Forward Going

[clay]

Hello DBoarders,
New here, bravely/boldly joining your group after reading on & off for some past months. I initially read some of RK essays and was shot in my heart with the information. ! What ? What happened ? How could this Be? Could it even Be? Is this Jehovahs Org? Was it ever? Should I stay? Should I go? Go? Where would I go ? those initial times are foundational shaking, but I'm still here (in the cong). I finally concluded this is not an apostate site. How blindly I've gone along for years & years. I grown to really appreciate that many here present mature balanced and scriptural viewpoints, and I especially like hearing of you who are still involved within the congregation, if your circumstances make that possible. Those of you who are not able my heart goes out for the injustices you've suffered at the hands of men and yet you remain faithful to Jehovah and our Lord and Master Christ Jesus. How that encourages !
So at the risk of being disloyal, disobedient and disciplined I joined you with the anonminity the internet allows. ! Hooray for the internet!

I currently am fully involved with the congregation and have the appointed position of reg pio. My ministry has evolved to using primarily the Bible, few WT mags, but am more generous with the Awake mags. On studies I conduct I use the paragraph/book as a general outline, but take along a sticky note with Scriptures that emphasize the more important points. I have yet to cross the bridge of explaining 1914, and am not too big on bringing /directing new ones to the KH, to the ORG. So far so good. One day it may come to be black vs white, but so far so good.
I think by staying it may be one day I can be of help to the innocent friends who will be as shocked as I was. ? As many of you here have helped me.

I have also done some reading on the New World Order Plan, and it scares the wits outta me, but really, what can anyone do about it, except 'know' about it? I forget which one of you said its best to use this time strengthening our relationship with the True God. That makes sense to me.

Time most likely will not permit my checking in daily, but without naming all your names I include you DBoarders in my prayers. We all need to pray for each other!

Christian love,

clay

[Olm]

well nice of you to join us. what have you learned about the NEW WORLD ODER PLAN? take care!

[Jeshurun]

A very warm welcome to you clay!

I'm very excited for you in making this step, and yes the internet is unbelievably great, and its such a shame that Jehovah's people are taught that it is Satan's channel to them and they can gain nothing from it. Now I think you understand why they don't want anyone "snooping around".

4 months ago I was a million miles from here, avidly supporting Bush and believing that our worst problem was radical Muslims, and wanting nothing to do with the Watchtower for what I perceived was the merciless attempted murder/destruction of my spiritual psyche. However, I never doubted for a moment that something would drastically change before the arrival of Jehovah's Day, and was I ever right. Since then I have been enlightened not only to the real truth, but the truth behind the untruth, which you will find brother Nambo and I discussing quite often. I'm very glad you're here, and I anticipate many more will follow.

It was Jehovah time to answer my prayers, and how I got here is nothing short of Holy Spirit, this after some healing which I could have only gotten from finding out that the feelings I have had my whole life about the Watchtower, and Jehovah, have been confirmed.

Finding e-Watchman has also given me a relationship with my 80 yr-old mother that I have never had, one where no one is judged and nothing is decided, only heart conditions.

Good night brother clay

[watchman]

Hello Clay and welcome to the forum.

It's good that you are able to find a way to keep your formal ministry going. Believe it or not, I still went out in service for over a year after I started e-watchman. It wasn't easy. And I wasn't all that effective I don't think. But I did what you are doing -- focused attention on the Bible. Pioneering ought to definitely give you freeness of speech, so I would't be to quick to throw that away.

I look forward to your input. And sorry about that 'shot in the heart.' :unsure:

Watchman

[Kenneth]

Good to see you here and welcome. You say "I initially read some of RK essays and was shot in my heart with the information" you're not alone. How many more will feel the pain because of the misrepresentation scripture, even though Jehovah is the great healer and the new information you are receiving will heal much of it.

"I think by staying it may be one day I can be of help to the innocent friends who will be as shocked as I was. ? As many of you here have helped me." This has been my objective all along not only to take in new truths but to be able to give them out one day, what's the point in being a witness if all you can do is keeping it to you self. One word of caution though, be careful who you speak to of this as brothers will not hesitate to betray you, the time will come when you will be able to unload all the knowledge that you have taken in.

Whatever your position you are in a presently in the congregation maintain it, as the time will come when it will be no more.

Kenneth

[barry]

Hi Clay,

Welcome, nice to see you.

Barry

[Jeshurun]

I have also done some reading on the New World Order Plan, and it scares the wits outta me, but really, what can anyone do about it, except 'know' about it?[/b]

It scares me too, because of the capability they have to wreck the earth, and the evil intent of their agenda. The best thing to remember is that this is Jehovah's Jewel, the most beautiful planet in the known universe, and he will protect it, and its inhabitants who love him, and he will repair all the damage. And when finally Armageddon does arrive, it will be no contesto, a monumental rout, complete and utter victory over the forces that dared to take Jehovah's possession from him.

The more you find out about this subject of the NWO, the more easily you will recognize the tricks they will play on mankind. The "brains" behind the scenes are developing weapons technology that will give them the ability to fulfill Revelation, performing "great signs" (some translations say 'miracles') "in the sight of mankind". I have put some of these things into my "Preludes to the 8th King" thread. You will be in the know, brother, and you'll be able to help many to stay grounded through your insight. We are in such a small minority right now, but Daniel 12 assures us that we will be a shining light to the world during the "time of the end". The skills you have learned from the Society, and all of your pioneering, will make you an extremely effective teacher. You will have the opportunity to help save many lives. How much more fulfilling is that than what you have to do right now? Bless you brother for hanging in there all these years.

Have a great day
Lou

[eyes&ears]

Hi Clay,

Welcome. What a loving and balanced Christlike attitude you have.

You are doing very well. May Jehovah and Jesus continue to bless

your efforts as you remain firm in your commitment to do Jehovah's

will and not your own. I am looking forward to hearing more of your

expressions.



Best to you and your loved ones

Eyes & Ears

[Cephalon]

Hi Clay,

Welcome to the forum. Good to see you here

Cephalon

[fruitage]

Welcome Clay....hope and pray for you to keep enduring until the day we all long and pray for...the day Christ will return and reveal himself

Take Care

[Nambo]

Hi Clay and welcome indeed.
Dont worry about stopping the New World Order, you wont, whats more, hold your self erect when you see these things a s you know your deliverance is getting near.

Jehovah destroyed the previous One World Order when it was Babel under Nimrod, now this beast is about to come out of the Abbyss again you can be sure Jehovah will destroy it again.

What you do need to know is its existance and the machinations it will use to try and trick you into worshipping it, so that you can save yourself and save others.

Quite why the society knows nothing about this and still thinks Bush speaks truth is completely beyond me, either they have completely lost Jehovahs Spirit, (for now) and other things going on might suggest this is the case), or they are very clever in that they would all end up in Guantalemo bay if they published the truth about terrorism, or maybe, Jehovah is keeping the organisation in ignorance so that they dont reveal themselves to the wrath of the CIA FBI ADl etc etc

What ever, the scriptures reveal that soon the wild beast will be given authority to wage war with the Holy ones, no, I dont think you will find a bunch being put in prison for a few months after the first world war is going to be the full extent of Satan waging war against the Holy ones for 42 months, it will involve " until the number was filled also of their fellow slaves and their brothers who were about to be killed as they also had been. " Revelation 6:11
Also a "grand sea of decoration" will be prevented form accessing the Holy Mountain, so, as you rightly say, where else in the world can you find such things to be a part of and who worship the God of the Jews rather than the god of Babylon?

I would Love to go back but am fearfull that the harsh teachings of the society, that we must circumcise the flesh rather than the heart, killed my Love for Jehovah previously and its through coming here that Iam really getting it back, I dont want it spoiled again, so maybe this means I havnt endured (the society?) to the end?
At least I can die with Love for Jehovah in my heart.

[juffowup]

It scares me too, because of the capability they have to wreck the earth, and the evil intent of their agenda. The best thing to remember is that this is Jehovah's Jewel, the most beautiful planet in the known universe, and he will protect it, and its inhabitants who love him, and he will repair all the damage. And when finally Armageddon does arrive, it will be no contesto, a monumental rout, complete and utter victory over the forces that dared to take Jehovah's possession from him.[/b]

Amen, amen! There is a balance between caution and concern with worldy events and fear and doubt. As followers of Christ we are right to display the former, but with Jehovah on our side, we have no reason to be burdened with the latter.

[Jeshurun]

I would Love to go back but am fearfull that the harsh teachings of the society, that we must circumcise the flesh rather than the heart, killed my Love for Jehovah previously and its through coming here that Iam really getting it back, I dont want it spoiled again, so maybe this means I havnt endured (the society?) to the end?[/b]

Not at all, Nambo, enduring the Society is not what Jesus had in mind, I think you know that. We are all going to have to endure the great tribulation to the end, without renouncing Jehovah or giving in to the King of Order out of Chaos. As it is written, not having "the mark" is the victory of endurance. There's no way you're taking that mark, Nambo. You're like me, you're not afraid of death by their hands. If I had to look forward to this New World Order with no chance of Jesus intervening, I would take my own life right now.

You can be in my foxhole, brother.

[clay]

Dear DBoarders,
Nice bunch of comments and friendly welcome! Thank you All.

To respond:
Olm, to answer your question regarding what I have read about the NWO-The Plan, I have read a number of web sites, and have learned of the basic outline, I guess you might say, but really do not have the picture & details complete. Just do not have the amt of time needed to read all I would like. Appreciate perspectives, pertinent news items links & connecting updates from many posters here. I think one can really know Bible history, prophecy.. And one can know the historical events of the changing world scene, but if they're not put together one just doesn't get the whole picture. This stuff is beyond belief, just incredible, what a masterful plan of The Ruler of this world! Fascinating how its gone down through the ages. Don't feel qualified to comment on specifics.

Jeshurun, similiarly, its not been that long ago that I was tripping along unaware. Guess the past months have been the wildest ride I've been on to date in my life. Glad to hear you're bonding with your Mom. We don't have the parents for long, make the best of the time you have. I wonder if Jehovah doesn't view that as sacred service. You are her old age insurance! Seems the only benefit of learning about the NWO is just in knowing about it. Thank you for your positive words.

Watchman, Thank you for the courage you've shown, the time, effort, priorities, and this site. (my heart was shot here, and on way to mending, > here)

Barry, Cephalon, fruitage, thanks for the welcome.

Kenneth, thanks for the welcome, & advice. It has taken me a while to get to the point of joining here, so using caution in who/what talking comes naturally. I see things so differently now. Man! is that an understatement! I appreciate your balance.

E&E, thank you for your welcome. Only hope to live up to your kind words. I will say, initially I was overwhelmed, (shot in the heart) but the honesty found here is part of the program of attraction that attracted me and kept me returning. The views expressed helped stabilize till I sorted and made some sense.

Nambo, one of the resident-experts on NWO, that's how you come across to me! Thanks for the welcome. The words Kenneth wrote were right on "....to take in new truths but to be able to give them out one day, what's the point in being a witness if all you can do is keeping it to your self...." The Reader of hearts knows your heart and intent. Someone with your knowledge will be invaluable helping when the time comes. Reason I justify staying within the cong, so far, is really for the Friends. Feel like I need time to 'mature' in all this new knowledge, before making life altering decisions. We can serve Jehovah anywhere. I hope you find your comfort level.

Jeffowup, sensible words: balance and caution

You guys are the Best! Glad finally joined up and I'm on the inside looking out instead of the outside looking in!

clay