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Jeshurun
01-16-2007, 11:08 PM
Dear Patience,

I saw your shout and thought I would start up a welcome thread for you. We're here to help and you came to the right place.

So, WELCOME!

About your situation, it may not be a good idea to try to involve your husband with this discussion board just yet, as it sound like he is very devoted to the organization. Hopefully you will see this thread and join in discussion with us!

Lou

Nambo
01-17-2007, 01:53 AM
Hi Patience, and welcome very much indeeed!, (extra e for empasis)

We used to have a lovely welcome to new ones section.

I think Robert underestimates the value he serves in not only revealing Bible truths, but in helping those who though the Watchtower was so correct, that any heart or mind deviation meant a deviation from the Love of Jehovah so became lost sheep.

whoowh
01-17-2007, 02:51 AM
Welcome Patience, you have a nice nick and it might be useful in your walking in the truth together with your husband, Jehova, Jesus and all of others. You asked:

quote: my faith in Jehovah has had a new start and my love for him has grown. The only thing is I 'd love for my husband to believe all these new things with me but he takes the line that Watchtower is indestructible and that I shouldnt speak out against it. How can I make him see - is anyone else in this situation?

A refined love and faith to Jehova urges you to speak out loud and clear , but sometimes it is the right way to stay calm. to push on can give the opposite reaction that you wants. Remember the advise Peter once gave:

3:1-2 In like manner, YOU wives, be in subjection to YOUR own husbands, in order that, if any are not obedient to the word, they may be won without a word through the conduct of [their] wives, 2 because of having been eyewitnesses of YOUR chaste conduct together with deep respect

You could use this principle as a advise in your case.

Whoowh

stayawake
01-17-2007, 06:54 AM
Hi Patience, and a great big WELCOME
Yes there are many here where ones mate is still blinded. I just feel when the time is right they will see it on their own, and then on the other hand, they may nver see the difference between the slavery to man rather then to Jah. As time permints the showings of the heart will take place, or should i say ,thinking for ones self will take place, if one isn't fearful of doing so.
Thats one of the beautys of our creation, we were all created with a free mind and will. The question is are we going to use this God given gift ,or are we going to hand it over to man to make our decisions.
Must remember Luke tell us "every one will carry his own load". Meaning we will be responsible for our own actions.
Sorry i always get carried away.
Patience please tell me /us what lead you to the Shout Board. How did you find us ? How long ago ? Would love to hear your exsperience.
Always keep in mind this Board are all Lovers of Jehovah, so please feel at home.
love stayawake

Kenneth
01-17-2007, 08:25 AM
Hi Patience

Welcome to the forum. I have just read your story in the shout box and can sympathise with you as my wife will listen to nothing I have to say. If I say anything she just says you got that from those people you were involved with. I did for a time try to breakaway from e-watchman but the ring of truth just drove me back. The situation is now I find it difficult to study the Watchtower and for other meetings even though when I do it's easier to follow the programme. My wife has noticed my lack of enthusiasm for the meetings; she maintains I have spiritual anorexia. Most of my time though is spent studying the bible and reading e-watchman, I hardly think I am anorexic.

Its interesting you mention the POs wife; yes sadly some individuals and their attitudes never cease to amaze me. I don't know what your circumstances are but some women see others as a threat to themselves and this maybe the case even if you have done nothing to merit her wrath. The problem is it's the POs wife and she will have his backing and no doubt the backing of others, however this is not always the case as some elders just wont put-up with injustice. Try to seek out one that will listen and understand you predicament, in my experience there are always one or two.

Just back to you husband I don't know how much you have told him, but you could point out one or two scriptures and ask him does the society's interpretation make sense. Maybe read the essay on 'Joel' or the 'Harvest' think of one or two questions in relation to the bible show him what the scripture is real saying and see what his reaction is.

Yes it's a very sad situation that those in the Watchtower are in a form of self-denial a phoney paradise and our loved ones are caught up in it, however the good news is world events will soon be awaken them.

As I said welcome to the forum. :wave:

Kenneth</span></span> </span>

Nash
01-17-2007, 10:36 AM
Hi Patience! :)

Welcome to the forum!

Nash

ellieharp
01-17-2007, 10:42 AM
Hello Patience. Im new here too so welcome and Im sure you&#39;ll find your way on here. Its been very encouraging for me so far.

eyes&ears
01-17-2007, 01:14 PM
Hi Patience,

Twenty three years old huh. Wow, what I would do to be 23 again and know what I know now. :ban_dance02: :icon_razz: It is heartbreaking to hear what others are experiencing right in the congs. now. We all here have been

through or are still experiencing some kind of hurt/pain negative experience

in our spiritual walk. However, no matter how hard it is, try to stay

focused in your relationship with Jehovah. If you are being treated

unfairly of course speak up, but rest assured, Jehovah is watching

and that Jehovah is the God of justice. Deut 32:4

I also have found the 34 Chapter of Ezekiel to be of comfort to me

when Jehovah speaks about the Shepherds (those in positions of

leadership) who are also causing confusion/pain.

Pay attention to how you listen, make sure of all things, be careful of

who you share your new found truths with, be cautious as a serpent and

as loving as a dove :icon_razz: :liefde020:

So I hope you stay awhile and that you do find some comfort in being

here with us OKEY DOKEY.




Warm hugs to you and your family

Eyes & Ears

patience
01-17-2007, 01:16 PM
Thanks to everyone I do appreciate your help.
After finding out about the UN and knowing that things seemed wrong in the way others treated each other in the Congregation I felt something was wrong. I did tell my husband about the Watchtower and Tract Society&#39;s affiliation with UN which at first I thought he was beginning to accept but now he keeps looking at the internet to disprove what I found out.
I did show him the verses in Joel and have actually told him quite a lot about 1914 and asked him how can people have the mark of the wild beast now etc which I actually think he can understand but ultimatly I think he thinks its easier not to know.

Molly
01-17-2007, 02:40 PM
Hi Patience-

Welcome! So happy that you decided to join our merry little (and expanding) group!

Molly

patience
01-17-2007, 04:21 PM
Hi Molly thanks for welcoming me It&#39;s nice to find such friendly people.

Berean
01-17-2007, 05:15 PM
Welcome! Good to see that I&#39;m not the only young person on here. :)