Watchtower=antichrist

[Jeshurun]

Greetings Brothers and Sisters,

In light of the prophecies of Ezekiel chapter 13 and of 2 Thessalonians chapter 2, the Antichrist resides behind a whitewashed wall at Brooklyn Bethel, misleading Jehovah's people into apostasy. We have seen how false prophecies have caused Jehovah's people to grow impatient in waiting upon our Lord Jesus to return, and have instead turned to a golden calf, following the traditions of men and surrendering truth to a group of power-hungry evil slaves.

We know of the Watchtower's investments in the warfare technology of Rand-Cam and sister corporations:

http://www.geocities.com/wtgreed/article.htm

On August 2, 2007, the US Congress proposed a bill which, if passed into law,<span style="font-family:Arial"> </span>would mean that your words and actions could be considered terrorism. S 1959 EVISCERATES FREE SPEECH, and empowers the United States Government to declare ANYTHING they deem an "extremist belief system", instantly make you a terrorist, resulting in stripping of US citizenship, torture, and/or execution, with no habeas corpus rights, and no ability to challenge even in the US Supreme Court.

To download a PDF file of this bill, click here:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/ge...s1959is.txt.pdf (http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:s1959is.txt.pdf)

For more information on this bill, click here:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1955

and here:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-1959

There have been found strong links to this bill with Rand Corporation, click here:

http://www.truthnews.us/?p=941

Perhaps this is manifestation of some of the reasons why Fritz Springmeier claims that the Watchtower Headquarters at Brooklyn Bethel is also the secret headquarters of the Illuminati.

Love,
Jesh

[Jinnvisible]

Interesting roving reporting Jesh TY.

[DoubtingThomas]

I don&#39;t know if I would give much credence to the words of a convicted armed robber (Fritz Springmeier) who is still sitting in an Oregon State Penitentiary.

[Jeshurun]

I don&#39;t know if I would give much credence to the words of a convicted armed robber (Fritz Springmeier) who is still sitting in an Oregon State Penitentiary.[/b]

That&#39;s a good point DT, worth noting. However I don&#39;t think it negates decades of research into this secret society that has been confirmed and corroborated by the research of many others. And in my opinion, this fits in quite nicely with the Man of Lawlessness sitting behind the whitewashed wall in Brooklyn. Also, Springmeier had nothing to do with the gist of the information in the post above. I merely added that on at the end as my own speculation.

Agape
Jesh

[NEW HEART]

Check out whos name is listed under the subheading International threats.

http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/mysteries/ufo/threats.html

if you go down towards the bottom, you will see why they consider them as a threat.

New Heart

[watchman]

Check out whos name is listed under the subheading International threats.

http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/mysteries/ufo/threats.html

if you go down towards the bottom, you will see why they consider them as a threat.

New Heart[/b]

What sane person would possibly take any of that information seriously? Aliens from Andromeda? Insectoids? Reptilians? Why not Killer Klowns from Outer Space?

http://www.itsonlyamovie.co.uk/NEWER%20COVERS/KILLER%20CLOWNS%20FROM%20OUTER%20SPACE.jpg

[Peter]

Whilst we are on the subject of lunacy has anyone read David Icke&#39;s view on Reptilians and how they shake the molecular structure to take on the appearance of human form? Apparently Bush is one, when they get agitated their eyes make a different shape.

Come on what a load of cods-wallop. :wacko:

[DoubtingThomas]

Like most conspiracy theories, this one (posted by NEW HEART) has a lot of factual truth, interspersed with the outrageous dillsuions that are so common to conspiracy theorist. This makes it a little more more difficult to investigate, in order to distinguish fact from fiction. I did read the entire link posted by NEW HEART though, and it was a fascinating piece of fiction. I truly enjoyed it, although I rarely read fiction any more. It would have never been found in the non-fiction section at my local library or book store. Conspiracy theories are often preferred by individuals as a way to understand what is happening around them without having to grasp the complexities of history and political interaction.

DT

[Sketch]

I don&#39;t know if I would give much credence to the words of a convicted blasphemer (Jesus Christ).[/b]

Fixed that for you...

/i have NO idea who fritz is...
//i just try not to let past transgressions paint my future perceptions....

[Eli&#39;s Foe]

Like most conspiracy theories, this one (posted by NEW HEART) has a lot of factual truth, interspersed with the outrageous dillsuions that are so common to conspiracy theorist. This makes it a little more more difficult to investigate, in order to distinguish fact from fiction.
Conspiracy theories are often preferred by individuals as a way to understand what is happening around them without having to grasp the complexities of history and political interaction.

DT[/b]
You make a couple of good points here DT, ie. some conspiracy theories simply do not stand up to rigorous (and sometimes less than rigorous) inspection. Often however, as you say, there is the "no smoke without fire" aspect which must be borne in mind. Very often the facts are presented which many would agree do raise further questions or at least prima facie reveal some inadequacies in what are often "official" or "expert" analyses of what make have taken place or indeed is ongoing.
On the point regarding those who take an interest in what are known as conspiracy theories, this assumes of course that received history or the interpretation of political motivations or actions are always entirely factual and honest. History bears witness to the fact that governments and the media have often rewritten the facts to suit their own agendas. This is not me promoting a conspiracy theory, it is a historical fact - just take Fascism in Germany in the thirties or Communism in the Warsaw pact countries as good examples of the rewriting of history for public consumption.
This then leads to the question about the agendas of countries in the West. Can we rely on everything we are told to be true? Are the political masters in these countries always above such ploys?
The bible talks of the Anglo-American Dragon which speaks like a lamb. Think about what this is saying. It is deceptive - it appears benign, but is not. The bible in this instance is telling us, dont be misled, all is not what it seems. Similarly, as the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one (the father of the lie) and he keeps transforming himself into an angel of light - we need to be aware of all pervading deceptions.
Much of what eWatchman has written (and which I presume you largely accept?) can be construed as conspiracy theory - I&#39;m sure that is how the WTS would like it to be construed. the fact is, there is a huge conspiracy at work in the world today. It is designed to bring all peoples under a one world government, that is also supported by the bible.
So, I agree with you, sorting out the credible from the incredible is difficult. We may go down some blind alleys on the quest for truth (and some get stuck in those blind alleys and cant retrace their steps), but make no mistake, Satan and all those who serve his purposes are part of a conspiracy.

EF

[Jeshurun]

DT I have to give you credit for reading that entire thing. I didn&#39;t get past the very beginning where it started talking about civilizations 35 million years ago or whatever.

The bottom line is that the demons are having a field day with this alien stuff. I would think that angels in Tartarus would be restricted from interbreeding with humans, after all this was the reason for the flood and their ensuing punishment in their restricted state. That doesn&#39;t mean that demons can&#39;t use disinfo and propaganda to try to make the world believe that aliens are coming to attack us or that there are reptiles in disguise running the world. The sorcery practiced by these people allows them to be under demonic control, and if that means demonic possession what&#39;s the difference? The result is the same. We are coming under attack by Satan and his demons, and they have every trick in the book to disguise themselves as something else.

I know that most of you don&#39;t agree but if the Bible&#39;s account of Creation is to be taken for what it plainly says, it rules out the possibility that the earth has any history beyond what is written. I don&#39;t care how many millions of years ago they try to say that Atlantis existed, or Stonehenge or any other monolith was built, Satan and his demons had plenty of time to get all that stuff done before the flood.
Crop circles and alien abductions? A demonix hoax!

Henry Kissinger has alluded to alien invasions, even the Vatican fully endorses this "ET" hogwash:

http://www.sbwire.com/news/view/14307

Whether it&#39;s real flying saucers built by the Germans who received anti-gravity technology from the demons, or if its holograms, or whatever, the bottom line is that its all demons trying to fool the world into believing that the coming Cosmic War is something else than what it actually is, a battle between Christ and his angels and Satan and his demons, who are trying to gain complete control over a world which does not belong to them.

As far as the Watchtower being so high up in the food chain, I think the scriptures tell us all we need to know to distinguish a hoax from reality.

Jesh

[Nambo]

My take on the really wackey conspiracy stuff as preached by the like of David Icke is two fold.

One, a researcher who gets too close to revealing the truth of what is happening in this world is discredited. David Icke didnt actually see shape shifting occur himself, but he had so many "credible" witnesses report such to him that he has incorparated a Reptilian Elite in his theories.
Consequently, all his work, including anything that may be uncovering truth is deemed to be ridiculous due to its assosiation with the view that the Queen is really a lizard.

Who sent those witnesses to discredit all Ickes research?

My second take is on the likes of various so called and often ex-military "whistle-blowers", who firstly on thier talks reveal a lot of known and credible inside information in oredr to establish thier trust-worthyness with the audience, and then proceed to spout a load of dis-information in order to inplant thier own version of "truth" in you, wiether actually belived by themselves, or in order to mislead you with known lies.
A case in point being all the whistle-blowers who claim to have seen alien spacecraft in hangers that the governmnet is "hiding" from you, when in fact the Elite wants you to belive in Aliens so there is less chance of you beliving in God.

[Berean]

Witnesses or not, no serious scientist would believe those lizard stories, so I can only reach the conclusion that David Icke is a looney for believing those witnesses.