Ten Kings

[Jeshurun]

7 “After this I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! a fourth beast, fearsome and terrible and unusually strong. And it had teeth of iron, big ones. It was devouring and crushing, and what was left it was treading down with its feet. And it was something different from all the [other] beasts that were prior to it, and it had ten horns. 8 I kept on considering the horns, and, look! another horn, a small one, came up in among them, and there were three of the first horns that were plucked up from before it. And, look! there were eyes like the eyes of a man in this horn, and there was a mouth speaking grandiose things.

19 “Then it was that I desired to make certain concerning the fourth beast, which proved to be different from all the others, extraordinarily fearsome, the teeth of which were of iron and the claws of which were of copper, which was devouring [and] crushing, and which was treading down even what was left with its feet; 20 and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other [horn] that came up and before which three fell, even that horn that had eyes and a mouth speaking grandiose things and the appearance of which was bigger than that of its fellows.

23 “This is what he said, ‘As for the fourth beast, there is a fourth kingdom that will come to be on the earth, that will be different from all the [other] kingdoms; and it will devour all the earth and will trample it down and crush it. 24 And as for the ten horns, out of that kingdom there are ten kings that will rise up; and still another one will rise up after them, and he himself will be different from the first ones, and three kings he will humiliate. 25 And he will speak even words against the Most High, and he will harass continually the holy ones themselves of the Supreme One. And he will intend to change times and law, and they will be given into his hand for a time, and times and half a time. 26 And the Court itself proceeded to sit, and his own rulership they finally took away, in order to annihilate [him] and to destroy [him] totally.

12 “And the ten horns that you saw mean ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they do receive authority as kings one hour with the wild beast. 13 These have one thought, and so they give their power and authority to the wild beast.

Please compare this information with what is presented here:

http://oldthinker.wordpress.com/2007/08/13...an-integration/ (http://oldthinker.wordpress.com/2007/08/13/the-big-picture-behind-north-american-integration/)

Agape
Lou

[Steadfast]

Dear Brother Jesh,

Good information here. :) It's going to be fascinating to watch this all unfold.

Thank you for your constant vigilance and helping us to 'keep on the watch.'

Love,

Steadfast

[billy]

Very interesting Jeshurun - it makes sense to me that the 10 kings mentioned in prophecy is literal - all the other predictions of various rulers were numbered literally - ie the 4 rulers after Alexander the Great :Yahoo_33:

[Jeshurun]

And thank you to you both, Steadfast and Billy.

I can't help but to think which three kings might fall and be "humiliated" by the eventual 'little horn'.

The "ruling elite" have made it clear they would like to wipe out at least 3/4 of the world's population. According to the scriptures, it seems they will succeed in at least 1/4. Just one of these kings, China, would fulfill that.

Agape
Lou

[Jeshurun]

<div align="left">THE NATION MAGAZINE CLAIMS NAFTA SUPERHIGHWAY IS A MYTH
CFR controlled tabloid publishes hit piece on the John Birch Society, Kelly Taylor, and Jerome Corsi </div>
Infowars.com / August 13th, 2007

Bob Dacy


Many months ago, this writer, Kelly Taylor, and Christopher Hayes, a correspondent for The Nation magazine, met in a downtown Austin café to discuss the NAFTA Superhighway and the Trans-Texas Corridor. Mr. Hayes was in Texas to interview dozens of people involved in the fight over the TTC. For about two hours, Taylor and I explained our role, and by extension, the role of the John Birch Society, to an extremely interested reporter. Kelly Taylor had written several articles for The New American magazine on the international implications of the construction of the Superslab, and I had written one article as well. We provided him ample documentation that the TTC is the Texas section of a planned NAFTA Superhighway meant to be an essential infrastructure project facilitating the eventual union of the United States, Mexico, and Canada into one political, cultural, economic, military, and educational entity to be called "North America."


Christopher Hayes&#39; work is now the front cover of the August 27, 2007 issue of The Nation. After expending five paragraphs resembling the truth, he then springs his trap, claiming that efforts to expose the plans for the superslab are nonsense because "There&#39;s no such thing as a NAFTA Superhighway."


While acknowledging the existence of Kansas City Smart Port, the NASCO Corridor Coalition, the expansion of the Mexican Port of Lazaro Cardenas, the Security and Prosperity Partnership and other smoking guns, he proceeds with his thesis that the Trans-Texas Corridor is real, but the NAFTA Superhighway is a complete fabrication dreamed up by crazy right wing extremist conspiracy nuts. Claiming "Kelly Taylor may represent a certain fringe of the anti-TTC efforts (her name prompted some eye-rolling among other activists)," that Jerome Corsi of WorldNetDaily is a "right wing nationalist ," and that the John Birch Society is "one of the leading purveyors of the highway myth," Hayes proceeds to explain his contention that all of the smoking guns proving the planned construction of the NAFTA Superhighway are nothing but flashes in the pan.


The Nation, an old line Eastern Establishment publication whose editor, part owner, and publisher, Katrina vanden Heuvel, is a long time member of the globalist infested Council on Foreign Relations , sent Mr. Hayes to Texas to promote a lie. The CFR has been promoting one world government since its inception in 1921. Too many Americans are waking up to the REALITY and consequences of the NAFTA Superhighway, and the elites are desperately trying to put the cork back on the bottle. CFR members are the movers and shakers pushing for the superslab, and if word keeps spreading, someone might just accuse the CFR of treason. (Chairman Emeritus of the CFR, David Rockefeller, has proudly admitted that he is working against the best interests of the United States in order to form a one world government. See page 405 of his book, Memoirs. )


Exposing the outright lie that is Mr. Hayes&#39; work could take months, as proof of the planned superslab is abundant as rocks in concrete. For now, I will offer just two examples. First, to claim that the Trans-Texas Corridor is real, and that the NAFTA Superhighway is fiction defies logic and common sense. To believe Mr. Hayes, one would have to believe that the TTC is a highway to nowhere. The four football field wide monstrosity will simply stop at the Rio Grande river to the south, and will not link up with anything across the Red River to the north. No one is denying that the TTC is to be new construction, yet Mr. Hayes would have us believe it is NOT part of a much larger system. Preposterous!


Second, I offer the words of United States Congressman Michael McCaul, from the 10 th District in Texas. In no way can Mr. McCaul be accused of being part of the tin foil hat wearing paranoid crowd. In a letter responding to Kelly Taylor&#39;s letter asking for his support of H. Con. Res. 487, a resolution expressing opposition in Congress to the NAFTA highway and any form of a North American Union, Mr. McCaul, in a letter dated November 20, 2006, writes, "This is an issue of great importance to me BECAUSE THE TRANS TEXAS CORRIDOR IS INTENDED TO BE THE FIRST PART OF THE NAFTA HIGHWAY." (Emphasis added.)

[stayawake]

Lou
check ur PM dont know if u have this link or not
stayawake

[Jeshurun]

The Bible, particularly in 2 Thessalonians 2, reveals that the entity known as "Antichrist", or "son of destruction" will be the "evil slave" behind the whitewashed wall of the Governing Body of the WTBT$.

We&#39;ve witnessed the duplicity and downright lack of faith in Jehovah as aptly demonstrated by the UN-NGO affair. The Governing Body of Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses knows full well that anyone who does not give their full support to this coming world government will be persecuted severely. For that reason, as we speak, the architects of the New World Order are very actively indoctrinating religious leaders in how to prepare the masses for the coming global oligarchy, and the goal is to use fear to promulgate passive submission to the demands of the Beast.

Daniel 11:38,39 says:

38 But to the god of fortresses, in his position he will give glory; and to a god that his fathers did not know he will give glory by means of gold and by means of silver and by means of precious stone and by means of desirable things. 39 And he will act effectively against the most fortified strongholds, along with a foreign god. Whoever has given [him] recognition he will make abound with glory, and he will actually make them rule among many; and [the] ground he will apportion out for a price.

Where have these men behind the plaster curtain shown their loyalty to be? With Jehovah, or their own selfish lust of greed, power, and glory?

Who is this "god of fortresses"?

In actuality, she is a goddess. Her name is Semiramis, also known as Artemis. Her worship is carried out today, in Christendom, by the deification of The Virgin Mary. The New World Order cronies have made it clear that this is their goddess, the Babylonian "goddess of fortresses".

Does the Watchtower give us a clue as to their hidden loyalty to the "god of fortresses"?

Here&#39;s a big one: Almost the exact replica of the "Watchtower", the WTBT s very own symbol or logo, on the cover of the Watchtower Magazine, was worn atop Artemis&#39; head.

[billy]

10 horns

should it be 11 horns?

Daniel 7 : And it was something different from all the [other] beasts that were prior to it, and it had ten horns. 8 I kept on considering the horns, and, look! another horn, a small one, came up in among them, and there were three of the first horns that were plucked up from before it. And, look! there were eyes like the eyes of a man in this horn, and there was a mouth speaking grandiose things.

20 and concerning the ten horns that were on its head, and the other [horn] that came up and before which three fell, even that horn that had eyes and a mouth speaking grandiose things and the appearance of which was bigger than that of its fellows.

24 And as for the ten horns, out of that kingdom there are ten kings that will rise up; and still another one will rise up after them, and he himself will be different from the first ones, and three kings he will humiliate.

and what about the statue of 4 kings and the last one is pictured as clay & iron

but the list shows 5 kingdoms

Daniel 2:45 - and [that] it crushed the iron, the copper, the molded clay, the silver and the gold.

[Jeshurun]

Hi Billy

The small horn that comes up after the first ten would be the final world dictator. All the prophecies in Daniel depict Christ as coming against one unified government, Satan&#39;s counterfeit kingdom.

The prophecy is also indicating that this final king will annihilate three of the ten that come up before it.
That would leave eight kings, but the one king (little horn) is still leader over the remaining seven.

The "molded clay" is indicating a serious weakness in this last king, that it won&#39;t be unified due to a mix in ideological thinking. The leaders want iron-fisted rule, but the "offspring of mankind" is evidently not like-minded.

I don&#39;t really understand the "five on the list" that you&#39;re referring to. Could you elaborate?

Thanks
Lou

[SlaveForJah]

Could the ten kings be these 10:

USA
Britain
France
Russia
China
India
Pakistan
Israel
North Korea
and if US intelligence is in any way correct...Iran?

These are the 10 Nuclear nations. Just a thought.

I am also curious as to the "list of 5" to which billy is referring.

SlaveForJah

[Jeshurun]

The ten kings would encompass all nations. Here&#39;s the way it was drawn up by the Club of Rome in 1973:

http://oldthinkernews.com/Articles/oldthinker%20news/big_pi1.gif

[billy]

Daniel 2:45 - and [that] it crushed the iron, the copper, the molded clay, the silver and the gold.

This is the order listed

1 iron
2 copper
3 molded clay
4 silver
5 gold

do you think there is a reason the molded clay is mentioned seperatly and out of sequence with the order of the statue being

1 gold
2 silver
3 copper
4 iron
5 iron and clay


and as the wording in Revaltion&#39;s description of the Beast states there are 10 horns and then goes on to describe an 11th - could it be possible that in Daniel Chapter 2 similar as saying there are 4 kingdoms but then descripes a 5th???

the wording of the prophecy in Revelation says the Beast comes out of the sea with 10 horns but then goes on to say another horn comes up- do you think there is any significance that the 11th horn comes up after the beast comes out of the sea - as stated the 10 horns are already positioned before the beast arrives from the sea???


who do you think the 11th horn will be??

what about Russia?

:Yahoo_33:

[billy]

Interesting divions on the map

why would they put Australia with South Africa? (maybe the Dutch think they should have South Africa and Australia being they discovered Australia before the British and were controlling South Africa in 1973) I would seperate Australia and add all the pacific islands and then put South Africa in with the rest of Africa - no more apathied

alot has changed since 1973!

If the Amero plan works out then that would reduce the total to 9

I cant see India (Hindu) and Indonesia (Muslim) joining forces - lets make them 2 seperate powers and bring the number back to 10

this is fun :ban_dance01:

[billy]

Could the ten kings be these 10:

USA
Britain
France
Russia
China
India
Pakistan
Israel
North Korea
and if US intelligence is in any way correct...Iran?

These are the 10 Nuclear nations. Just a thought.

I am also curious as to the "list of 5" to which billy is referring.

SlaveForJah[/b]

Isnt NOrth Korea forfieting its nuclear powers

On the subject of Nuclear power - Bush told Prime Minister Howard he hasnt decided weather he will allowAustalia to enrich uranium - It was an intersesting way to put it - It showed me that Bush thinks of himself as being the boss of nuclear power - APEC summit going on here at the moment - its very amusing

[Jeshurun]

Daniel 2:45 - and [that] it crushed the iron, the copper, the molded clay, the silver and the gold.

This is the order listed

1 iron
2 copper
3 molded clay
4 silver
5 gold

do you think there is a reason the molded clay is mentioned seperatly and out of sequence with the order of the statue being

1 gold
2 silver
3 copper
4 iron
5 iron and clay


and as the wording in Revaltion&#39;s description of the Beast states there are 10 horns and then goes on to describe an 11th - could it be possible that in Daniel Chapter 2 similar as saying there are 4 kingdoms but then descripes a 5th???

the wording of the prophecy in Revelation says the Beast comes out of the sea with 10 horns but then goes on to say another horn comes up- do you think there is any significance that the 11th horn comes up after the beast comes out of the sea - as stated the 10 horns are already positioned before the beast arrives from the sea???


who do you think the 11th horn will be??

what about Russia?

:Yahoo_33: [/b]

The iron and clay represents the final world power, UK/US, the ten toes represents the ten kings. The final king would not be any of the ten, it comes up after them, and would be the world dictator that Satan installs. This may be represented by Lucifer in Isaiah, because it says he is brought down to Sheol, not a place for Satan, but for humans. It will probably be someone the London oligarchy appoints, as they are represented by the iron. The fact that all the metals are destroyed together means that the entire image represents the final world government, or the entire progressive history of Satan&#39;s political empire, so the order they are listed is probably insignificant.

What&#39;s changed since 1973 is that Mexico has joined the North American Union. Britain is headed towards joining the European Union. You can get a clearer picture of things if you read the link at the bottom of the first post on this thread.

The four beasts in Daniel simply picks up the progression of powers from Medo-Persia, bypassing the first three, Egypt, Assyria and Babylon, as that was the point from which Daniel was writing.

Hope this helps
Lou