Revelation Book Study

[fruitage]

Hello Friends....hope that you are well

I just got back from the book study in the Rev. book...it was the first in 2 yrs....it was so good to be back and among my brothers and sisters...many hugs from the sisters and hand shakes from the brothers....it was like I had never left for the 2 yrs.

We started in the first chapter of the Rev book.and so much good information was brought out...so much I've forgotten and good to have it refreshed in my memory....

Brought out how apocalypse in Greek ...means a revealing or revelation..

If memory serves me...the new modified book has included the 6 (?) visions John had....and more pictures and graphs...one of the sisters has an extra one for me..

Things lately just were not making sense anymore scripturally....and scince returning I see how much I had forgotten.

There really has to be someone teaching us..and for things to be cohesive within the congregation...of course all through Holy Spirit....I'm thrilled and excited to be back and to start studying the book of Revelation.

The study conductor brought out how certainly we don't have it all right...but when we get better understanding....we study on it.

I marked down one of the scriptures we read

PS 37:10-11...And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be

but the meek ones will possess the earth,and they will find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.

Take Care

[barry]

Hi Fruitage,

I'm happy that everything went fine on the bookstudy.
I haven't been able to go to meetings for some time now and I'm really looking forward to go again.
There is always something to learn at meetings and to enjoy the brotherhood.

[Cephalon]

I still go to the meeting regularly but this is one book I'm not looking forward to study.
Fruitage, I am happy that you went back and everything went fine. There will be good and bad moments and comments. Try to get the most out of the good ones.

[DoubtingThomas]

I wish I could go to the meetings. I miss them (and the association).
I have been hooking into the meetings from home for the last three years with a telephone hookup, because I have a chronic illness (Multiple Chemical Sensitivities) which prevents me from going to the Kingdom Hall. Sometimes you don't really appreciate something you have until you loose it. And recently I lost that privilege. The elders told me that I could no longer call in before the meetings for a telephone hookup. This happened because I moved a few months ago, and now I am a few miles outside my congregations official territory boundary. So I am stuck out in the wilderness right now (not counting this little spiritual paradise here, this forum). So I don't know where Jehovah wants me to be right now. I am praying for His guidance and direction. Should I attempt to go to another congregation? How can I get my magazines and KM each month? I know I have to continue getting these on a regular basis. I need them, and I see that many here do not get their magazines. I don't ever want to be in that position of being cut off entirely from the organization. I don't mind being on the fringes or outskirts of the org. and considered "weak" by others. But I don't want to be cut off entirely. So far all of you that can I would encourage you to continue or go back to the meetings if possible.

[Shibboleth]

I wish I could go to the meetings. I miss them (and the association).
I have been hooking into the meetings from home for the last three years with a telephone hookup, because I have a chronic illness (Multiple Chemical Sensitivities) which prevents me from going to the Kingdom Hall. Sometimes you don't really appreciate something you have until you loose it. And recently I lost that privilege. The elders told me that I could no longer call in before the meetings for a telephone hookup. This happened because I moved a few months ago, and now I am a few miles outside my congregations official territory boundary. So I am stuck out in the wilderness right now (not counting this little spiritual paradise here, this forum).[/b]

That is really sad that the brothers couldn't accomodate you because you are now officially out of their territory. I don't know what your position is in the hall (df'd, inactive or otherwise), but if they knew your circumstances that means they are totally lacking in the very spirit Jesus told us to have and that is to love one another. I would definitly call those elders and ask them since they cut you off from spiritual things how do you think Jehovah feels about this matter. Ask them if they prayed on the matter, since this is the way they deal with everything in the hall.

If you are not in our hall's territory you can't get any help or listen to our meetings. What a bogus excuse.

regards,

Shibboleth

[fruitage]

Hi Fruitage,

I'm happy that everything went fine on the bookstudy.
I haven't been able to go to meetings for some time now and I'm really looking forward to go again.
There is always something to learn at meetings and to enjoy the brotherhood.[/b]

Hi Again Barry...yes...there is always something to learn....I hope you can get back and have association ....I didn't realize how very much we need association....and this is our whole obligation to our brothers and sisters to keep them encouraged and upbuilt...

Take Care

your sis

[fruitage]

I still go to the meeting regularly but this is one book I'm not looking forward to study.
Fruitage, I am happy that you went back and everything went fine. There will be good and bad moments and comments. Try to get the most out of the good ones.[/b]


Hello Cephalon....I'm sorry to hear your not looking forward to the Rev. book...what is the reason may I ask....

[fruitage]

I wish I could go to the meetings. I miss them (and the association).
I have been hooking into the meetings from home for the last three years with a telephone hookup, because I have a chronic illness (Multiple Chemical Sensitivities) which prevents me from going to the Kingdom Hall. Sometimes you don't really appreciate something you have until you loose it. And recently I lost that privilege. The elders told me that I could no longer call in before the meetings for a telephone hookup. This happened because I moved a few months ago, and now I am a few miles outside my congregations official territory boundary. So I am stuck out in the wilderness right now (not counting this little spiritual paradise here, this forum). So I don't know where Jehovah wants me to be right now. I am praying for His guidance and direction. Should I attempt to go to another congregation? How can I get my magazines and KM each month? I know I have to continue getting these on a regular basis. I need them, and I see that many here do not get their magazines. I don't ever want to be in that position of being cut off entirely from the organization. I don't mind being on the fringes or outskirts of the org. and considered "weak" by others. But I don't want to be cut off entirely. So far all of you that can I would encourage you to continue or go back to the meetings if possible.[/b]

Hi Thomas....if you have moved....and are outside of that territory....it seems maybe you should be in another KH's territory....I hope so...

Take care of yourself

[Criterion]

I wish I could go to the meetings. I miss them (and the association).
I have been hooking into the meetings from home for the last three years with a telephone hookup, because I have a chronic illness (Multiple Chemical Sensitivities) which prevents me from going to the Kingdom Hall. Sometimes you don't really appreciate something you have until you loose it. And recently I lost that privilege. The elders told me that I could no longer call in before the meetings for a telephone hookup. This happened because I moved a few months ago, and now I am a few miles outside my congregations official territory boundary. So I am stuck out in the wilderness right now (not counting this little spiritual paradise here, this forum). So I don't know where Jehovah wants me to be right now. I am praying for His guidance and direction. Should I attempt to go to another congregation? How can I get my magazines and KM each month? I know I have to continue getting these on a regular basis. I need them, and I see that many here do not get their magazines. I don't ever want to be in that position of being cut off entirely from the organization. I don't mind being on the fringes or outskirts of the org. and considered "weak" by others. But I don't want to be cut off entirely. So far all of you that can I would encourage you to continue or go back to the meetings if possible.[/b]

Good afternoon 'Thomas,'

The first thing I would recommend that you do is to ask your former congregation who you need to contact at the congregation in which territory you've found yourself. I'm guessing that the situation happened so unexpectedly, you may not have thought to ask. So, do that first. It may turn out that the territory your now in is even more favorable to your situation than was the former. For example, our Kingdom Hall actually has a room built for people with severe allergies and sensitivities, so that they can come to the KH and not feel left out. So, it's always possible that the new territory has that, especially if the congregation is made up of older ones.

Your current "status" is probably a factor here, and that's unfortunate. But be that as it may, if it's due to health circumstances, be sure to let the new congregation's elders know that. They've gotten to hear a lot of "excuses" and "cop-outs" from people over the years as to why people aren't going--and on the other side they have the Society and the CO looming over them, so if they seem insensitive to your situation, remember that and try to help them to appreciate your situation and soften their numbed stance. Remember, open kindness, words seasoned with salt, and unmistakable appreciation go a long way.

For the literature, again, this is something you'll need to discuss with the elders once you contact them. As a general rule, the friends are expected to at least try to pick up their own literature, from the Hall. But again, discuss this with the elders and it's always an option to have a pioneer who happens to be out your way maybe drop in and see you and leave you with some literature. But you may be the one expected to take the initiative, so be prepared for that possibility. What I would recommend, too, is that if you are able to phone in for a hookup for the meeting, pay close attention especially during the Watchtower study. Listen to the comments, and pay even closer mind to the names as they are called. As you get to knowing the friends' names in the new congregation, pray to Jehovah about your situation, and mention names to him, and then call the elders again and inquire if so-and-so might happen to be working in your area, if they could drop by and see you so you could thank them for their upbuilding meeting comments etc. And then, once you meet the brother or sister, do so, and use that as an opportunity to explain your situation and they may take it upon themselves to help. If not, persevere in prayer, mentioning names. Jehovah will see to it that your prayers don't go without results, but then He may want to see how convicted you are before that answer comes.

If push comes to shove, we'll form a group and bombard your congregation with phone calls, appealing for help in your behalf.

Keep us updated, brother. And we'll pray as well. You can PM me if there's anything I can do.

<div align="right">Criterion</div>

[DoubtingThomas]

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<span style="font-family:Verdana">But that is my story more or less. I am a man w/o a congregation at this point. I am in the wilderness and I am trying to decide what to do. But first I am going to wait to hear back from the Circuit Overseer.

[Shibboleth]

Thomas, that is real sad. I am only seeing your side, but I understand how you feel. It&#39;s real funny how prideful men get when they enter positions of power.

I don&#39;t know how extensive your medical problem is with perfumes and such, do you wear a facial or surgical style mask if/when you can go to meetings?

I would also check out the new hall you are in. Do what Criterion said. That was some good advice. Since you already know your publisher card went to the new hall, I would hit the elders up that sent it and ask them to give you the numbers of the P.O. and maybe a couple of other elders. Also, from having people tie-in on the phone in my hall, some are able to give prepared answers. If you do listen in to your new hall, prepare some answers to give at a watchtower meeting and let the watchtower conductor know about them. This will give them time to help prepare the Sound brother to know you will be answering. Also it may open up some of the others who listen in also. If they can&#39;t do this over the phone on their end, write out an answer and give it to one of the elders.

Regards,

Shibboleth

[juffowup]

Hello Cephalon....I&#39;m sorry to hear your not looking forward to the Rev. book...what is the reason may I ask....[/b]

I know many are put off by the strained interpretations of prophecy found throughout. I&#39;m included in that camp. BUT! The first few chapters of the book are pretty good, and I&#39;m looking forward to those, and I&#39;m going to try to tough out the rest. We&#39;ll see. :)

[DoubtingThomas]

Thank you Criterion and Shibboleth for the helpful advice. I can see that I am going to have some decisions to make on this very soon. But for now, I want to wait and see how the CO responds to my letter requesting him to speak with my elders about the matter. I hope he might be more accomodating and understanding of my situation than the elders are being.

[fruitage]

<div class='quotemain'>Hello Cephalon....I&#39;m sorry to hear your not looking forward to the Rev. book...what is the reason may I ask....[/b]

I know many are put off by the strained interpretations of prophecy found throughout. I&#39;m included in that camp. BUT! The first few chapters of the book are pretty good, and I&#39;m looking forward to those, and I&#39;m going to try to tough out the rest. We&#39;ll see. :)
[/b][/quote]

Hi juffowup...I&#39;m happy to hear that you enjoyed the first few chapters..

today at the book study....the study conductor was talking with some of the brothers and sisters about the number of times we have studied the Rev. book.....and he brought out how it by no means is correct complete understanding...but each time we study we learn something...I believe it was said this was the 4th time for studying it...and of course this time there are new things to learn...I especially like the thought of the 6 visions presented in the modified book and how we will go into those...of course I think thats the 19th chapter if memory serves me right...I&#39;m happy a sister is giving me her extra soft cover book...I wish I had it now...as I&#39;m eager to get into it.

The study conducter also said it would take 1 yr and a half to get through the book.....

Take care

[Excaliber]

The revelation book would be more cool...if they made it into a video. And we all got together as a bookstudy to watch a portion then we could ask questions at the end. That would make a great movie. It would be scary though.

each week 55 minuets of movie and 4 minuets of questions and 1 minuet for concluding.

YEA That would be great. :lol:

[Jinnvisible]

Meeting together with people is a spiritual thing. Like any family it is important to spend time together. I think a lot gets attributed to the literature which is not really `of` the literature. So when people get the benefits of feeling spiritually refreshed from a meeting or an assembly the accuracy of interpretation doesn’t really have much to do with it. Simply spending time with like minded people is enough to make you feel refreshed spiritually. I think this is what makes the congregations so vulnerable to false understanding. It only becomes disruptive when you truly understand that it is false. Then you are a black sheep.

[Jeshurun]

I wish I could go to the meetings. I miss them (and the association).
I have been hooking into the meetings from home for the last three years with a telephone hookup, because I have a chronic illness (Multiple Chemical Sensitivities) which prevents me from going to the Kingdom Hall.[/b]

Hi DT
Is "Multiple Chemical Sensitivities" the same as "environmental illness"? I have a close business associate with the latter, and a few years ago the condition caused pure havoc at our place of business. It was a nightmare during which I had drawn very close to Jehovah. He was there for me when I hadn&#39;t prayed for years. I called to him and he answered, a wonderful experience. Things turned around 180 degrees within 6 months, after we nearly killed each other.

My mother listens on the tie line, and she&#39;s been doing this for 13 years now. She&#39;s 80 years old and I recently brought e-Watchman to her. She loves her congregation but is not at all thrilled with the meetings. It&#39;s ironic that her congregation is fairly healthy spiritually, but the other one that shares the Kingdom Hall is in tough shape.

About your situation, if it were me, I think I would be looking forward to meeting some new friends at this point. It&#39;s really sad to hear how the friends are getting less friendlier everywhere. We have people from all over the world here, and I keep hearing the same thing. The ones I&#39;ve met here have given me the biggest spiritual boost I&#39;ve ever had, so I know and so do you all know that his Spirit has rested here upon us. I imagine he&#39;s about ready to step in, enough is enough. The sooner the war starts the sooner we have victory. I believe the insight here will give us a wonderful chance to make it. We&#39;ll be more prepared than anyone else. But there&#39;s a long way to go, many still have to find the escape hatch.

I love your attitude, Thomas. Glad you found us.
Lou

[Jeshurun]

The revelation book would be more cool...if they made it into a video. And we all got together as a bookstudy to watch a portion then we could ask questions at the end. That would make a great movie. It would be scary though.

each week 55 minuets of movie and 4 minuets of questions and 1 minuet for concluding.

YEA That would be great. :lol:[/b]

Hi Excaliber

I&#39;m laughing very hard right now so please take this from that aspect...

Scary? What? Cedar Point, Ohio? Rutherford? A few tracts? A radio show? :lol:

CT Russell, the Mason, there&#39;s a part I get a little antsy. :unsure:

The Wild Beasts would be scary, but how about a scene with a padlocked Kingdom Hall with plywood over the windows? (Er, window, sorry, you know, the little one behind the coats)

Unfortunately we&#39;d have to produce the film based on their version of the book, which would make it pretty much a mundane documentary based on a myth, a very definite B-Flick. Not Cannes material. Now if we produced it by let&#39;s say, the rendition from Watchman&#39;s book, they&#39;d sledgehammer the DVD machine and escort us to the door before we got, lets say, 6 minutes into it. :o

Thanks for lightening the mood

Lou

[Kenneth]

Hi Thomas
Sorry to here your story, yes you are right some of the younger ones from the MTS are a bit to zealous for their own good. I really can&#39;t figure some elders out and their line of reason. I remember some years ago not long after I came into the truth a situation happened and the elder wanted to make a big issue out of it, in actual fact I&#39;d done nothing wrong ,But he was like a dog with a bone, so I sat there let him have his say, took the so-called counsel on board and left it at that. Had I protested and I had every right to do so things could have got a little out of control. When I severed as an elder I kind of let the Brother&#39;s alone and never went nitpicking, if they did something wrong then fare enough but most of the time I left them to it and never played the spiritual policeman. I have every respect of the elders and I know what difficulties they face, but as for the younger overzealous ones well I&#39;ll say no more……………..

Fruitage

Good to have you at the meeting, it sound as if you were encourage and benefited greatly. My way of approaching this book like so many others is to enjoy the beginning that&#39;s the best part and take the rest as it comes. Try to look upon the rest of the book as a history lesson in the twentieth of JWs 1870-1914……………onwards.

P.S Thomas if you can&#39;t get the mags PM me and I will send them to you in the post.

kenneth

[fruitage]

Goodmorning Kenneth...hope you are well this day.

Thankyou for your encouragement.....I have been away from the meetings for 2 yrs....and just could never make the move to another religious affiliation....and I hungered to gather together...and I missed my brothers and sisters...and the thought occurred to me....I could endure all the things wrong within the WTS.....but could not endure sitting through a sermon on a burning hell..or a sermon on how Jesus is Jehovah..or on other similar subjects.

I will make the best of the arrangement of the WTS....knowing in this system there can be no perfect anything.

I do hope and pray for all to endure through this dark night and into the glorious future in store for us....the largest part of the things I hold dear and believe in are with the WTS....

What I&#39;ve been doing for the past 2 yrs is what I should have done before I got babtized....making sure of all things....I did that now I&#39;m ready to move forward and wait on Jehovah and Jesus to make all things right.

I look forward to the studies and the field service ..an arrangement already put in place for us.....I feel resolved, at peace and resolute.

My daughters for the last 2 yrs told me how happy I was when I was going to the meetings...and how in the past 2 yrs I just did not seem happy anymore....I feel my joy coming back...and an eager expectation returning.

I hope all are able to find peace and resolution in Jehovah the only true God and in Christ Jesus the one who died for us.

The way I was going..I had all this garble of miss matched thoughts and understandings and ideas going on in my head...and I was coming to a state of turmoil and being tossed about as the waves, from here and there....now I&#39;m feeling grounded again.

much peace and prayers for all to endure

your sis

[Kenneth]

Hi Fruitage

I&#39;m glad you are finding some peace. Fruitage&#39;s example in my opinion are the results of the positive steps made by the contribution of others in the past week. Thus positively instead of negativity have their rewards as its good to be with the brother/sisters. I won&#39;t pretend the meetings are easy, but with good preparation one can find positive things to say and take in during the programme.

So well-done Fruitage you may well set a trend.



Kenneth :) </span></span> </span>

[fruitage]

Hi Kenneth...to tell you the truth I just don&#39;t think I can take anymore negativity and second guessing everything and picking it apart and I fed on a steady diet for 2 yrs...no wonder my daughters kept telling me....that I wasn&#39;t happy anymore.....

Hopefully all the brothers and sisters can become upbuilt by association with the congregations...there is more good there than bad in most cases...and I would say give it a try , if at all possible right now for the ones who have found there just is no where else to go...of course we know we are always in Christ Jesus and our Father....and ultimately all religious institutions will be gone....

Well I&#39;ve got to go for now, and get ready to go into town ....

Take of yourselves

your sis

[Jeshurun]

Hi Fruitage

I think its really wonderful that you went back, and I hope my joking doesn&#39;t upset you. It&#39;s very difficult for me to keep my mouth shut when it comes to this, because I have a burning inside of me for my fellow Witnesses to know the truth about what&#39;s coming, so they can be prepared. I cling to the hope that many are catching on and just not saying anything. Of course they can&#39;t say anything because they&#39;ll be whisked into the back room immediately. I feel that the worst thing any religion can do is to keep God-given warnings from them. I would love to go to the next big assembly and grab the mmicrophone and tell everybody about the concentration camps that are being built, for anyone who defies the demands of worship of the coming global government, Satan&#39;s counterfeit version of God&#39;s Kingdom. You know that means us. They are planning everything as we speak. I&#39;ve seen pictures of a giant camp being set up in the south, where they already have signs in Russian for the Russian troops to train alongside American troops for the purpose of enforcing martial law. Had flight 93 hit the Capitol as they planned, this would have happened already but Jehovah didn&#39;t allow it. Jehovah is on top of everything making sure that it goes according to his schedule, not theirs, and the coming terrible time is sanctioned by him so that he can settle the legal case and put an end to Satan&#39;s world once and for all.

Your story is an encouragement to everyone.
Lou

[Cephalon]

Hi Fruitage

Your story is an encouragement to everyone.
Lou[/b]

Yes Fruitage, as Lou said, your story is truly an encouragement to everyone.

[Kenneth]

Jeshurun it seems we have the same ideas we both want to blurt it out. I have gone through it in my mind time and again. If I could only have 45 minutes on the platform I think I could get it all out. I&#39;ve pretty much thought of what I&#39;m going to say and I think I can put it across in a palatable way without crushing the brother too much. I don&#39;t think we will ever get that opportunity though on such a grand scale. Nevertheless it will either be on a one-to- one basis or in a small group that we will get the opportunity to do so as many will want answers as to why the Watchtower collapsed, it was never meant to be they&#39;ll say.

Also think of the witnessing you will be able to do in the concentration camps, only this time you will be able to tell the whole story, in other words the truth of the matter.

Kenneth

[Londoner]

Hi fruitage :)


I went to the Book Study last night (Tuesday) for the coverage of the first chapter. I enjoyed the association (in a sister&#39;s house) and the sense of Jehovah&#39;s spirit being there.

However, the first few chapters are good, but when we get to the WT&#39;s interpretation of the pouring out of the bowls (conventions, revolutions, tract campaigns), it will be difficult to keep a straight face. I will be praying hard for the fruitage of mildness and self-control.


Londoner

[fruitage]

Hi Fruitage

I think its really wonderful that you went back, and I hope my joking doesn&#39;t upset you. It&#39;s very difficult for me to keep my mouth shut when it comes to this, because I have a burning inside of me for my fellow Witnesses to know the truth about what&#39;s coming, so they can be prepared. I cling to the hope that many are catching on and just not saying anything. Of course they can&#39;t say anything because they&#39;ll be whisked into the back room immediately. I feel that the worst thing any religion can do is to keep God-given warnings from them. I would love to go to the next big assembly and grab the mmicrophone and tell everybody about the concentration camps that are being built, for anyone who defies the demands of worship of the coming global government, Satan&#39;s counterfeit version of God&#39;s Kingdom. You know that means us. They are planning everything as we speak. I&#39;ve seen pictures of a giant camp being set up in the south, where they already have signs in Russian for the Russian troops to train alongside American troops for the purpose of enforcing martial law. Had flight 93 hit the Capitol as they planned, this would have happened already but Jehovah didn&#39;t allow it. Jehovah is on top of everything making sure that it goes according to his schedule, not theirs, and the coming terrible time is sanctioned by him so that he can settle the legal case and put an end to Satan&#39;s world once and for all.

Your story is an encouragement to everyone.
Lou[/b]

Hi Jeshurun....I remember many years ago the WTS bringing out how there would be marshall law declared during the GT....and we know these things are coming upon us...and the place I feel safe is in Jehovah and Christ Jesus...and with my brothers and sisters ..

Stay strong and endure Jeshurun...we also get strength from one another.

your sis

[fruitage]

<div class='quotemain'>Hi Fruitage

Your story is an encouragement to everyone.
Lou[/b]

Yes Fruitage, as Lou said, your story is truly an encouragement to everyone.
[/b][/quote]

Hi Cepahalon...it was ones as yourself too who encouraged me...

Take Care of yourself

[fruitage]

Hi fruitage :)


I went to the Book Study last night (Tuesday) for the coverage of the first chapter. I enjoyed the association (in a sister&#39;s house) and the sense of Jehovah&#39;s spirit being there.

However, the first few chapters are good, but when we get to the WT&#39;s interpretation of the pouring out of the bowls (conventions, revolutions, tract campaigns), it will be difficult to keep a straight face. I will be praying hard for the fruitage of mildness and self-control.


Londoner[/b]

Hi London....I too enjoyed the 1st chapter...I&#39;m waiting for my book..a sister shared her book with me for the book study...hopefully I&#39;ll have mine before the next study....

The thing we have to remember as the study conducter pointed out...when referring to the book...its not all right..but we still study

We know we will endure in Jehovah and Christ and know there is no perfect brother or sister...not possible right at this point to have a perfect anything in a crumbling system..its days are numbered to Jehovah and Christ and soon all vestiges of this system will be gone...

Take care of yourself brother

[Criterion]

Our bookstudy is tomorrow evening, so I guess I&#39;ll be relaying my experiences soon after. But as so many of you already noted, the first few chapters are "safe" compared to the ones after that, and therefore shouldn&#39;t post too many issues for us "in the know."

Let&#39;s remember one another in our prayers that Jehovah give more than the usual of his holy spirit to help us through.

<div align="right">Criterion</div>

[fruitage]

Our bookstudy is tomorrow evening, so I guess I&#39;ll be relaying my experiences soon after. But as so many of you already noted, the first few chapters are "safe" compared to the ones after that, and therefore shouldn&#39;t post too many issues for us "in the know."

Let&#39;s remember one another in our prayers that Jehovah give more than the usual of his holy spirit to help us through.

<div align="right">Criterion[/b][/quote]

Hello Criterion...I hope all goes well....we can never go wrong studying the bible..the thing though that really bothers you is when you want to express a different understanding...but can&#39;t...I guess though its needed to keep some sort of cohesiveness and order...

Take care