Judgement Period?

[renewed]

Hello,

Is the great tribulation a period of judgement? Is the great crowd the only ones judged during this time if it is since they are said to have come out of it? How does this coming out of the great tribulation coinside with the great tribulation being cut short on account of the choosen ones?

Thank You,
Renewed

[stayawake]

Greetings renewed
Does your name indicate that you may have been on the board before ?

I hate to see your post slid off the board with out a answer,
Sundays are always slow, so I will at least give you something.

The great tribulation is what takes us in the last days ( I think ).No can;t say its a jugement period but will be a time when those living will be forced to make a decision, on whos side they are on.
Gods Establihed Messianic Kingdom or The one world Goverment that Christ Jesus will be no part of.

The days must be cut short because of the chosen ones or no flesh would be saved, because the GT is when the True sons of God will be revealed. Some say they are a Jew but are not Rev.3:9 so it's then all will know.

Matt 24:14 is now to have PRIORITY .
GODS KINGDOM has finally been set up. It will be the chosen ones who get this Good News started .

This is also the cause of the GT as satan is cast to the earth at the birth of this heavenly Kingdom. Rev 12:12
Rev 12 :17 tell us it is then that satan wages war with the remaining ones of the 144,000 that are keeping Gods commanments.
Filled with Holy Spirit ,they speak out boldly , as mentioned in Joel.2:

This open preaching about Christ and his Kindom will cause the Wild Beast The One World Goverment to go after these spiritual Jews and silience them,
by death of course, which brings on Gods anger or Armagedden

lots happens in between, but will leave that for others.
Happy you renewed.
love stayawake

[renewed]

Thanks stayawake you are now my best friend since you are the first one to answer me with a sense of caring :liefde026:
I remember a picture in the Revelation book of tattered and torn people struggling up a hill outside of a city being torn apart with earthquakes and thunderbolts. It made me think they were coming out of the great tribulation or would that be armageddon? Well at some point there is the judgement period and I thought it would be during the great tribulation when we are tested as to how we will react to what is happening to those around us. Jesus said if we did it to the least of these my brothers but some think that that is only the chosen ones and not just any old neighbor type. Not sure about that one. Anyway I pictured the great crowd who are said to come out of the great tribulation as having past the test because it doesn't say they come out of the armageddon. Then I thought of that scripture that says the great tribulation is cut short on account of the chosen ones but the scripture doesn't say they come out of the great tribulation unless they are mingled in with the great crowd when they come out of it? So I thought I would ask the question. Still not sure where the chosen ones are when the great tribulation is cut short but at least we know a great crowd comes out of it.

[stayawake]

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The artist of that picture may have had Armagedden in mind as Ezk does speak of a globol earthquake where even the fishes will shimmer,[/u]

Well at some point there is the judgement period
ANS The 1000 year reign of Christ is when the the living and the dead are judged, so in a sense that 1000 years is judgement day

and I thought it would be during the great tribulation when we are tested as to how we will react to what is happening to those around us.
Ans The same test will befall all mankind as to whos side do we take. Gods Heavenly Messeanic Kingdom or will we take the mark of the Beast ( 666 of the one world goverment

Jesus said if we did it to the least of these my brothers but some think that that is only the chosen ones

Ans. It is the Chosen ones which are Christ brothers and sisters. It will be they that will be preaching the GOOD NEWS OF GODS MESSIANIC KINGDOM Matt 24:14. It will really be good news that the Kingdom that Christ said to pray for is finally here.
It is how we treat , respond,and help these brothers and sisters that marks us to be among the Great crowd that come out of the GT..
The true sons and daughters will be on a mission, it will be thru them that Matt 24 :14 will have fullfillment. When the One world goverment gets wind of this and find they have a following ( 10 men will take hold of the skirt of a spiritual Jew,) they will be hunted down like animals.
So did we support them ? when they were hungry did we get food to them ? did we visit them when they were in prison ? these are the things the acts that will mark us for survival.
We will even support them in the preaching fearlessly. Once we take sides with those who will rule with Christ as Watchmans recent ans to questions
we too will have a portion of Gods holy spirit .Joel 2:28-29

and not just any old neighbor type.

Ans Of course we are to love our neighbor thats the second greatest commanment, it will be those if we show love to that will respond to Matt 24 :14 when we tell them what is taking place. The nice thing is most who believe in Christ are looking forward to this Kingdom that Jesus told us to pray and watch for. I think it will be easier for them then those who know Jehovah and are sticking with the LIE of 1914.


Not sure about that one. Anyway I pictured the great crowd who are said to come out of the great tribulation as having past the test because it doesn&#39;t say they come out of the armageddon. Then I thought of that scripture that says the great tribulation is cut short on account of the chosen ones but the scripture doesn&#39;t say they come out of the great tribulation

Ans The chosen ones are killed (TWO WITNESSES) thats what brings on Armagedden.
Ezk said it was like touching His Jehovahs eyeball

unless they are mingled in with the great crowd when they come out of it? So I thought I would ask the question. Still not sure where the chosen ones are when the great tribulation is cut short but at least we know a great crowd comes out of it.[/b]

Ans The GT had to be cut short in order for the Chosen ones to fullfill Matt 24;!4 and to draw attention to the Beast as to what is taking place,
This preaching is forbidden by the New world goverment, so that is why they are killed, but they will keep preach the setting up of the Heavenly Kingdom ,knowing that they will be put to death, as Jesus told those who were going to rule with him,
"are you able to drink of the same cup that I am drinking ?Rev 12 :17
this is what brings on ARMAGEDDEN.

Love stayawake

[renewed]

&#39;stayawake&#39; &#39;Dec 3 2007, 03:54 PM&#39;

Jesus said if we did it to the least of these my brothers but some think that that is only the chosen ones

Ans. It is the Chosen ones which are Christ brothers and sisters. It will be they that will be preaching the GOOD NEWS OF GODS MESSIANIC KINGDOM Matt 24:14. It will really be good news that the Kingdom that Christ said to pray for is finally here.
It is how we treat , respond,and help these brothers and sisters that marks us to be among the Great crowd that come out of the GT..
The true sons and daughters will be on a mission, it will be thru them that Matt 24 :14 will have fullfillment. When the One world goverment gets wind of this and find they have a following ( 10 men will take hold of the skirt of a spiritual Jew,) they will be hunted down like animals.
So did we support them ? when they were hungry did we get food to them ? did we visit them when they were in prison ? these are the things the acts that will mark us for survival.
We will even support them in the preaching fearlessly. Once we take sides with those who will rule with Christ as Watchmans recent ans to questions
we too will have a portion of Gods holy spirit .Joel 2:28-29


Thanks stayawake,
That does make sense since the scripture goes on to say that we didn&#39;t really know we were helping Jesus&#39; brothers. So if we just stick to doing good to our neighbors, no matter what, then we will probably be covered that we did it to Jesus brothers too. It is interesting that as a Jehovah&#39;s Witness we already know that we are helping Jesus&#39; brothers right now and won&#39;t need to ask when did we help them like the scripture says. Jesus said we would inherit the kingdom for helping them but I guess it isn&#39;t just during the great tribulation since thats not the judgement period for inheriting the kingdom.

Thanks again,
renewed

p.s. I just thought about something after I replied about that scripture about helping Jesus&#39; brothers. It says we didn&#39;t know we were helping Jesus. So will we know we are helping Jesus&#39; brothers but not knowing we are helping Jesus? Does that question make sense :huh: ?

[stayawake]

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That does make sense since the scripture goes on to say that we didn&#39;t really know we were helping Jesus&#39; brothers.
Thanks again,
renewed

Dear renewed
Jesus is saying that he Jesus views us as doing to him what we did in behalf of the true chosen sons of God which of course would be Christ true brothers/sisters
Remember the chosen are all one body in Christ.( Christ bros and sisters)
WE will know,and I am sure once the ones who don&#39;t know the truth as we do
will come to know,
after all the scripures do say 10 men will take hold of the skirt of a Jew (one of Christ brothers or sisters ).They will say we will go with you people as you know the true God.


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p.s. I just thought about something after I replied about that scripture about helping Jesus&#39; brothers. It says we didn&#39;t know we were helping Jesus. So will we know we are helping Jesus&#39; brothers but not knowing we are helping Jesus? Does that question make sense :huh: ?
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Dear renewed
Lets put it this way
We will have the choice (all) to take sides with the truth or stay with Satans Lies.
Keep in mind the weeds (false bros )will already be bundled up for distruction, and the revealing of the true sons of God or ( Christ bros) will be known. This is where Gods HOLY Spirit will be ,This is His Household or His Temple, made up of living stones.
They will have credentials as to being Chirts bros and sisters.
Like in the first century they were able to do miricles and such, so these last ones that are to be slaughterd ,put to death will have the same calling card. Thats why we have a great crowd that will come out of the great trubulation. These are the ones who reconize that the true God is with these People&#39;

I think if you see Jesus sitting on the throne ( mentally )dividing the sheep from the goats ,one group on one side and another group on the other side, like it says in the scriptures ,
that is just a figurative picture as to what will be going on during the Great Trib. Now I hope this makes sense.
love stayawake