wine

as if she was in a wine tasting place and then shake her head to the persons she

she was with as if to say "yeah this is o.k." and then she passed it on. It was

absolutely disgusting to make a mockery like that. You would have to know her to

understand.


The brother that gave the talk fumbled so very much. It was quite distracting for

me to concentrate. I think what they do is share the memorial talk each year

with different elders rather than one brother give the talk all the time. He really

fumbled when trying to inform us of the memorial partakers last year.


This was a memorial to focus on what our heavenly father and his loving son have

done for us, but this is the first time I was very fidgety in some of what was said.

May Jehovah be with us all as we continue to focus on this most loving provision

given to mankind. What a precious, loving and unselfish thing to do for us all.


E & E

[Eyes & Ears]

Steff I was also thinking how quiet the discussion of Jesus memorial has been this year, but I think it has been quite an emotional few days, with resignations, threats of resignations and dismisals happening all over the place, perhaps satan used this as a distraction who knows? But I got there tonight, i really do not like the new songs, hardly anyone knew them, it was almost a low mumble tone. I would much prefer if they did a screen presentation similar to Roberts, with information of his last trials. Perhaps at an auditorium or large assembly, then pass the bread and the wine afterward , I saw poor children bored stiff. They need to make it more visable, Jesus death should be a memorable event, this was nice but could be much better.
Thank you Robert, that was very moving, I loved the music, where is it from?

Shikinah


Hi Shikinah,

There is something happening not only on the board but throughout. Especially behind the scenes. (My opinion)

I also feel that perhaps some may have different understandings now so
they may feel it best to leave this be so as not to cause an uproar on the board. This is my opinion only. I don't know anything I am just expressing my own personal thoughts, which mean diddly squat (smile and a very weak smile at that)

I posted above before I read all the expressions and it was almost the same
in my cong. Babies crying. One child was very unruly, and during regular meetings she is not that active.

I do not care for the new songs either at all. Not at all. But as the brother
tried to do the best that he could (perhaps he was nervous - not sure) he fumbled
a great deal, I tried to focus on what this all meant to me and for mankind if they accept Jehovah's provision of salvation.

The memorial atmosphere was very different in my opinion as I sat in the hall this year. Very different.

For me from now on I will make sure that I take care of my spiritual reminder needs for this most loving occasion and do what needs to be done in thanking Jehovah and showing him my appreciation for all he and his son have done I will not look to the board or anyone else to do this for me. If the system is still functioning in 2011 as it is now, it will be interesting to see how memorial attendance, talk, numbers announced, etc will be handled at that time.

Not sure who, but someone did mention that this is a board and it is not set up for that purpose. I have to agree with that. Not that anyone asked (smiling) So what does that say about us? For me it says I take responsibility for taking time to thank my father for what he has done and to go over whatever background information I feel will help me appreciate and understand this better.

There is an arrangement now that Jehovah allows to stand. So until I see the need to do otherwise I will continue to support that until Jehovah directs me to do otherwise. There is a lot that has me fidgety at this time, but I will wait on Jehovah to help me sort all of that out.

Just some of my rambling thoughts I am sharing.

With Love to you and yours Shikinah

E & E

[greymourning]

“Have no fear, little flock, because YOUR Father has approved of giving YOU the kingdom.



Thank you for that truthseeker, my memorial was an emotionally chilly occasion in which I was disowned by my family for partaking. As Matthew 10:32-39 says, I should expect nothing less. And this may not be a congregation, but i find more strength and love here then i do at the hall. I appreciate the deep spiritual minds that come here and the respect and love between all of you.

[James]

At my congregation the brother giving the talk stated about 7,000. So many different numbers:rolleyes: Go Figure.


Hi Sister!

Our speaker gave the same figure that Juan23 stated - 10,857. Maybe your speaker was giving this years total? Divine revelation??? LOL



We had a little over 200 in attendance. We might have had more (maybe) but

it was almost 9 before we go started this year due to sharing with another cong.


We had about 130-140 attendance. It was definitely less than last year.

My sister (sibling) said hers' was starting at 9 also, yet ours (which was after the first cong.) started at 9:30. I just find the time difference odd, as they are such sticklers for time.



I sat in the back this year to be nosey. I did not see anyone partake.

No partakers over here either. Here's something my daughter noticed that I couldn't answer. There were 4 plates of bread and 4 glasses of wine, yet only 3 were passed around. Is the 4th one a spare??



The brother that gave the talk fumbled so very much. It was quite distracting for

me to concentrate. I think what they do is share the memorial talk each year

with different elders rather than one brother give the talk all the time. He really

fumbled when trying to inform us of the memorial partakers last year.


I was a little unsettled too. We had the elder that introduced the speaker stumble his words. The speaker sounded like this was his first public talk ( this was his first Memorial talk, so I understand his nervousness). And the 2 brothers that offered up prayer while the emblems were passed were quite at a loss for words - and one was the P.O.!
The only other comment I have, in past Memorials, the speaker would say something while the emblems were passed, usually little factoids related to the occasion. Oh well, each speaker is different...


Just curious, Robert, did you attend? beard and all??


agape,
James

[shikinah]

Hello sister E&E,
I understand excactly where your coming from, there is definately something strange at work. For the first time in the 30 years of knowing the truth, I felt a sadness as the wine and bread was moved along from person to person in a carefree way, I actually felt why are so many rejecting Jesus, even though I know what the organisation stand is on this, that it is only for the 144,000. I actually felt like taking it but I know Im not of the heavenly calling. I just felt a sadness and I cant explain why. Also in the prayer the brother asked for the holy spirit to be present over the wine, what does this mean?
I didnt see anyone take the emblems this year, be interesting to find out how many who did, guess we'll have to wait.


Sisterly Love
Elizabeth x

[shikinah]

Thank you for that truthseeker, my memorial was an emotionally chilly occasion in which I was disowned by my family for partaking. As Matthew 10:32-39 says, I should expect nothing less. And this may not be a congregation, but i find more strength and love here then i do at the hall. I appreciate the deep spiritual minds that come here and the respect and love between all of you.

Greymourning,
Why would your family disown you for partaking, are they themselves Jehovahs Witnesses?
Its a personal decision between you and Jesus Christ, no one has the right to interfere with that.

Love
Shikinah

[greymourning]

As they refuse to speak to me I can only guess. Since others have told me their reasons for being judgmental, I will list them. One is my age, I am younger than what is expected. Another is that I have been told i do not have the appropriate 'works', namely I am not a pioneer or some other outstanding contributer to the ministry. Though I am regular in the field ministry I am not 'outstanding'. In fact I am not outstanding in any way, according to many in my congregation. I quoted 1 Corinthians 1:26-31, in a letter to some who were suggesting i did not have proper 'qualifications'. I doubt it will matter though.I am willing to pick up my torture stake and trudge through the mass of scorn and indignation. There are a few loving ones in my hall who have stood by my side despite the opinions of the many, which is truly a blessing from Jehovah. I can withstand it alone but having a friend by my side helps immensely.

[shikinah]

As they refuse to speak to me I can only guess. Since others have told me their reasons for being judgmental, I will list them. One is my age, I am younger than what is expected. Another is that I have been told i do not have the appropriate 'works', namely I am not a pioneer or some other outstanding contributer to the ministry. Though I am regular in the field ministry I am not 'outstanding'. In fact I am not outstanding in any way, according to many in my congregation. I quoted 1 Corinthians 1:26-31, in a letter to some who were suggesting i did not have proper 'qualifications'. I doubt it will matter though.I am willing to pick up my torture stake and trudge through the mass of scorn and indignation. There are a few loving ones in my hall who have stood by my side despite the opinions of the many, which is truly a blessing from Jehovah. I can withstand it alone but having a friend by my side helps immensely.

Thank you for sharing that with me greymourning, its not about being outstanding, or being a pioneer, I didnt realise you had to qualify in this way? I thought it was about your heart felt relationship with Jesus, as they said last night, "only they themselves know" who knows whats prepared for you or what stand you will have to make when trials and tribulations come which only YOU from your experiences could relate to. how dare they act like Jehovah in making judgement, they cannot see the future and your purpose only Jehovah knows that. I was given a bible study by one of the Remnent back in the early 80's, she was very young also around her early 20's, she was a lovely girl, and I use to hear the many comments made about her, but she was strong and never let them get to her.

Mathew 5:3 "Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need, since the kingdom of the heavens belongs to them". 4) Happy are those who MOURN, since they will be comforted.
11. Happy are YOU when people re-proach YOU and persecute YOU and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against YOU for MY sake"


Sisterly Love
Shikinah x

[truthseeker]

As they refuse to speak to me I can only guess. Since others have told me their reasons for being judgmental, I will list them. One is my age, I am younger than what is expected. Another is that I have been told i do not have the appropriate 'works', namely I am not a pioneer or some other outstanding contributer to the ministry. Though I am regular in the field ministry I am not 'outstanding'. In fact I am not outstanding in any way, according to many in my congregation. I quoted 1 Corinthians 1:26-31, in a letter to some who were suggesting i did not have proper 'qualifications'. I doubt it will matter though.I am willing to pick up my torture stake and trudge through the mass of scorn and indignation. There are a few loving ones in my hall who have stood by my side despite the opinions of the many, which is truly a blessing from Jehovah. I can withstand it alone but having a friend by my side helps immensely.

Good Morning / Greymourning!
You may have already read this article but if not once past all the date setting stuff the last couple paragraphs make the point of interest to you sister!
In fact bethel is well aware there are eleventh hour workers in our midst!
“Those who are last will be first and the first ones last” apparently according to scripture this does not go over well with some!

Watchtower May 1st 2007 page 31
Questions From Readers

When does the calling of Christians to a heavenly hope cease?

The Bible does not reveal a precise answer to that question. We do know that the anointing of Jesus’ disciples with a view to their heavenly inheritance began in 33 C.E. (Acts 2:1-4) We also know that after the death of the apostles, genuine anointed Christian “wheat” came to “grow together” with counterfeit Christians, “weeds.” (Matthew 13:24-30) Then, starting in the late 1800’s, anointed Christians were again prominently active. In 1919 “the harvest of the earth,” including the gathering of the final ones of the anointed, began to be reaped.—Revelation 14:15, 16.
From the late 1800’s until 1931, the main thrust of the preaching work was the gathering of the remaining members of the body of Christ. In 1931 the Bible Students took the Bible-based name Jehovah’s Witnesses, and in the November 15, 1933, issue of The Watchtower, the thought was expressed that this unique name was the “denarius” referred to in Jesus’ parable recorded at Matthew 20:1-16. The 12 hours mentioned in the parable were thought to correspond to the 12 years from 1919 to 1931. For many years after that, it was believed that the call to the heavenly Kingdom had ended in 1931 and that those called to be joint heirs with Christ in 1930 and 1931 were “the last” called. (Matthew 20:6-8) However, in 1966 an adjusted understanding of that parable was presented, and it became clear that it had nothing to do with the end of the calling of the anointed.
In 1935 the “great crowd” of Revelation 7:9-15 was understood to be made up of “other sheep,” Christians with an earthly hope, who would appear on the world scene in “the last days” and who as a group would survive Armageddon. (John 10:16; 2 Timothy 3:1; Revelation 21:3, 4) After that year, the thrust of the disciple-making work turned to the gathering in of the great crowd. Hence, especially after 1966 it was believed that the heavenly call ceased in 1935. This seemed to be confirmed when almost all who were baptized after 1935 felt that they had the earthly hope. Thereafter, any called to the heavenly hope were believed to be replacements for anointed Christians who had proved unfaithful.
Without a doubt, if one of the anointed unrepentantly falls away, Jehovah does call another individual to take his place. (Romans 11:17-22) However, the number of genuine anointed ones who have become unfaithful is likely not large. On the other hand, as time has gone by, some Christians baptized after 1935 have had witness borne to them that they have the heavenly hope. (Romans 8:16, 17) Thus, it appears that we cannot set a specific date for when the calling of Christians to the heavenly hope ends.
How should a person be viewed who has determined in his heart that he is now anointed and begins to partake of the emblems at the Memorial? He should not be judged. The matter is between him and Jehovah. (Romans 14:12) However, genuine anointed Christians do not demand special attention. They do not believe that their being of the anointed gives them special “insights,” beyond what even some experienced members of the great crowd may have. They do not believe that they necessarily have more holy spirit than their companions of the other sheep have; nor do they expect special treatment or claim that their partaking of the emblems places them above the appointed elders in the congregation. They humbly remember that some anointed men in the first century did not qualify to serve as elders or ministerial servants. (1 Timothy 3:1-10, 12, 13; Titus 1:5-9; James 3:1) Some anointed Christians were even spiritually weak. (1 Thessalonians 5:14) And sisters, although anointed, did not teach in the congregation.—1 Timothy 2:11, 12.
Hence, anointed Christians along with their other sheep companions strive to stay spiritually strong, cultivating the fruitage of the spirit and working for the peace of the congregation. All Christians, whether anointed or of the other sheep, work hard at preaching the good news and making disciples under the direction of the Governing Body. Anointed Christians are content to do this for as long as it is God’s will that they remain on earth as Jehovah’s servants.

[greymourning]

Thank you shikinah and truthseeker for your posts, they touched my heart and are strengthening to me. Jehovah has given me much insight in the last year and a half and I am no slacker when it comes to the scriptures. For the first six months I was holed up in my house reading the scriptures for hours on end! I would be literally bubbling over to the elders at my hall about the things Jehovah was teaching me. The elders at my hall that are close to me do not doubt me due to this insight that i had suddenly acquired. However there is an encouraged thinking that you are spiritually weak if you cannot make every meeting. Due to severe trials i have suffered in the last year, I was unable to make the service meeting regularly. When I do go out in the ministry I am amazed at the response from householders, (it is their response to the spirit ), and do wish to be able to reach more of them, but being a single parent it is impossible for me to spend all my time in the ministry. There is much emphasis placed on the ministry, and very little attention given to the other 'works' that please Jehovah and should be a part of our daily life. In these I abound, but they are not considered worthy like a full time share in the ministry is, or being present for every meeting. I have learned to calm down a bit in my zeal for the scriptures and to be more quiet than outspoken. I hope that sticking it out will eventually help some to have a change of mind regarding me.

[arimatthewdavies]

Thank you shikinah and truthseeker for your posts, they touched my heart and are strengthening to me. Jehovah has given me much insight in the last year and a half and I am no slacker when it comes to the scriptures. For the first six months I was holed up in my house reading the scriptures for hours on end! I would be literally bubbling over to the elders at my hall about the things Jehovah was teaching me. The elders at my hall that are close to me do not doubt me due to this insight that i had suddenly acquired. However there is an encouraged thinking that you are spiritually weak if you cannot make every meeting. Due to severe trials i have suffered in the last year, I was unable to make the service meeting regularly. When I do go out in the ministry I am amazed at the response from householders, (it is their response to the spirit ), and do wish to be able to reach more of them, but being a single parent it is impossible for me to spend all my time in the ministry. There is much emphasis placed on the ministry, and very little attention given to the other 'works' that please Jehovah and should be a part of our daily life. In these I abound, but they are not considered worthy like a full time share in the ministry is, or being present for every meeting. I have learned to calm down a bit in my zeal for the scriptures and to be more quiet than outspoken. I hope that sticking it out will eventually help some to have a change of mind regarding me.

if i was to be judged by jehovah on how much of a
jehovah wittness i am based on how many meetings i do,id be in deep guano! but brothers and sisters realize the meetings are not what makes you a good jehovahs wittness nor is it how many literatures you place , its not about who throws the most seeds[dont quote the i planted but jehovah makes it grow] its being so jesus reflecting real that strangers you never met before cross the street to talk to you! because they know that you know jesus. its about walking into a room of screaming kids and suddenly peace breaks out! and you get a chance to break out the old orange paridise book oh how i can aplaud the brother in the wheelchair who makes 100 times more people interested in jesus! the sister who cant make the meetings but she took a bowl of soup over to ms sick neighbor! forgive me for jumping on your conversation uninvited but you just dont know how much jehovah apreciates you
or how much i look up to people that tough it out if i had my heavenly paycheck now its people like you that would make mine look small,

[steff]

As they refuse to speak to me I can only guess. Since others have told me their reasons for being judgmental, I will list them. One is my age, I am younger than what is expected. Another is that I have been told i do not have the appropriate 'works', namely I am not a pioneer or some other outstanding contributer to the ministry. Though I am regular in the field ministry I am not 'outstanding'. In fact I am not outstanding in any way, according to many in my congregation. I quoted 1 Corinthians 1:26-31, in a letter to some who were suggesting i did not have proper 'qualifications'. I doubt it will matter though.I am willing to pick up my torture stake and trudge through the mass of scorn and indignation. There are a few loving ones in my hall who have stood by my side despite the opinions of the many, which is truly a blessing from Jehovah. I can withstand it alone but having a friend by my side helps immensely.

Hello GM,
I believe you can with Jehovah's help overcome these difficulties.
I don't want to sound silly but I have to ask you something. I know all the things from the Bible and watchtowers how the Chosen Ones know that they are chosen by God's Spirit. But I don't comprehend that really. Could you try to explain that like to the stupid (me)? I always wanted to ask Robert that question but there wasn't the right moment.
Thank you,
steff

[shikinah]

Thank you shikinah and truthseeker for your posts, they touched my heart and are strengthening to me. Jehovah has given me much insight in the last year and a half and I am no slacker when it comes to the scriptures. For the first six months I was holed up in my house reading the scriptures for hours on end! I would be literally bubbling over to the elders at my hall about the things Jehovah was teaching me. The elders at my hall that are close to me do not doubt me due to this insight that i had suddenly acquired. However there is an encouraged thinking that you are spiritually weak if you cannot make every meeting. Due to severe trials i have suffered in the last year, I was unable to make the service meeting regularly. When I do go out in the ministry I am amazed at the response from householders, (it is their response to the spirit ), and do wish to be able to reach more of them, but being a single parent it is impossible for me to spend all my time in the ministry. There is much emphasis placed on the ministry, and very little attention given to the other 'works' that please Jehovah and should be a part of our daily life. In these I abound, but they are not considered worthy like a full time share in the ministry is, or being present for every meeting. I have learned to calm down a bit in my zeal for the scriptures and to be more quiet than outspoken. I hope that sticking it out will eventually help some to have a change of mind regarding me.

I remember going through a phase of deep research, and my daughter was going on a works seminar for a few days in the country and asked if I wanted to join her. The whole of that time night and day I read the bible, I couldnt put it down. My daughter said i was causing concern, as her collegues were wondering what was taking up so much of my time. So I know that fixated feeling and I understand the difficulty of being a single parent and getting to meetings, but hold on in there sister, what wont kill you will make you stronger:)

[FutureMan]

Thank you shikinah and truthseeker for your posts, they touched my heart and are strengthening to me. Jehovah has given me much insight in the last year and a half and I am no slacker when it comes to the scriptures. For the first six months I was holed up in my house reading the scriptures for hours on end! I would be literally bubbling over to the elders at my hall about the things Jehovah was teaching me. The elders at my hall that are close to me do not doubt me due to this insight that i had suddenly acquired. However there is an encouraged thinking that you are spiritually weak if you cannot make every meeting. Due to severe trials i have suffered in the last year, I was unable to make the service meeting regularly. When I do go out in the ministry I am amazed at the response from householders, (it is their response to the spirit ), and do wish to be able to reach more of them, but being a single parent it is impossible for me to spend all my time in the ministry. There is much emphasis placed on the ministry, and very little attention given to the other 'works' that please Jehovah and should be a part of our daily life. In these I abound, but they are not considered worthy like a full time share in the ministry is, or being present for every meeting. I have learned to calm down a bit in my zeal for the scriptures and to be more quiet than outspoken. I hope that sticking it out will eventually help some to have a change of mind regarding me.

It appears to me that even if the brothers and sisters are aware of this scripture, that it is ignored over and over again.

(Luke 21) [LITV]
1 And having looked up, He saw the rich ones putting their gifts into the treasury.
2 And He also saw a certain poor widow putting two lepta there.
3 And He said, Truly I say to you, This poor widow put in more than all.
4 For all these out of their abundance put into the gifts to God, but she out of her poverty put in all the living which she had.

[greymourning]

It appears to me that even if the brothers and sisters are aware of this scripture, that it is ignored over and over again.

(Luke 21) [LITV]
1 And having looked up, He saw the rich ones putting their gifts into the treasury.
2 And He also saw a certain poor widow putting two lepta there.
3 And He said, Truly I say to you, This poor widow put in more than all.
4 For all these out of their abundance put into the gifts to God, but she out of her poverty put in all the living which she had.



That thought brought tears to my eyes, thank you so much for that. Sometimes a person may not have much to give like everyone else but if they have no money and struggle with little time, they give of their hearts and souls and fight so hard to serve Jehovah with the little that they have. Its may not be such an outward show for everyone to notice, but is certainly deeply meaningful to Jehovah. And to Steff, being anointed is like getting married one moment you are a single person navigating the world and the next you are married, with a whole new world of things to discover. The reason I use the example of marriage is that you cannont 'imagine' that you are married, or be confused as to whether you are married or not. It is also like being transferred to a new school, with so much exciting new things to learn and ponder. It is not something you could ever be unsure of as it doesn't spring from your thoughts or actions. It comes directly from Jehovah, he changes you and begins to teach you. Along with that, at least for me also came severe persecution and a loss of much of what I had in a monetary way. Jehovah has provided for me continuously the things i needed at the right time. So I live very simply and depend on him.

[steff]

That thought brought tears to my eyes, thank you so much for that. Sometimes a person may not have much to give like everyone else but if they have no money and struggle with little time, they give of their hearts and souls and fight so hard to serve Jehovah with the little that they have. Its may not be such an outward show for everyone to notice, but is certainly deeply meaningful to Jehovah. And to Steff, being anointed is like getting married one moment you are a single person navigating the world and the next you are married, with a whole new world of things to discover. The reason I use the example of marriage is that you cannont 'imagine' that you are married, or be confused as to whether you are married or not. It is also like being transferred to a new school, with so much exciting new things to learn and ponder. It is not something you could ever be unsure of as it doesn't spring from your thoughts or actions. It comes directly from Jehovah, he changes you and begins to teach you. Along with that, at least for me also came severe persecution and a loss of much of what I had in a monetary way. Jehovah has provided for me continuously the things i needed at the right time. So I live very simply and depend on him.


Hello GM!

Thank you for sharing it must be so incredible.... you hold on tight to Jehovah and you never need anything more.
take care of yourself,
steff
:)