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James
06-10-2010, 07:04 PM
Governing Body member Ted Jaracz has died.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/194471/1/Theodore-Jaracz-of-the-Governing-Body-died-this-morning


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Theodore Jaracz was born in 1925. He was baptized sometime in the 40s.
He frequented the Gilead school of the Watchtower (missionary school of Jehovah's Witnesses) and then was sent to Australia, where he was circuit and district overseer. In 1951 Jaracz was appointed branch overseer of Australia.
Sometime in 1955/1956, after having been in Australia for 5 years, he returned to the United States, where he made the circuit overseer service.
On November 28, 1974, he was appointed to the Governing Body


agape,
James

Nash
06-11-2010, 10:30 PM
I have a feeling his maker is/was not pleased with him.

Nash

uglyandthin
06-12-2010, 01:27 AM
Governing Body member Ted Jaracz has died.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/194471/1/Theodore-Jaracz-of-the-Governing-Body-died-this-morning


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Theodore Jaracz was born in 1925. He was baptized sometime in the 40s.
He frequented the Gilead school of the Watchtower (missionary school of Jehovah's Witnesses) and then was sent to Australia, where he was circuit and district overseer. In 1951 Jaracz was appointed branch overseer of Australia.
Sometime in 1955/1956, after having been in Australia for 5 years, he returned to the United States, where he made the circuit overseer service.
On November 28, 1974, he was appointed to the Governing Body


agape,
James

Hi All:

If my memory serves me correctly, he was involved in some sort of scandal while he was Branch overseer in Australia and was sent packing back to the U.S.. Don't know if it was the brothers in Australia that bought him his one way ticket or the Big Boys at Bethel who sponsored his return, but whatever transpired in Australia that was severe enough to sack the Branch Overseer, it was covered up very nicely and very tightly. Barb Anderson could probably shed some light on this issue. I think I read about this in one of her pieces. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!

uglyandthin

watchman
06-12-2010, 05:08 PM
My thoughts on Jaracz and a video clip of "The Boss" in action on the new watchman blog, uh, make that Jehovah's Witnesses Blog (http://watchman-4jehovahs-witnesses.blogspot.com/)

uglyandthin
06-12-2010, 06:04 PM
My thoughts on Jaracz and a video clip of "The Boss" in action on the new watchman blog, uh, make that Jehovah's Witnesses Blog (http://watchman-4jehovahs-witnesses.blogspot.com/)

Hi Watchman:

Don't think Teddy got off easy at all. He is where he belongs and he will be there for a long time I suppose.

uglyandthin

Nightflyer
06-12-2010, 10:49 PM
The governing body is getting smaller and smaller.. just 8 members left and Barr is 97. It will be interesting to see when some new members are appointed, and who they are. And especially, how young they are...

FutureMan
06-13-2010, 12:46 AM
The governing body is getting smaller and smaller.. just 8 members left and Barr is 97. It will be interesting to see when some new members are appointed, and who they are. And especially, how young they are...

Hi Nightflyer, it is good to have you back on this forum.

uglyandthin
06-13-2010, 01:17 AM
The governing body is getting smaller and smaller.. just 8 members left and Barr is 97. It will be interesting to see when some new members are appointed, and who they are. And especially, how young they are...

Hi Nightflyer:

It will be interesting to see if the GB without Teddy baby will be more considerate to the sheep. He really does, or "did" fit the description of the "Man of Lawlessness" in Revelation. I know that this could be the evil slave in it's entirety, but he really did set himself up in the temple of God as God. He was not known as the "Boss" for no reason. Now that he is "out of the way" who knows what changes are in store for JW's. Perhaps even a public proclamation of repentance over both the U.N. debacle and the child molestation travesty. I am not holding my breath though, but who knows, there may be some on the GB that actually have a godly conscience that is more important to them than their power and prestige. I hope that is so.

uglyandthin

James
06-13-2010, 02:29 AM
My thoughts on Jaracz and a video clip of "The Boss" in action on the new watchman blog, uh, make that Jehovah's Witnesses Blog (http://watchman-4jehovahs-witnesses.blogspot.com/)

I'm going to cherry-pick the lyrics but, I'm guessing most will recognize WHO the band is. lol

And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

Smile and grin at the change all around me

We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again

Change it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fall that's all

But the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed

And I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive

I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie

Do ya?

And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right


Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss


agape,
James

Nightflyer
06-13-2010, 08:51 AM
Hi Nightflyer:

Perhaps even a public proclamation of repentance over both the U.N. debacle and the child molestation travesty. I am not holding my breath though, but who knows, there may be some on the GB that actually have a godly conscience that is more important to them than their power and prestige. I hope that is so.

uglyandthin

Hi Futureman and others,

Yeah, hopefully someone of them will have "a crisis of conscience".. though I doubt that will ever happen. Some of them seem quite nice, like that Australian fellow Jackson who just lost his wife. And Loesch has admitted that the GB has made mistakes and that there are things in our publications that need to be changed. On the other hand, Pierce supposedly disfellowshiped child abuse victims when he was a CO..

Utuna
06-13-2010, 07:58 PM
Hi Nightflyer:

It will be interesting to see if the GB without Teddy baby will be more considerate to the sheep. He really does, or "did" fit the description of the "Man of Lawlessness" in Revelation. I know that this could be the evil slave in it's entirety, but he really did set himself up in the temple of God as God. He was not known as the "Boss" for no reason. Now that he is "out of the way" who knows what changes are in store for JW's. Perhaps even a public proclamation of repentance over both the U.N. debacle and the child molestation travesty. I am not holding my breath though, but who knows, there may be some on the GB that actually have a godly conscience that is more important to them than their power and prestige. I hope that is so.

uglyandthin

Dear U&T,

I have the same hope as you regarding :

1) the future decisions of the GB on vital doctrinal issues

2) the real spiritual qualities of its prospective future members and their behaviour regarding :
- the beaten up sheep within the organisation

- the place and/or credence given to the newly anointed b/s
Time will tell !

No matter the outcome, let Jehovah's will take place.


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Interestingly, when I told my family (who are rank and file JWs) about the death of T. Jaracz, they replied : "Ah ouais? peut être..." lol

It means : "uh? maybe..."

Millions of JWs are daily influenced by a handful of people about whom they know nothing and about whom they don't care much on personal grounds...

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"Le sectarisme des jugements pauvres lui tenait quelquefois lieu de volonté" - Hervé Bazin
"J'ai pétri de la boue et j'en ai fait de l'or" - Charles Baudelaire
"S'il m'a été donné de voir un peu plus loin que les autres, c'est que je me tenais sur les épaules de géants" - Isaac Newton

Utuna
06-13-2010, 08:03 PM
Hi Nightflyer, it is good to have you back on this forum.

I think the same ! Welcome back aboard Nightflyer !

Tu nous as manqué !

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"Le sectarisme des jugements pauvres lui tenait quelquefois lieu de volonté" - Hervé Bazin
"J'ai pétri de la boue et j'en ai fait de l'or" - Charles Baudelaire
"S'il m'a été donné de voir un peu plus loin que les autres, c'est que je me tenais sur les épaules de géants" - Isaac Newton

Anthony
06-13-2010, 09:45 PM
Two thoughts...


1.Why is it that individuals know what the scriptures say, regarding the condition Jesus will find his household at the time of his inspection and still go on and on about how they need to repent and straighten up now?


2. I think my head is going to explode. I cannot stand the pure idiocy of those in that video and others that really think that WTS should have to be the ones to report such allegations. I have said this over and over again in other post, that it is the parents that should report it to the police.

The stupid lady reported said at the beginning of the clip while on the phone “why do they report it to the office instead of the police?” Likewise, why to the victims or parents of them report it to the elders and not the police? And then that ugly crater face guy says, “They are living in denial of what’s happening to their children” No it is not their children, therefore the ones to whom they are children of need to take the action. Then going on to say, “as long as they don’t admit it, they will just let children go on being molested and not do anything about it.” Again, how in the heck are the parents not the ones letting their child get molested or allowing it to go unreported?

I don’t doubt for a second that the WTS down plays what happens and tries to keep it on the down low for a number of reasons, but how they choose to deal with it has nothing to do with how a loving parent who is responsible for the child should deal with it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Utuna
06-14-2010, 04:56 AM
Two thoughts...

1.Why is it that individuals know what the scriptures say, regarding the condition Jesus will find his household at the time of his inspection and still go on and on about how they need to repent and straighten up now?

Dear Anthony,

Yes, you're right !

Please read : "In that case, how would the Scriptures be fulfilled that it must take place this way?" - (Mat26:54)

On the other hand, on an individual basis regarding the members of the GB, we can't wish them such a bad fate as the one recorded in the Scriptures.

Please read : "...but he is patient with YOU because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance." (2Pe3:9)

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"Le sectarisme des jugements pauvres lui tenait quelquefois lieu de volonté" - Hervé Bazin
"J'ai pétri de la boue et j'en ai fait de l'or" - Charles Baudelaire
"S'il m'a été donné de voir un peu plus loin que les autres, c'est que je me tenais sur les épaules de géants" - Isaac Newton

Nash
06-14-2010, 06:46 AM
Hi Anthony,

With respect to your second point, under normal circumstances and 'in the real world' you would be right. I agree with you - the parents should report it to the police, and then let the appropriate personnel and professionals deal with the situation.

Because of the cultlike atmosphere and envirnment in the congregations, the parents are usually quasi-forced to not report it to the police for two reasons:

a) to protect the false and illusory spiritual paradise that they have constructed; and

b) to 'protect' the organization.

Throughout their history, the Watchtower have built up this fantasy of a spiritual paradise in which members are led to believe that all is rosy in the congregations. Incidentally, many witnesses are faced with staggering contradictions which create much cognitive dissonance. After all, if the Watchtower tells us that there are no bad people in the congregations, and they spew this lie to the world through communicative means via public talks and the magazines, why would they, in their view, want the world to know about issues in the congregations? Of course, the world can see the hypocrisy anyway, but the Watchtower has become so deluded and so detached from reality that their reasoning in many areas makes no sense anyway (just look at the recent generation teaching). So they 'leave it to Jehovah' and go on doing what they have always done in the ways that they usually do it, and more people get hurt needlessly.

The Watchtower has also used much legalistic trickery when it comes to slander. As far as the law is concerned, slander usually means that someone has falsely accused someone of something and the slanderer can be proven wrong. Unfortunately, in the Watchtower world, they have changed the definition of slander to mean something or anything bad that is uttered against an individual, among other things. This of course ties in to other areas of congregational life, a good example being that if an elder has accusations against him he cannot serve as an elder. I could go on for a time about such subjects, but this is the general idea. In any case, the parent who is accusing the molester could be disfellowshipped for slander, or even for 'bringing reproach on the organization.'

The Watchtower organization doesn't think properly. It is completely self-serving and arrogant. Bill Bowen is correct when he states that the Watchtower doesn't want to admit that there is a problem. Why would they? To admit they have a problem would concede the fact that they don't have the holy spirit, they are not guided by Jehovah, and that they mishandled a plethora of cases. Of course, the fact that they are not guied by holy spirit is obvious; admitting guilt would create further issues by opening themselves up to even more scrutiny and lawsuits.

I'm sure you're statements/questions were rhetorical - I thought I would state my thoughts just for the record - especially for people reading who may have doubts. Hope you don't mind. :)

I'm glad Robert put up that video - I saw most, if not all of it years ago. When I heard Jaracz speak to the reporter my instincts immediately told me that this guy was a cold and arrogant man. There was some speculation that he himself was a child molester. I don't think anything was ever proven. However, if it was true, it wouldn't surprise me.

Nash

FutureMan
06-14-2010, 07:13 AM
Hi Anthony,


Because of the cultlike atmosphere and envirnment in the congregations, the parents are usually quasi-forced to not report it to the police for two reasons:

a) to protect the false and illusory spiritual paradise that they have constructed; and

b) to 'protect' the organization.

Nash

An interesting point, because when you look at the history of ancient Israel and their position before God as to sanctifying his name, Justice to those wronged was very prominent in God's law.

So as I understand it, to God, justice and the sanctification of his name, goes hand and hand.

Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed not only for their immoral depravity, but for their injustices that was committed inside the boundaries of those two cities.

They not only committed injustices to outsiders as illustrated by their attack on God's two angels when inside Lot's house as guests, but also this was perpetrated on their own inhabitants.

Will it be any difference today when it comes to God's justice and the organization that is portrayed today as God's people?

I don't think so :mad: