SusanB
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Post in thread 'The Truth, 1st Chapt of Jehovah Himself Has Become King'
https://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/in...hovah-himself-has-become-king.2050/post-48790
I’ve posted links to Brother Robert King’s comments because it contains a quick 5 minute video that helps set the stage for this chapter.
Here is a link to the full chapter for reading and for audio: https://jehovah-is-king.com/gentile-times/
When I read this 2nd chapter in Robert’s book, I thought it interesting that Luke 21:24 is the only reference to the phrase “the appointed times of the nations” which is synonymous with “the Gentile times”. This period of time is mentioned right after Jesus gives the instructions to leave/flee the midst of Jerusalem once they see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies. After saying that the remaining residents would fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations it says the trampling of Jerusalem would occur until the “appointed times of the nations are fulfilled”.
Luke 21:20-24: “However, when you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. Then let those in Ju·deʹa begin fleeing to the mountains, let those in the midst of her leave, and let those in the countryside not enter into her, because these are days for meting out justice in order that all the things written may be fulfilled. Woe to the pregnant women and those nursing a baby in those days! For there will be great distress on the land and wrath against this people. And they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled”.
Robert King also states “the Gentile times is understood to be an interval when the rule of God’s kingdom is suppressed by the nations and the expiration of that period of Gentile domination is understood to mean the end of the allotted time for the nations to rule the earth”. The way I am understanding this is that during the Great Tribulation, the 7,000 anointed are sealed and after the Great Tribulation they begin prophesying, which is also the beginning of Kingdom rulership. But at the same time, the 8th King of Revelation, being the head that revives from being fatally wounded, is the human rulership that is suppressing God’s Kingdom for the 1,260 days, also described as 42 months. As Robert King has commented on the forum, God’s Kingdom will be ruling simultaneously for a period with the 8th King.
These are some scriptures that harmonize with that understanding.
Psalms 2:1-6: “Why are the nations agitated And the peoples muttering an empty thing? The kings of the earth take their stand And high officials gather together as one Against Jehovah and against his anointed one. They say: “Let us tear off their shackles And throw off their ropes!” The One enthroned in the heavens will laugh; Jehovah will scoff at them. At that time he will speak to them in his anger And terrify them in his burning anger, Saying: “I myself have installed my king On Zion, my holy mountain”.
Revelation 13:5-7: “It was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and it was given authority to act for 42 months. And it opened its mouth in blasphemies against God to blaspheme his name and his dwelling place, even those residing in heaven. It was permitted to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation”.
So, in the first century Jerusalem was the literal city but in the future application of this trampling, Jerusalem must symbolize the chosen ones (sealed anointed ones). Even though the trampling lasts 42 months so does their prophesying. In summary, it appears to me that the “Gentile Times” are in fact the 42 months also described as 1,260 days. Another important point is the revived beast the 8th King is a one world government and possibly a strengthened United Nations.
https://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/in...hovah-himself-has-become-king.2050/post-48790
I’ve posted links to Brother Robert King’s comments because it contains a quick 5 minute video that helps set the stage for this chapter.
Here is a link to the full chapter for reading and for audio: https://jehovah-is-king.com/gentile-times/
When I read this 2nd chapter in Robert’s book, I thought it interesting that Luke 21:24 is the only reference to the phrase “the appointed times of the nations” which is synonymous with “the Gentile times”. This period of time is mentioned right after Jesus gives the instructions to leave/flee the midst of Jerusalem once they see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies. After saying that the remaining residents would fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations it says the trampling of Jerusalem would occur until the “appointed times of the nations are fulfilled”.
Luke 21:20-24: “However, when you see Jerusalem surrounded by encamped armies, then know that the desolating of her has drawn near. Then let those in Ju·deʹa begin fleeing to the mountains, let those in the midst of her leave, and let those in the countryside not enter into her, because these are days for meting out justice in order that all the things written may be fulfilled. Woe to the pregnant women and those nursing a baby in those days! For there will be great distress on the land and wrath against this people. And they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled”.
Robert King also states “the Gentile times is understood to be an interval when the rule of God’s kingdom is suppressed by the nations and the expiration of that period of Gentile domination is understood to mean the end of the allotted time for the nations to rule the earth”. The way I am understanding this is that during the Great Tribulation, the 7,000 anointed are sealed and after the Great Tribulation they begin prophesying, which is also the beginning of Kingdom rulership. But at the same time, the 8th King of Revelation, being the head that revives from being fatally wounded, is the human rulership that is suppressing God’s Kingdom for the 1,260 days, also described as 42 months. As Robert King has commented on the forum, God’s Kingdom will be ruling simultaneously for a period with the 8th King.
These are some scriptures that harmonize with that understanding.
Psalms 2:1-6: “Why are the nations agitated And the peoples muttering an empty thing? The kings of the earth take their stand And high officials gather together as one Against Jehovah and against his anointed one. They say: “Let us tear off their shackles And throw off their ropes!” The One enthroned in the heavens will laugh; Jehovah will scoff at them. At that time he will speak to them in his anger And terrify them in his burning anger, Saying: “I myself have installed my king On Zion, my holy mountain”.
Revelation 13:5-7: “It was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and it was given authority to act for 42 months. And it opened its mouth in blasphemies against God to blaspheme his name and his dwelling place, even those residing in heaven. It was permitted to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation”.
So, in the first century Jerusalem was the literal city but in the future application of this trampling, Jerusalem must symbolize the chosen ones (sealed anointed ones). Even though the trampling lasts 42 months so does their prophesying. In summary, it appears to me that the “Gentile Times” are in fact the 42 months also described as 1,260 days. Another important point is the revived beast the 8th King is a one world government and possibly a strengthened United Nations.
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